Holy Shield buffed to 10 charges?

[Teyrocar]

I don't know if anyone noticed, but on the WotLK beta talents Blizzard just recently put up on their own site...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/cla ... ents2.html

...Holy Shield is apparently now 6 charges standard + 4 from the Improvement talent for a total of 10.

[Worldie]

Correct, they buffed it to 6 baseline charges.

I'm thinking of skipping imp HS

[moduspwnens]

Correct, they buffed it to 6 baseline charges.

I'm thinking of skipping imp HS

Yep

[Elvidnir]

I can see Imp HS being useful in high-aoe situations, but I would agree that with the baseline buffed I wouldn't take more than 1 point max due to prot tree bloat.

[moduspwnens]

I can see Imp HS being useful in high-aoe situations, but I would agree that with the baseline buffed I wouldn't take more than 1 point max due to prot tree bloat.

With all the threat buffs we're getting with new spells and such, I think taking Imp HS would be pretty much silly. Even in AoE situations, the charges are eaten so quickly and randomly that they can't be counted on. IMO, talent of the past.

[Strom]

Whoa! Did you guys see Redoubt?

50% chance to increase block by 6% for 10 sec when hit by melee or ranged atteck.....

[Dorvan]

Whoa! Did you guys see Redoubt?

50% chance to increase block by 6% for 10 sec when hit by melee or ranged atteck.....

huh? You've got your scaling backwards...it's still 10% chance to increase block chance by 6/12/18/24/30%

*not* 10/20/30/40/50% chance to increase block by 6%

[Andryana]

Whoa! Did you guys see Redoubt?

50% chance to increase block by 6% for 10 sec when hit by melee or ranged atteck.....

I still see it as a 10% chance with 5 points on it.

[Strom]

Whoa! Did you guys see Redoubt?

50% chance to increase block by 6% for 10 sec when hit by melee or ranged atteck.....

huh? You've got your scaling backwards...it's still 10% chance to increase block chance by 6/12/18/24/30%

*not* 10/20/30/40/50% chance to increase block by 6%

LOL that my friend was wishful thinking getting the better of me

[moduspwnens]

You guys are all silly. Redoubt is one of my favorite talents, and I hope avoidance makes for its continued use in WotLK.

[PsiVen]

You like redoubt but not imp hs... wtf you're ALL nuts

[Jonlo]

You like redoubt but not imp hs... wtf you're ALL nuts

I like Redoubt cause it's needed for Shield Spec. Other than that it's meh.

[ulushnar]

You like redoubt but not imp hs... wtf you're ALL nuts

Agreed.

It's not the extra charges I'm interested in, it's the boost in damage from Improved HS I'm interested in.

[moduspwnens]

You like redoubt but not imp hs... wtf you're ALL nuts

Imp HS is not useful in MT situations now, since we already have six charges. It was never that useful in AoE situations, and it's a very small portion of our threat as it is. You all must admit that if 70% passive avoidance can't be reached, it will be an excellent talent.

... and Dorvan and I have argued that based on current info, it looks like that will be the case, so I'm a fan.

It's also retardedly OP in AoE situations.

[PsiVen]

You mean 70% for uncrushable? I don't see that being impossible. If the ratings equivalence is 2:1 at 80 I will still be able to reach it with my current gear, possibly without even regemming.

Impractical, maybe for Naxx. But even if they flatten all avoidance scaling we could gem for it in the gear they give us.