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Postby Kasavier » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:30 am

majorwoo wrote:well, congrats on your first kara tanking :)
It won't be long now, and you'll be standing in front of princes ankles wondering what the rest of him looks like! :)


Ankles? Lucky you, seems like most of the time, I'm staring right into his crotch...

/cry
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Postby Targonis » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:36 am

Kasavier wrote:
majorwoo wrote:well, congrats on your first kara tanking :)
It won't be long now, and you'll be standing in front of princes ankles wondering what the rest of him looks like! :)


Ankles? Lucky you, seems like most of the time, I'm staring right into his crotch...

/cry


He must be a dwarf... I'm in the same boat as you there Cap'n.
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Postby Tyaera » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:00 pm

Being a crotch tank has helped me discover where Magtheridon gets his 20 slot bag from.
better to tank in hell than DPS in heaven
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Postby majorwoo » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:01 pm

Nope, sorry I'm human. I always say staring at his ankles out of habit though, I'll have to watch this time and see what I'm actually looking at.
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Postby uke » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:39 am

Balanor wrote:
Arcand wrote:And I was kidding about Skyriss. It's probably working fine but I've probably killed it 15-20 between three different 70s and have seen zero Elementium Bands.


Nothing odd here. I had to run SV at least 25 times before I got the Devilshark Cape. I have run SH at least 30 times and no Figurine of the Colossus. I've run Arc about 10 times and the last time I was there, the ring drops. Its all luck...some good, some bad.


Dude, don't remind me! :(

Ran SV, SH, and Bot countless times, and still no cape, FotC, or D3 shoulders, fortunately I got the badge cape, but stuck with my crappy Warchief's Mantle :P .

I actually got the Maiden gloves to drop after about 2 months of running Kara. Finally got rid of my Felsteel gloves.

To the OP, sounds like you got a good grasp on things. If I can suggest a few easy, and I mean EASY, upgrades that'll take you far:

Shield: start grinding SSO dailies and get the exalted shield, it's equal to the Nightbane shield in usefulness, and just takes time doing dailies to get it.

Bracers/Belt: Find a blacksmith to craft Bracers of the Green Fortress and Belt of the Guardian. It'll cost you some gold, but it will get you very useful epics (esp. the belt) that'll last you a very long time.

Boots: there is a chain quest that ends in an escort quest in Mana Tombs that gives of quest reward of Flesh Beast Greaves, which are great tanking boots until you get Boots of Elusion to drop in Kara.

Weapon: Start grinding AFK Valley and EotS to get the S1 (soon to be S2) mace, you won't find a better upgrade until either h-Mgt or ZA.

Chest: I think you said you still had the D3 chest (IIRC). If you're Aldor, get revered (just buy a bunch of Marks of Sageras from AH), and get the Vindicator's Hauberk, much better upgrade.

The above upgrades are very quick and easy upgrades to get that don't require luck from boss drops or grinding badges, and can be had with minimal effort.

You're on your way so far, good luck.
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Postby Mishdorf » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:29 pm

uke wrote:
Balanor wrote:
Arcand wrote:And I was kidding about Skyriss. It's probably working fine but I've probably killed it 15-20 between three different 70s and have seen zero Elementium Bands.


Nothing odd here. I had to run SV at least 25 times before I got the Devilshark Cape. I have run SH at least 30 times and no Figurine of the Colossus. I've run Arc about 10 times and the last time I was there, the ring drops. Its all luck...some good, some bad.


Dude, don't remind me! :(

Ran SV, SH, and Bot countless times, and still no cape, FotC, or D3 shoulders, fortunately I got the badge cape, but stuck with my crappy Warchief's Mantle :P .

I actually got the Maiden gloves to drop after about 2 months of running Kara. Finally got rid of my Felsteel gloves.

To the OP, sounds like you got a good grasp on things. If I can suggest a few easy, and I mean EASY, upgrades that'll take you far:

Shield: start grinding SSO dailies and get the exalted shield, it's equal to the Nightbane shield in usefulness, and just takes time doing dailies to get it.

Bracers/Belt: Find a blacksmith to craft Bracers of the Green Fortress and Belt of the Guardian. It'll cost you some gold, but it will get you very useful epics (esp. the belt) that'll last you a very long time.

Boots: there is a chain quest that ends in an escort quest in Mana Tombs that gives of quest reward of Flesh Beast Greaves, which are great tanking boots until you get Boots of Elusion to drop in Kara.

Weapon: Start grinding AFK Valley and EotS to get the S1 (soon to be S2) mace, you won't find a better upgrade until either h-Mgt or ZA.

Chest: I think you said you still had the D3 chest (IIRC). If you're Aldor, get revered (just buy a bunch of Marks of Sageras from AH), and get the Vindicator's Hauberk, much better upgrade.

The above upgrades are very quick and easy upgrades to get that don't require luck from boss drops or grinding badges, and can be had with minimal effort.

You're on your way so far, good luck.


I fail to see the cudgel of consecration as an upgrade on the s1 mace. The s1 mace puts out nearly as much threat (the difference is minimal) has more uncritability and has very similar stam. It's more of a sidegrade, and to make it that you have to chuck a 15 stam gem into it (pricey for poor tanks).

I actually agree with what you are saying here. Particularly about the SSO shield. It is best to get both SSO shields IMO. Get the "pally" one for plugging uncrushability gaps, get the warrior one for avoidance/boss tanking/block rating. Both are useful in different situations.
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Postby uke » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:46 pm

Mishdorf wrote:I actually agree with what you are saying here. Particularly about the SSO shield. It is best to get both SSO shields IMO. Get the "pally" one for plugging uncrushability gaps, get the warrior one for avoidance/boss tanking/block rating. Both are useful in different situations.


heh, I got 3 of them: 2 'pally' ones and the warrior one. Put 18 STA on one pally one and the block rating enchant on the other, so I don't have to re-enchant back and forth based on my current needs (more stamina or more block rating), end up cheaper than re-enchanting as well. Haven't found a real use for the warrior one yet, though it's on hand if I need it. It's not like they're expensive.

And wouldn't you know it, only AFTER I got the SSO shields did Nightbane's shield finally drop. Now I got FOUR shields to swap out as needed :P . As I go on in Gruul's and ZA, I'll have an entire bank bag filled with shields at this rate 8)
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Postby Targonis » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:49 pm

Mishdorf wrote:Now I got FOUR shields to swap out as needed :P . As I go on in Gruul's and ZA, I'll have an entire bank bag filled with shields at this rate 8)


I know the feeling I have 6:

ZA Shield, Badge Shield, Nightbane Shield, 2 SSO Shields, and my Holy Badge Shield... I carry them all on me, especially for Hyjal.
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Postby Kelaan » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:02 pm

Mishdorf wrote:I fail to see the cudgel of consecration as an upgrade on the s1 mace. The s1 mace puts out nearly as much threat (the difference is minimal) has more uncritability and has very similar stam.


As the S2 is replacing S1 soon, it's almosta moot point ... but IMO the cudgel is a significant cosmetic upgrade. ;) The arena maces look like glowing lima beans on sticks...


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uke wrote:Chest: I think you said you still had the D3 chest (IIRC). If you're Aldor, get revered (just buy a bunch of Marks of Sageras from AH), and get the Vindicator's Hauberk, much better upgrade.

Beware: On some servers, the price of Aldor rep items (since dailies are now better money than farming used to be) has skyrocketed -- buying enough fel armaments for me to go from honored to revered would cost me nearly as much as crafting the Belt of the Guardian did.

I also advise, if you have healing gear or people willing to run you through it, try to get in on a Kara run or two as an offtank. You can often pick of 1-2 upgrades which make several of these grinds moot.
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Postby Mishdorf » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:06 am

You still should get Aldor revered for the shoulder enchant, just like... erm... everyone but me (QQ at my poorness).
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