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Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:08 am
by Fetzie
Worldie wrote:
Teranoid wrote:
Flex wrote:It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.



Tell your dps to stop sucking, pick an add and kill it.

Random curiosity as I've not done garrosh hc myself, why is it bad to pick up the whirlwind adds? They were an essential nonfactor damagewise in 25 normal o.o


When you kill them, they buff every other add in melee range by about 50% damage, double their health pool and heal them for about 50% max life. If about 5 adds die next to each other, the last surviving add will be capable of one-shotting anybody, including a tank and have tens of millions of life.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:10 am
by Worldie
Ouch.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:04 pm
by Fetzie
Worldie wrote:Ouch.

It also happens on ten and 25 man normal, it's just that they have such little life to begin with that it hardly ever becomes an issue.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:44 pm
by Teranoid
Or the fact that in 25m you can just have an extra brewmaster kite them around the entire time.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:26 am
by Fetzie
Teranoid wrote:Or the fact that in 25m you can just have an extra brewmaster kite them around the entire time.


Meh, we killed them until we had enough dps to kill the boss without any spawning until P3.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:55 am
by Worldie
Battlenet broken for a hour already, and I'm here at work sitting and doing nothing when I was planning to level alts <.<

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:31 am
by Amirya
Worldie, the Battle.net Destroyer

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:10 pm
by Worldie
You thought I couldn't kill WOW but I'm working on it!

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:53 pm
by Amirya
I thought it was Nooska who doubted you!

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:28 pm
by Nooska
*puts on politician garb*
I never said such a thing...

*cough*

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:47 pm
by Worldie
2 hours later still nothing.

Ty bnet.eu for a whole evening in boredom, and tomorrow I'll be out whole day, I'll miss my drug =(


Fact: As soon as I clicked Submit, my bnet launcher managed to connect. QQing always works.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:10 pm
by Amirya
Post your bewilderment:

16 year old girl's skydiving accident

Wethington's father says his daughter should not have been allowed by the Oklahoma skydiving company to perform the jump, even though Makenzie's parents signed off on letting her do it.


What? Is it because the company may have not ensured she was properly trained? Or is it because the father was expecting the company to parent his daughter?

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:18 am
by Ironshield
My Frustration = getting over a cold and the absolute worst bit, not a runny nose, not aches and pains, not lack of energy, the worst bit is the sodding two days I get to spend trying to equalise the pressure in my ears... and then when they finally pop and get right, sniffing and cocking it all up again!

Amirya wrote:Post your bewilderment:

16 year old girl's skydiving accident

Wethington's father says his daughter should not have been allowed by the Oklahoma skydiving company to perform the jump, even though Makenzie's parents signed off on letting her do it.


What? Is it because the company may have not ensured she was properly trained? Or is it because the father was expecting the company to parent his daughter?

First off: wow that must have hurt, although I suppose it wasn't 3000 feet of full free fall as her chute was out but not open so at least it would have slowed her a bit.
Secondly: I can't possibly imagine how absolutely terrible it must have been for her dad (who jumped first) to watch the whole thing happen and be powerless to do anything about it. So in that case I think I can forgive a bonehead blame-shifty quote or two.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:43 am
by Amirya
Oh, I absolutely can empathize with Dad. I'm just not following the logic of that statement, but it makes sense, I suppose. "If it's the company's fault, then it won't be mine that my little girl is there."

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:13 pm
by Nooska
Finally got around to wanting to play some HS, and the game won't start up :(

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:04 am
by Darielle
Worldie wrote:Just tried with a friend, it indeed generates 0 threat, BOTH the heal and the dmg.

Swapping back to holy prism until they fix it <.<


So actually, this just got even weirder (and frustrating, heyo) after I got into a talk on the WoW forums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsAAnxuziUU
Notice no threat generated, the mob isn't pulled off. When Judgment happens, Judgment generates threat, but no threat from the LH exists at all (it's not even delayed threat, because the Judgment + Xuen procs are the only ones generating threat, and the numbers back that up)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AsPbrpfyE
At 00:30, the LH is on a mob that's already aggoed (the Crab) while the Priest has pulled an extra mob (the Sha). Threat generated on the Crab, the Crab turns. The extra mob doesn't get any threat on it and continues hitting the Priest.
Fast forward to 2:05, and once again LH fails to pull off a Priest's staff autoattack.

Apparently the way it's behaving is that if you have no other threat on the mob, LH will generate no threat (not even delayed threat, the threat simply doesn't exist), but if you have generated threat with other spells prior, LH threat will be redirected to you?

If anyone cares to try these out and see if I'm not crazy, or if I am, go right ahead

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:05 am
by Nooska
That does sound rather smart - meaning LH doesn't autopull random critters within "range", but does add threat on engaged mobs.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:55 am
by Worldie
The problem lies on the fact that one of the major uses for LH is to pickup newly spawned groups of mobs :|

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:47 am
by Klaudandus
Well, that's pretty stupid.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:16 pm
by Ironshield
EU login issues have been going on for a while now it seems, but I've had zero problems logging in... Tonight is raid night - Half an hour and no joy despite @BlizzardCSEU_EU claiming it's better :(

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:59 pm
by Darielle
Nooska wrote:That does sound rather smart - meaning LH doesn't autopull random critters within "range", but does add threat on engaged mobs.


Oh, to add to that, if you're solo, or the only person on the mob's threat table, it'll pull to you just fine.

Basically it means LH is going to have wasted ticks if you're using it to generate threat on mobs that someone else has if you can't first HotR or something else to the mobs. It'll still pull random critters (why would that even be a concern? NERF SQUIRREL), pull random mobs if they walk in, break CC, etc.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:44 pm
by Worldie
Darielle wrote:Basically it means LH is going to have wasted ticks if you're using it to generate threat on mobs that someone else has if you can't first HotR or something else to the mobs. It'll still pull random critters (why would that even be a concern? NERF SQUIRREL), pull random mobs if they walk in, break CC, etc.


Just quoting myself

Worldie wrote:The problem lies on the fact that one of the major uses for LH is to pickup newly spawned groups of mobs :|


For example, on Garrosh, I'd throw light's hammer to a side of adds spawn, and run to pick the other 3 with avenger shield. This would be no longer possible.

Do we need help for holding mobs we already got threat on? Hardly. Really, we don't. Might as well run ES at that point as it provides better DPS.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:47 pm
by Darielle
Not the same thing. By using LH on a mob that has been hit with, say, HotR, or one tick of Consecrate, and presumably a mob that you have "generated" threat on with EF qualifies, you're actually generating significant aoe threat. A mob that you have "threat" on isn't necessarily a mob is aggroed on you.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:44 pm
by bldavis
raid time, and we are resetting
first of all, we have 13 signups, so yay for that..and a lot of those signups are people just coming back and wanting to raid, and we do need a couple more people just in case, so we are trying to gear them up..so no problem with resetting

we sit 3 of our best geared dps so the new people can get in and get gear, i am tanking, and our other normal tank is on his rogue because guild leadership wanted an officer in the raid, and the other 2 sat

well about that time, my internet starts fucking up..
i cant stay on wow or vent for longer than 10 minutes at a time, and most times its 3-5

i volunteer to be sat, and ask our other tank to switch to his tank because of my internet
i have a feeling that even though i had talked to our GM/RL, everyone ELSE thought i was doing so because i was pissed off about the reset and wanted to be a little bitch and throw a fit cause we werent working on garrosh (was an earlier incident that wasnt handled the best..i have made amends for that though..i thought at least)

so hopefully now that my internet is working again, i dont have to rebuild bridges again.
this reset i was all for, we need the new blood, and we need to get them gear so they can help on garrosh and be on par with our other raiders..or at least closer.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:18 am
by Worldie
I still hardly see just light's hammer AoE taking off a mob from another tank actively aoetanking. I doubt it has *ever* been a issue.