Badass (?) BoE Blues in Wrath!

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Badass (?) BoE Blues in Wrath!

Postby Tycho » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:32 am

Some more item information has been released! (MMO-Champion.com)

Blade-Binding Bulwark (Req 76)
6011 Armor
43 Sta
19 Str
27 Block Rating
21 Def Rating

Earthbound Cape (Req 72)
107 Armor
31 Sta
21 Str
22 Dodge Rating
18 Def Rating

Greathelm of the Unyielding Bull (Req 75)
1414 Armor
75 Sta
32 Str
46 Def Rating
36 Parry Rating

Grips of the Valiant Champion (Req 72)
997 Armor
31 Str
48 Sta
21 Dodge Rating
24 Parry Rating

Tooga's Lost Toenail (Req 70)
280 Armor
28 Sta
19 Str
19 Def Rating

Worgen's Ring of Revitalization (Req 72)
126 Armor
31 Sta
24 Resil Rating
21 Dodge Rating

Items like these (boe leveling tanking blues ftw) along with Blizz's apparent commitment to improving Blacksmithing's value to tanks is really cool. :-)
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Postby Dorvan » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:03 am

Interesting note....that shield has slightly more armor than Kaz'rogal's Hardened Heart, which gives us a decent bead on how the ilevels shake out (though in this case KHH wins out due to the socket it looks like). That's level 76 blues on par with i141 epics, a bit more aggressive of a reset than I was expecting.

It's still just one item comparison though, I'll be interested to see more.
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Postby moduspwnens » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:35 am

That works for me. If level 76 blues (probably about on par with greens and blues at the end of long quest chains at 80) are on par with what I'm wearing now, I can easily get by on my current gear to level 80 instances, assuming the mechanics changes aren't a massive shake-up.
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Postby Mavrix » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:20 pm

Keep in mind these are BOE blue items that are being linked. Most likely (following current trends) they will drop more commonly from content that is higher level than their lvl req. What we need to see are dungeon rewards, esp. from the higher level content.
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Postby Invisusira » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:26 pm

Looks to be in line with itemization level of WoW -> BC: not-quite endgame epics = 75 (or 65 in BC) blues.
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Re: yeah

Postby Dorvan » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:27 pm

Mavrix wrote:Keep in mind these are BOE blue items that are being linked. Most likely (following current trends) they will drop more commonly from content that is higher level than their lvl req. What we need to see are dungeon rewards, esp. from the higher level content.


For comparison, the following TBC items are req level 66 blues:

Normal Durnholde drops
Terrokar Spirit Shard helms
Nagrand/BEM/SMV/Netherstorm rare elite drops
some Nagrand blue quest rewards
Blass Morass quest reward
Halaa PvP rewards
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Postby Chevalier » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:35 pm

BC vs. pre-bc epic shield

Shield of the Wayward Footman comes to mind as a lvl 65 boe blue
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31200
Looks like it drops off guys around the same lvl.

compared to
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21269#comments
and
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19349

Roughly on par.
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Postby Chevalier » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:37 pm

Also, it appears that all tanking gear will have str.
I haven't seen any tanking gear with spellpower yet...
Divine Strength will need a hard look at 80 for sure.
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Postby Dorvan » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:40 pm

Chevalier wrote:Also, it appears that all tanking gear will have str.
I haven't seen any tanking gear with spellpower yet...
Divine Strength will need a hard look at 80 for sure.


I wouldn't expect to see any tanking gear with spellpower anymore. We won't really know how much Str is a part of tanking itemization until we see 80 blues....leveling tanking drops are generally tank/DPS hybrid pieces (at least that was the case in TBC).
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Postby Lore » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:51 pm

Well with the 2 str = 1 sbv change, plus DK's wanting str for obvious reasons, it seems likely anyway.
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Postby Andox » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:02 pm

Pretty nice stats on it.
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Postby Worldie » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:14 pm

Exactly like i guessed T6+ will last us until 70
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Postby StopPokingMe » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:24 pm

Lore wrote:Well with the 2 str = 1 sbv change, plus DK's wanting str for obvious reasons, it seems likely anyway.



Strength has value now!!!!! wow, that means all the tanking gear i wear now will be replaced rather quickly. If the mechanics change, everything I'm wearing is completely obsolete...... I like the added block value but....... That means I'll be gimped right away. Well maybe I should take a break until WotLK comes out, almost no point in grabbing the gear.


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Postby Dorvan » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:51 pm

StopPokingMe wrote:Strength has value now!!!!! wow, that means all the tanking gear i wear now will be replaced rather quickly. If the mechanics change, everything I'm wearing is completely obsolete...... I like the added block value but....... That means I'll be gimped right away. Well maybe I should take a break until WotLK comes out, almost no point in grabbing the gear.


It's like I'm chasing the dragon.


The fact the Str has value doesn't mean the +dam doesn't have value. I expect Tankadins with 70 raid gear to be pretty overpowered threat-wise leveling 70 -> 80.
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Postby Lieris » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:20 pm

Blizzard said the gear reset would not be as dramatic as it was in TBC but we can see that's clearly false now :/ Looks like there will be dungeon blues that are better than the Illidan and Sunwell shields.
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