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Libram choice in Sunwell

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Libram choice in Sunwell

Postby Janduin » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:40 am

I have both Mother's libram and the Libram of Repentence. From this forum I'm told Mother's libram is the way to go for Brutallus. What about Kalecgos? I have been using Repentence as Kalec doesn't hit nearly as fast as Brut so Redoubt is not going to be up nearly as much. I was going to decide the issue by multiplying my non-libram block rate with holy shield and my base BV + (5/8)*proc BV and comparing it with (block rate with holy shield + 5.33%)*base BV, but I thought I'd ask if there was a compelling argument I hadn't thought of to use one or the other.
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Postby Worldie » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:01 am

Since you don't need uncrushabilty for kalec, shahraz libram looks like better still.
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Postby Ryu » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:38 am

I use the DP libram on trash (except Twins trash, where I aoe tank everything, thus using the corresponding libram), Sharazz one on every boss except Twins, where I use the Repentance one, and the aoe one on M'uru again.
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Postby Katamai » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 am

In most cases i just use DP libram as dmg intake is rarely an issue while threat is.

Though i switch librams mid fight quite often (for example, at Kalec enrage).
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Postby Janduin » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:44 am

I've never found threat much of an issue on Kalecgos. You can Exorcise the demon and people need to go slow on the dragon anyway. Thanks for the libram input, assuming I find time to do the calculation, does the formula I wrote above seem reasonable?
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Postby Elsie » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:04 pm

I use DP on Savrotharr/Brutallus, Block rating on sacrolash, and BV on kalecgos/muru.

Block value would be nice on brutallus if I didn't have crazy dpsers.
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Postby Ryu » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:21 pm

Hmm even with crazy dps-ers, your threat should be skyrockety high on Brut :)
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Postby Katamai » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:00 pm

Ryu wrote:Hmm even with crazy dps-ers, your threat should be skyrockety high on Brut :)


Not really since we need to use avoidance gear thus lose on spell dmg :/
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Postby Elsie » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:00 pm

Hmm even with crazy dps-ers, your threat should be skyrockety high on Brut

Yeah, last brut I averaged 1300-1800 without wings, and 2200-2400 with wings. More threat is always nice though on that fight.
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Postby Katamai » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:29 pm

Elsie wrote:
Hmm even with crazy dps-ers, your threat should be skyrockety high on Brut

Yeah, last brut I averaged 1300-1800 without wings, and 2200-2400 with wings. More threat is always nice though on that fight.


O_O

Erm... either my Omen fails or something is very wrong... i'm lucky if i get 1-1.2K without wings in Brut avoidance gear :/
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Postby Tisiphone » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:42 pm

Katamai wrote:
Elsie wrote:
Hmm even with crazy dps-ers, your threat should be skyrockety high on Brut

Yeah, last brut I averaged 1300-1800 without wings, and 2200-2400 with wings. More threat is always nice though on that fight.


O_O

Erm... either my Omen fails or something is very wrong... i'm lucky if i get 1-1.2K without wings in Brut avoidance gear :/

I did 1.3k on Dragon @ Kalecgos with wings. I've only tried Brut for 2 tries so haven't really checked the threat there. Does Omen still not pick up RD?
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Postby Vandril » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:21 am

Omen is fine and picks up your RD :)

Threat never was a problem for me, I dont check my omen very often (expcept for the Twins), and near the end of the fight the warrior MT and me got a huge threatlead. DPS is fine for us, Brutallus dies somewhere near the Enrage.

I dont switch much of my normal bossgear for Brutallus. T6 gloves out, Gorefiend gloves in, Kael'thas neck out, Brutallus Neck in, Hydross-Trinket out, Moroes in (1 single drop of SMI in about 8 Months of BB-Kills :S )

Avoidance is nice to have to survive bad Stomp+MH+OH hits, so I stick to my gear.

EDIT: ok its the thread about librams, nvm i usually go with Mother-Libram, for the twins i use good old HS-Libram :roll:
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Postby Ankh » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:39 am

Katamai wrote:
Ryu wrote:Hmm even with crazy dps-ers, your threat should be skyrockety high on Brut :)


Not really since we need to use avoidance gear thus lose on spell dmg :/

Do you just not have the gear or something? Last i checked you can get the gear you need without losing spelldmg.
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Postby Katamai » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:51 am

Ankh wrote:Do you just not have the gear or something? Last i checked you can get the gear you need without losing spelldmg.


Well considering i lose 126 spell dmg from my usual gear (praetorians, BFG and faceplate of the impenetrable), yes, it is an issue at times.

I just wish we finally get plate legs from Kalec and tokens other than protectors... Protector T6 boots/wrists/waists are going for min DKP to offspecs while other token main specs are at each other's throat for vanquisher/conqueror tokens -.-
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Postby Lieris » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:18 pm

Katamai wrote:In most cases i just use DP libram as dmg intake is rarely an issue while threat is.

Though i switch librams mid fight quite often (for example, at Kalec enrage).


I do this too.
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