Kil'jaeden
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Katamai wrote:Well it's not that we suck, it's just that we're the worst of the 3 classes for most situations when not tanking. And at least knowing my GM i'd probably be told to spec holy while him, another prot war and feral will do the tanking.
Guess i'll chose to sit out on my guild's first when we get there -.-
(Don't mind me, i'm just emo cause we did MH today even though we don't do it and again, no Tempest. Only 3 times it dropped i had to pass for "main" classes <_<)
And at the same time your GM asked you to stay out for Brutallus because of taunt resists even though he doesn't resist them and we're pretty much the best tanks there?
Not that I'm saying paladins are perfectly fine but if all the latest first kills had a tankadin in the squad, how the hell can we not be viable?
Like they say, bind all buttons to FoL and just roll your head over the keyboard.
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Tisiphone - Posts: 83
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Tisiphone wrote:And at the same time your GM asked you to stay out for Brutallus because of taunt resists even though he doesn't resist them and we're pretty much the best tanks there?
Not that I'm saying paladins are perfectly fine but if all the latest first kills had a tankadin in the squad, how the hell can we not be viable?
19:29'07.859 Tauftamir's Taunt resisted by Brutallus
19:38'10.875 Tauftamir's Taunt resisted by Brutallus
19:40'44.671 Killspree's Taunt resisted by Brutallus
He doesn't resist them eh? But then again, they're both warriors and have more than one taunt while on the other hand, if that was me, it would have been a wipe.
Situation is pretty similar to other issues we run into in different aspects of the game.
EDIT: Gratz on KJ kill Ossuary! Did you attend the kill? Didn't see you in the screenshot :<
I... was... once... called... Ashbringer...
My... son... watched... me... die...
KILL... THEM... ALL!
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Katamai - Posts: 842
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Katamai wrote:He doesn't resist them eh? But then again, they're both warriors and have more than one taunt while on the other hand, if that was me, it would have been a wipe.
Situation is pretty similar to other issues we run into in different aspects of the game.
Brutallus has a 1% chance to resist taunt, and this is widely considered to be a bug. Unless you're extremely lucky with timing, warrior and druid taunt resists cause wipes as well. Also, this is fairly offtopic, there must be a better place to post random emo QQing.
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it would seem like a prot pally would be ideal for those sinister reflections though? I mean technically you dont even need a prot warrior in that fight i think, so you just put the prot pally in that spot and i'd think dps on reflections would be able to start considerably quicker, which means faster dps on kj, which is all the better for getting to the next phase. And assuming you have dps warrs in there for warr stuff, a prot pally could do the job of keeping up crusader if no ret is around.
I dunno, i am going to end up trying it tomorrow though when im able to get back on. The main issue im seeing is being able to identify where the goddamn reflections are and get them before they own someone's face
I dunno, i am going to end up trying it tomorrow though when im able to get back on. The main issue im seeing is being able to identify where the goddamn reflections are and get them before they own someone's face
- rozakk
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rozakk wrote:I dunno, i am going to end up trying it tomorrow though when im able to get back on. The main issue im seeing is being able to identify where the goddamn reflections are and get them before they own someone's face
Let us know how you do
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Rorshach wrote:rozakk wrote:I dunno, i am going to end up trying it tomorrow though when im able to get back on. The main issue im seeing is being able to identify where the goddamn reflections are and get them before they own someone's face
Let us know how you do
That is my job on the fight. It is very doable, but takes a little practice and a little luck.
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Is this seriously the prot pally gear that took down Kil'Jaeden on Method's world second kill?
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... and%C3%ADl
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Well as far prot paladins on KJ... i know Inner Sanctum's prot paladin was nothing more than a JoW bot after his mob was dead... /cry
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Katamai - Posts: 842
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The question is, would that mob have been harder if it was tanked by another tank?
Cause if so, there's nothing wrong in being JoW bot after it's dead. After all, flame tanks on illidan are just debuff bots after the flames are dead, but noone ever said that tanking the flames is stupid.
Cause if so, there's nothing wrong in being JoW bot after it's dead. After all, flame tanks on illidan are just debuff bots after the flames are dead, but noone ever said that tanking the flames is stupid.
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Worldie wrote:The question is, would that mob have been harder if it was tanked by another tank?
Picking them up fast is kind of a necessity and the threat is nice.
So yeah, I think paladins are better on the images.
Like they say, bind all buttons to FoL and just roll your head over the keyboard.
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Tisiphone - Posts: 83
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ok so i had no problem picking them up, they stand around a second and avenger's shield quickly gets a few and i can usually taunt the last.
But honestly due to various fight mechanics there's no reason a prot warr cant tank them all, depending on how u do the fight, and i definitely took more dmg from the warlocks and mages than our prot warr did. I've seen several vids where a prot warr tanked them all reliably, and ours had no problem holding all 4 as well, as long as the dps werent being stupid. The rogue and warrior ones hit hard, but with enough mitigaion its definitely healable barring the unlucky shadowspike on your face.
I still think that either a prot warr or pally could do the job equally well, depending on what your plan is with handling the adds, which emphasizes my belief that in a fight tuned this tight you definitely wouldnt want to have both in there, sucking up a potential dps or healer slot. I'd argue a prot paladins actually better for this fight due to ability to keep up judgments, etc but since our MT has no intentions on sitting this one out i'll prolly be on the sidelines =p
But honestly due to various fight mechanics there's no reason a prot warr cant tank them all, depending on how u do the fight, and i definitely took more dmg from the warlocks and mages than our prot warr did. I've seen several vids where a prot warr tanked them all reliably, and ours had no problem holding all 4 as well, as long as the dps werent being stupid. The rogue and warrior ones hit hard, but with enough mitigaion its definitely healable barring the unlucky shadowspike on your face.
I still think that either a prot warr or pally could do the job equally well, depending on what your plan is with handling the adds, which emphasizes my belief that in a fight tuned this tight you definitely wouldnt want to have both in there, sucking up a potential dps or healer slot. I'd argue a prot paladins actually better for this fight due to ability to keep up judgments, etc but since our MT has no intentions on sitting this one out i'll prolly be on the sidelines =p
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So far we have tried it with myself tanking all 4 reflections and then me picking them up and a feral druid peeling off of me for single targeting. With me picking up all 4 there is definite spiking especially depending on what the reflections are. It is completely doable solo by a prot paladin tho. Inversely it is doable by any tanking class in game atm, at least imo. To be completely honest I think a prot paladin is perfect for the job depending on the strat you are trying to execute.
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