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Should I tank Malchezaar with these stats?

Postby Baelor » Fri May 25, 2007 12:14 pm

My guild's main tank had a computer issue, and I've got tank gear having been gearing for both tanking and healing, so I stepped up and respecced for Karazhan this week. 0/49/12 build, here's my armory:
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#char ... m&n=Baelor

Cleared through Curator last night, going to get Aran and Malchezaar at least Monday night. I'm not sure how buffed up/geared out other tankadins have been when facing the legions that Malchezaar commands, though...

My stats:
11237 unbuffed HP
13225 armor before Devotion Aura
18.76% dodge
15.8% parry
22.21% block
495 defense (+5.8% miss)

Figurine of the Colossus and Dabiri's Enigma in the trinket slots. I hope to run a few Shadow Labs and grab an Adamantite Figurine to replace Dabiri's before I head to Karazhan Monday night. With an HP flask and some Ironshield potions, as well as a good group behind me, am I prepped for Malchezaar?

EDIT: If you click my armory, it shows no helm but the stats are correct. It's just not showing up in the slot... I'm wearing Tankatronic Goggles with 18 stam and 4 def/6 stam gems and the CoT rep enchant.
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Postby Dorvan » Fri May 25, 2007 12:18 pm

Personally, my take on it is that you should be able to get him down with that but you're a bit undergeared compared to what I'd like to see on stamina, armor, and dodge.
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Postby Lore » Fri May 25, 2007 12:36 pm

You should be good, I believe I tanked him for the first time with similar stats, maybe a bit more armor but the ironshields will make up for that. And yeah, any trinkets with a use effect for his phase 2 will help a lot. I love my pocket watch.
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Postby Baelor » Fri May 25, 2007 2:01 pm

Thanks for the input, Lore and Dorvan.

I wish I had a Pocket Watch, but we've only seen one drop and it went to my warrior friend. Is there anything you guys would recommend replacing one of my trinkets with (or gears) before I go into the fight? I'm hoping to replace Dabiri's with Adamantite Figurine, and possibly swapping either my Aldor revered breastplate or Jade-Skull in for my Righteous breastplate... I would lose stamina though, I think. All 3 have 150 HP on them, and the Righteous is currently socketed 8 dodge, 4 def/6 stam, 12 stam.

Anything else you guys can recommend swapping around while still staying uncrushable and high HP that I can possibly grab out of my bank or a 5 man?

(Don't have a lot of the quest rewards, either took the wrong piece or sold it thinking I wouldn't use it)
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Postby Fridmarr » Fri May 25, 2007 2:36 pm

I had similar stats the first time I tanked him, but I was also flasked with a pre 2.1 flask, and used ironshields between the 60-30. So to be honest I think your stam is borderline. However, you do gain over what I had because of imp HS and no instacast bug. It is doable, it should be a good challenge for you and your group. Good Luck!
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Postby Acro » Fri May 25, 2007 3:23 pm

Could i get to try tonight.

My stats:
11177 unbuffed HP
13891 armor before Devotion Aura
21.53% dodge
17.31% parry
19.21% block
500 defense (+6% miss)
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Postby Fridmarr » Fri May 25, 2007 3:37 pm

Acro wrote:Could i get to try tonight.

My stats:
11177 unbuffed HP
13891 armor before Devotion Aura
21.53% dodge
17.31% parry
19.21% block
500 defense (+6% miss)


yes, again, a little low on stam, but the rest of your stats are pretty good. You could even afford to trim back some dodge or parry if it got you more stam and you'd still be uncrushable.
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Postby Acro » Fri May 25, 2007 4:21 pm

if we down him i'll use the stam trinket with arcane resist over my ony one but til then there isnt really any extra stam gear i got.
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Postby Kathryn » Fri May 25, 2007 11:54 pm

Have a shaman in your group, have the Wrath of air totem down in Phase 1. Make it switch to Grace of Air (for dodge) for phase 2, that alone should pump your dodge by about 3%.

Drink an Agi pot, a def pot and Chug an ironshield in phase 2.

Don't miss your HS refresses, then decurse your self, then worry about threat and keeping aggro.

You should be fine.
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Postby Baelor » Mon May 28, 2007 10:13 pm

Malchezaar down, without even a major agility pot or the shaman totems in my group. I even forgot to chug ironshields until midway thru phase 2.

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Postby Everlight » Mon May 28, 2007 10:24 pm

Grats!

We're coming up to him ourselves, won't be long now... So I'd like to do a quick gearcheck too. I think I'll be fine, but it never hurts to check (all values are completely unbuffed and without an aura)

12865 armor
12537 health
11.84% miss
21.83% dodge
16.97% parry
16.53% block
~202 or so block value

Couple of queries though. Is it usual to save the Ironshields until phase 2, or just keep it up the whole time?

Typically I run with Elixir of Major Agility, Elixir of Major Defense, Ironshield Potions, Superior Wizard Oil, and Spicy Crawdads.
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Postby Baelor » Tue May 29, 2007 7:50 am

Everlight wrote:Grats!

We're coming up to him ourselves, won't be long now... So I'd like to do a quick gearcheck too. I think I'll be fine, but it never hurts to check (all values are completely unbuffed and without an aura)

12865 armor
12537 health
11.84% miss
21.83% dodge
16.97% parry
16.53% block
~202 or so block value

Couple of queries though. Is it usual to save the Ironshields until phase 2, or just keep it up the whole time?

Typically I run with Elixir of Major Agility, Elixir of Major Defense, Ironshield Potions, Superior Wizard Oil, and Spicy Crawdads.

I personally am a block fanatic, as evidenced by my high block % and my 395 block value raid buffed. Malchezaar being a speedy hitter as he is, I'd want to up the block % somewhat if possible as well as the block value, as you're not going to dodge all of it. However, having about 1500 more hp than me and a higher dodge %, you'll probably be fine as long as your healers are on the ball and the raid moves to compensate for infernals.
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Postby Fridmarr » Tue May 29, 2007 9:51 am

Everlight wrote:Grats!

We're coming up to him ourselves, won't be long now... So I'd like to do a quick gearcheck too. I think I'll be fine, but it never hurts to check (all values are completely unbuffed and without an aura)

12865 armor
12537 health
11.84% miss
21.83% dodge
16.97% parry
16.53% block
~202 or so block value

Couple of queries though. Is it usual to save the Ironshields until phase 2, or just keep it up the whole time?

Typically I run with Elixir of Major Agility, Elixir of Major Defense, Ironshield Potions, Superior Wizard Oil, and Spicy Crawdads.


Well if you have tons of pots you could use them the whole fight, but phase 2 is really where you are at most risk. It's not as bad now with 8 charges on Holy Shield, but still his DPS goes way up at that point.

EDIT: Oh and your gear is fine.
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Postby Baelor » Tue May 29, 2007 10:25 am

Oh yea, the Ironshield pots. Everlight, phase 1 is easy. Unless you're super-paranoid, it's a waste of potions to chug them before the 60% mark. It's when he pulls out the axes for phase 2 that you need to worry - chug an Ironshield, have the DPS pop cool downs, and make sure that the healers know that the healing needed will pick up from 60-30%. After 30%, healing on you decreases again and the Ironshields probably won't be needed, but raid healing will be necessary since the axes will be flying around and chopping at people.
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Postby Lore » Tue May 29, 2007 10:34 am

Yeah I generally chug stoneshields during phase 2, and just keep an eye on healer mana and pop another one during phase 3 if they need a bit more relief.
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