Post your Frustrations.

[Klaudandus]

but socialism!

[Darielle]

It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.

No, your beef is still with the encounter and fellow raiders; you're not fighting game mechanics.

Here's what SHOULD happen.

Everyone in the raid is spread. When a swirl pops under them, they move out, target that add and instantly blow it up. This makes the add die in 3 seconds. EF healing threat split between 9 mobs even with RF will never compete with this kind of single target burst.

The only reason you're having trouble with this part is raiders running around like headless chickens not attacking adds. The game mechanics aren't at fault; you're only pulling threat on mobs that have 0 threat from damage dealers to begin with.

[Teranoid]

It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.

Tell your dps to stop sucking, pick an add and kill it.

[Nooska]

but socialism!

but not socialism (for once) - democractic housing.
Laws stating that the rent must be equally split based on squaremeterage for a section, and some rules bout making sure to keep an amount of money in an account to pay for running upkeep (so rent doesn't fluctuate wildly depending on what things you need to do).
With a stipulation that 1 household = 1 vote (okay, most places 2 votes, so each adult in a partnered household has a vote, but you get votes regardless of amount of people or size of apartment) - from the people living there, a board for each section is chosen (size dependant on the decisions of the annual meeting - minmum 3 though). The housing association (usually more than 1 section, ours has 3) has a board that controls the company, where the majority must be residents (you can stipulate external members as well, usually someone designated by the city, or members with particular skills) - the members of this board is either chosen by an annual general assembly (where each household in the company has 1(or 2) votes) or by a group of representatives which are chosen from each secition by that sections annual residents meeting.

I won't say there are no downsides - the strenght of this model is the residents democracy, however that is also the weakness (a majority can block something that is needed to be done, because it will increase rent more than they are willing to pay for example), but it is mitigated, in that, if a board (either section board or company board) think taht neede maintenance is not being done, they can decide to tell the section to do it, or take it to the monitoring authority, which can then tell them to do it. (requirements being that it is neededd for the upkeep of the buildinsg, or required by law or somesuch - so a failsafe to guard against stingy residents letting the buildings deteriorate unacceptably)

[Worldie]

It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.

Tell your dps to stop sucking, pick an add and kill it.

Random curiosity as I've not done garrosh hc myself, why is it bad to pick up the whirlwind adds? They were an essential nonfactor damagewise in 25 normal o.o

[Fetzie]

It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.

Tell your dps to stop sucking, pick an add and kill it.

Random curiosity as I've not done garrosh hc myself, why is it bad to pick up the whirlwind adds? They were an essential nonfactor damagewise in 25 normal o.o

When you kill them, they buff every other add in melee range by about 50% damage, double their health pool and heal them for about 50% max life. If about 5 adds die next to each other, the last surviving add will be capable of one-shotting anybody, including a tank and have tens of millions of life.

[Worldie]

Ouch.

[Fetzie]

Ouch.

It also happens on ten and 25 man normal, it's just that they have such little life to begin with that it hardly ever becomes an issue.

[Teranoid]

Or the fact that in 25m you can just have an extra brewmaster kite them around the entire time.

[Fetzie]

Or the fact that in 25m you can just have an extra brewmaster kite them around the entire time.

Meh, we killed them until we had enough dps to kill the boss without any spawning until P3.

[Worldie]

Battlenet broken for a hour already, and I'm here at work sitting and doing nothing when I was planning to level alts <.<

[Amirya]

Worldie, the Battle.net Destroyer

[Worldie]

You thought I couldn't kill WOW but I'm working on it!

[Amirya]

I thought it was Nooska who doubted you!

[Nooska]

*puts on politician garb*
I never said such a thing...

*cough*

[Worldie]

2 hours later still nothing.

Ty bnet.eu for a whole evening in boredom, and tomorrow I'll be out whole day, I'll miss my drug =(


Fact: As soon as I clicked Submit, my bnet launcher managed to connect. QQing always works.

[Amirya]

Post your bewilderment:

16 year old girl's skydiving accident

Wethington's father says his daughter should not have been allowed by the Oklahoma skydiving company to perform the jump, even though Makenzie's parents signed off on letting her do it.

What? Is it because the company may have not ensured she was properly trained? Or is it because the father was expecting the company to parent his daughter?

[Ironshield]

My Frustration = getting over a cold and the absolute worst bit, not a runny nose, not aches and pains, not lack of energy, the worst bit is the sodding two days I get to spend trying to equalise the pressure in my ears... and then when they finally pop and get right, sniffing and cocking it all up again!

Post your bewilderment:

16 year old girl's skydiving accident

Wethington's father says his daughter should not have been allowed by the Oklahoma skydiving company to perform the jump, even though Makenzie's parents signed off on letting her do it.

What? Is it because the company may have not ensured she was properly trained? Or is it because the father was expecting the company to parent his daughter?

First off: wow that must have hurt, although I suppose it wasn't 3000 feet of full free fall as her chute was out but not open so at least it would have slowed her a bit.
Secondly: I can't possibly imagine how absolutely terrible it must have been for her dad (who jumped first) to watch the whole thing happen and be powerless to do anything about it. So in that case I think I can forgive a bonehead blame-shifty quote or two.

[Amirya]

Oh, I absolutely can empathize with Dad. I'm just not following the logic of that statement, but it makes sense, I suppose. "If it's the company's fault, then it won't be mine that my little girl is there."

[Nooska]

Finally got around to wanting to play some HS, and the game won't start up

[Darielle]

Just tried with a friend, it indeed generates 0 threat, BOTH the heal and the dmg.

Swapping back to holy prism until they fix it <.<

So actually, this just got even weirder (and frustrating, heyo) after I got into a talk on the WoW forums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsAAnxuziUU
Notice no threat generated, the mob isn't pulled off. When Judgment happens, Judgment generates threat, but no threat from the LH exists at all (it's not even delayed threat, because the Judgment + Xuen procs are the only ones generating threat, and the numbers back that up)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AsPbrpfyE
At 00:30, the LH is on a mob that's already aggoed (the Crab) while the Priest has pulled an extra mob (the Sha). Threat generated on the Crab, the Crab turns. The extra mob doesn't get any threat on it and continues hitting the Priest.
Fast forward to 2:05, and once again LH fails to pull off a Priest's staff autoattack.

Apparently the way it's behaving is that if you have no other threat on the mob, LH will generate no threat (not even delayed threat, the threat simply doesn't exist), but if you have generated threat with other spells prior, LH threat will be redirected to you?

If anyone cares to try these out and see if I'm not crazy, or if I am, go right ahead

[Nooska]

That does sound rather smart - meaning LH doesn't autopull random critters within "range", but does add threat on engaged mobs.

[Worldie]

The problem lies on the fact that one of the major uses for LH is to pickup newly spawned groups of mobs

[Klaudandus]

Well, that's pretty stupid.

[Ironshield]

EU login issues have been going on for a while now it seems, but I've had zero problems logging in... Tonight is raid night - Half an hour and no joy despite @BlizzardCSEU_EU claiming it's better