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Soloing Old-world bosses...

Postby Gimorth » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:39 pm

Many people heard of the changes to crusing blow mechanics and made the assumption that it would then become impossible for a tank to solo old-world bosses like some are able to do today. Now that beta notes are making their way out there, I haven't been able to identify a change in game mechanics that would affect this change.

It seems that crushing blows will no longer be on a boss's combat table. It also appears that strength will give BV at a faster rate. Is there some change that I am missing that makes a paladin who is unhittable today hittable in WotLK?
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Postby Argali » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:45 pm

Wouldn't the removal of crushing blows make it easier to tank old world bosses?
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Postby Snake-Aes » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:46 pm

Argali wrote:Wouldn't the removal of crushing blows make it easier to tank old world bosses?
The whole idea for old world bosses is to not take damage _at all_. passive uncrush so nothing lands.
So yeah, nothing changed.
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Postby Gimorth » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:49 pm

Argali wrote:Wouldn't the removal of crushing blows make it easier to tank old world bosses?


Right. That's what I am saying. From what I am reading, it seems like easier to acquire BV and the removal of crushing blows makes it the same to easier to solo melee-only bosses. I just know that the inital reaction to WotLK, however, was that "if you don't get your bindings now, you're not going to get them."
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Postby Argali » Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:30 pm

Well, somebody probably misunderstood something or you misread something, I guess.
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Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:35 pm

I believe the reason this comes up is that some people believe the removal of crushing blows will be accompanied by a reduction in the amount of avoidance for tanks in WotLK--meaning passive uncrush might not be possible to achieve.
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Postby Spectrum » Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:56 pm

We can always stack block rating! I bet there will still be enough gear to get passive uncrushable if you are doing high-tier content.
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Postby Argali » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:01 pm

You could stay at 70 forever! ROFL!
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Postby Constantine » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:55 pm

This is pure speculation, BUT: If they remove crushing blows from the standard attack table, they will need to be replaced with something... right?

What if they replaced all those crushes with Crits?

(Or am I lacking some kind of basic understanding of what's happening here?)
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Postby Worldie » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:00 pm

They are not been removed, just only mobs 4 levels higher can crush. Thus bosses can't crush anymore.
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Postby Jaydin » Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:06 pm

radioactivejack wrote:This is pure speculation, BUT: If they remove crushing blows from the standard attack table, they will need to be replaced with something... right?

What if they replaced all those crushes with Crits?

(Or am I lacking some kind of basic understanding of what's happening here?)


crushes just show up when a mob is "x" levels higher than you, if x is greater than or equal to 3 (presently) or 4 (come wrath). if a mob can't crush, its simply a normal hit
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Postby Elsie » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:21 pm

Block value wont even be as important with the changes to Seal of Light healing AP *0.18 + Sp Dmg *0.18.
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Postby Zeels » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:46 am

It's a bit boring imo without the crushes. Took some skill and effort at least to keep that holy shield up 100%. Now you don't even have to bother.
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Postby Snake-Aes » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:37 am

Zeels wrote:It's a bit boring imo without the crushes. Took some skill and effort at least to keep that holy shield up 100%. Now you don't even have to bother.
What skill does it takes to spam a button when it's 1~ second away from the cd's end?
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Postby Arjuna » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:43 am

Snake-Aes wrote:
Zeels wrote:It's a bit boring imo without the crushes. Took some skill and effort at least to keep that holy shield up 100%. Now you don't even have to bother.
What skill does it takes to spam a button when it's 1~ second away from the cd's end?


atleast it was an effort to become uncrushable from the start...

Now we can just go into raids the moment we ding 80...
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