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Tank Switching Mechanics

Postby agamemnoch » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:22 am

Would it make sense to use Hand of Salvation along with RD on a tank switch like Nalorrak?

Not using full "macro" language but something like:

target the target of your target
/cast RD
/cast HoS
/target mob
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Postby Worldie » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:23 am

Considering you inherit the other tank's threat i don't think it would be useful tbh.
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Postby agamemnoch » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:51 am

how would I inherit it in that case and why would it not be useful?

If I cast RD first the other tank can go full out (I usually go with a bear tank) and gain back threat for when he has to taunt off of me and not worry about any over aggro issues. Plus, if we are close to each other on threat, and the taunt fails, he still has the chance of eliminating the wipe.
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Postby Lemondish » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:51 am

Worldie wrote:Considering you inherit the other tank's threat i don't think it would be useful tbh.


Well at least that confirms taunts won't be changed in any way, or at least aren't at the moment. I didn't expect them to be, but it might have been interesting.

I don't think we'll see the proper strengths (or weaknesses) inherent with hand of salvation until beta has a proper threat meter to better record the data.
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Postby Snake-Aes » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:57 am

For "tank tauntswitch" interactions like Nalorakk or Brut, HoS is completely useless... There's no need to drop the other tank's threat, given you inherit it and the other tank will also produce less threat(or at least should. Kitty / rageless / no HS).

For saving Dpsers...I don't know. Last thing I want is to use HoS as an oh shit aggro dump, it's much better used preemptively on that moonkin that managed to crit 15 times in a row during bloodlust*, or on that lock that is aoeing a tad too hard.

*spoken from experience on RoS p3
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Postby dmok » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:57 am

Agamemnoch wrote:how would I inherit it in that case and why would it not be useful?

If I cast RD first the other tank can go full out (I usually go with a bear tank) and gain back threat for when he has to taunt off of me and not worry about any over aggro issues. Plus, if we are close to each other on threat, and the taunt fails, he still has the chance of eliminating the wipe.

Your aggro will match that of the target you taunt, plus making the target target you. This means the OT has to do 110% of your threat (previously his) to pull aggro off you. But of course you're also going full-out in threat so it doesn't really matter. HoS would be useful for the case where it resists, you are 2nd on the threat list, and your BoP is on CD. But not macros together
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Postby agamemnoch » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:01 am

dmok wrote:
Agamemnoch wrote:how would I inherit it in that case and why would it not be useful?

If I cast RD first the other tank can go full out (I usually go with a bear tank) and gain back threat for when he has to taunt off of me and not worry about any over aggro issues. Plus, if we are close to each other on threat, and the taunt fails, he still has the chance of eliminating the wipe.

Your aggro will match that of the target you taunt, plus making the target target you. This means the OT has to do 110% of your threat (previously his) to pull aggro off you. But of course you're also going full-out in threat so it doesn't really matter. HoS would be useful for the case where it resists, you are 2nd on the threat list, and your BoP is on CD. But not macros together


OK. I thought that he was stating I would inherit the gimped threat of the HoS, even though it was placed later in the cast sequence.
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