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Consecration Mana Cost to Dmg... WOTLK

Postby Widdox2 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:57 am

Rank 1 -- 120 mana -- 64 dmg -- .53 dmg per mana
Rank 2 -- 205 mana -- 120 dmg -- .58 dmg per mana
Rank 3 -- 290 mana -- 191 dmg -- .65 dmg per mana
Rank 4 -- 390 mana -- 280 dmg -- .71 dmg per mana
Rank 5 -- 505 mana -- 384 dmg -- .76 dmg per mana
Rank 6 -- 660 mana -- 512 dmg -- .775 dmg per mana
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Rank 7 -- 1250 mana -- 576 dmg -- .46 dmg per mana
Rank 8 -- 1475 mana -- 672 dmg -- .45 dmg per mana

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My theory is that the only reason for a drastic mana to dmg dropoff is if they add something like a heal component to the spell. If not they are nerfing consecration HARD.
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Postby moduspwnens » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:02 am

They could be buffing the coefficient. Interesting info, though.
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Postby Arcand » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:15 am

How much is our incoming damage increasing, though. If we're taking twice as much damage by the time we get rank 8 consecration, it'll be just as sustainable as the current one.
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Postby Candiru » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:15 am

all of the paladin spells in WOTLK cost stupidly more than they should do, I hope its just placeholder values. Otherwise no-one will use ranks above the level 70 ones.
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Postby Joanadark » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:18 am

They could be buffing the coefficient. Interesting info, though.


it's already a pretty massive coefficient...
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Postby Widdox2 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:19 am

Im thinking they have to be place holders or adding a heal, cause of all the info we've received about the reworking of the class.
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Postby QuantumDelta » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:22 am

They will be nerfing the coeffs on the older spells :p
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Postby Arcand » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:25 am

Maybe they're anticipating our new tank gear with tons of intellect on it.

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Postby Angella » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:35 am

Arcand wrote:Maybe they're anticipating our new tank gear with tons of intellect on it.


This.
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Postby ulushnar » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:46 am

A Parable for this, and other alpha posts:

THE BLIND MEN AND THE ELEPHANT by John Godfrey Saxe

It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.

The First approach'd the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
"God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!"

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, -"Ho! what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me 'tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!"

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a snake!"

The Fourth reached out his eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
"What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain," quoth he,
"'Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!"

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!"

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Then, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a rope!"

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

MORAL.

So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!
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Postby Dorvan » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:12 am

Arcand wrote:How much is our incoming damage increasing, though. If we're taking twice as much damage by the time we get rank 8 consecration, it'll be just as sustainable as the current one.


ding ding!

Out mana regen scales directly with the amount of damage we're taking.
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Postby Fridmarr » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:23 am

Ulushnar wrote:A Parable for this, and other alpha posts:


Good grief. We get it already, some of you don't care to partake in posts discussing the alpha.

Here's the thing, a lot of us do. I find it fun to speculate, discuss, theorycraft, and just plain old guess at what the limited information we do have could mean. There could be significant changes made right up until release, but folks are indeed going to be discussing information as it becomes available, you may want to start accepting that.

Instead of continuing to find more creative ways to rain on the parade, simply understand that your objections to these threads were noted long ago, but we still enjoy the discussion so they are unlikely to stop.
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Postby Fridmarr » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:24 am

Dorvan wrote:
Arcand wrote:How much is our incoming damage increasing, though. If we're taking twice as much damage by the time we get rank 8 consecration, it'll be just as sustainable as the current one.


ding ding!

Out mana regen scales directly with the amount of damage we're taking.


Yeah but it's a class skill not a prot talent, so cutting the mana efficiency nearly in half has other ramifications.
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Postby Teyrocar » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:52 am

Ulushnar wrote:A Parable for this, and other alpha posts:

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Postby Dorvan » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:31 am

Fridmarr wrote:Yeah but it's a class skill not a prot talent, so cutting the mana efficiency nearly in half has other ramifications.


Well, I assumed we were discussing it in regards to Paladin tanking, since that's the focus of these forums :P

Basically, it won't make any difference for Prot pallies most likely, and it means Cons is likely to get taken out of the single target rotation for Ret Pallies...though speculating on anything having to do with Ret Pallies is fraught with inaccuracy since they need some kind of change to their mana model and no one knows what that might be.
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