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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Darielle » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:22 pm

Light's Hammer is rebugged in 5.4 to generate no threat.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:41 pm

Darielle wrote:Light's Hammer is rebugged in 5.4 to generate no threat.


It seemed to cause Phase 2 empowered whirlwind adds on Garrosh to really like me.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Kal » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:43 pm

Phase 2 empowered whirlwind adds cause PTSD.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Newsom » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:02 pm

Flex wrote:
Darielle wrote:Light's Hammer is rebugged in 5.4 to generate no threat.


It seemed to cause Phase 2 empowered whirlwind adds on Garrosh to really like me.


You know it does damage, too, right? You generally want to avoid AoE damage when those adds spawn.

If you're worried about threat from heals you could always click off Righteous Fury temporarily. I do that when I'm tanking Thok and don't want the bats on me, but still feel like dropping a hammer on them.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Darielle » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:24 pm

You know it does damage, too, right? You generally want to avoid AoE damage when those adds spawn.


To clarify,
Light's Hammmer has been rebroken since 5.4 to act like it did pre 5.2. The threat doesn't get attributed to the Paladin once again.

But yes, once you're in the Empowered Whirling part, there's basically no need whatsoever to have RF up. If your damage dealers are being smart and actually focusing their add down though, RF or no RF, you are not competing with burst single target damage killing adds within 3 seconds.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Newsom » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:50 am

How did you find that out? I'm pretty sure the damage component of Light's Hammer gives threat at least.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:13 am

Seembed to work fine for me in LFR, you sure about that?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby culhag » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:15 am

Flex wrote:Heals form tanks shouldn't produce threat. Oh, using Seal of Insight? Can't do that because shit'll run to you before the other tank can pick them up. Oh, want to use Light's Hammer to help heal the AoE damage? Can't do that all the spawning adds run right to you. It feels like I can't use half my abilities when they would best be used in certain fights because I am fighting to not over threat during add spawn points.

Just remove Righteous Fury if you're not supposed to pick up the adds. That's what I do.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:18 am

Just tried with a friend, it indeed generates 0 threat, BOTH the heal and the dmg.

Swapping back to holy prism until they fix it <.<
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Newsom » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:47 am

The more you know.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:47 am

For being one of the most important things you ever do in life, buying a house is just about the worst thing I've undertaken. FU to mortgage companies. FU to realtors. This is just not fun.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:16 pm

Tell me about it. We nearly got soul-crushed when we met our usual banker and announced monthly payments for up to 1500 EUR. Luckily we found another bank that shaved a couple hundred a month.

Although they DID manage to fuck up and forget about 65k on the cheque they were supposed to bring this Wed for the official Act...

And all in all it's just a gigantic mess of papers and numbers left right and center that leave you profesionally dumbfounded as to what exactly you're paying for.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:34 pm

culhag wrote:
Flex wrote:Heals form tanks shouldn't produce threat. Oh, using Seal of Insight? Can't do that because shit'll run to you before the other tank can pick them up. Oh, want to use Light's Hammer to help heal the AoE damage? Can't do that all the spawning adds run right to you. It feels like I can't use half my abilities when they would best be used in certain fights because I am fighting to not over threat during add spawn points.

Just remove Righteous Fury if you're not supposed to pick up the adds. That's what I do.


It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:49 pm

Sagara wrote:Tell me about it. We nearly got soul-crushed when we met our usual banker and announced monthly payments for up to 1500 EUR. Luckily we found another bank that shaved a couple hundred a month.

Although they DID manage to fuck up and forget about 65k on the cheque they were supposed to bring this Wed for the official Act...

And all in all it's just a gigantic mess of papers and numbers left right and center that leave you profesionally dumbfounded as to what exactly you're paying for.


I make $592.41 too much to qualify for a grant from the government that assists first time home buyers, even though these guidelines are set up based on the following criteria.

Family of 1
Family of 2
Family of 3+

I have a family of 5. Wife, 3 kids, Me.

That's right. They expect that the amount of money that my wife and I make a year to give us the same asset pool as someone who is married with a child. What the fuck?

So, when we start going through everything, what we thought was going to be a 3.5% Down Payment is now turning into almost 8% Down Payment.

When I asked what happened, they said: "Don't you have someone in your family who can give you a gift of the difference?

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Yes. Sure, I'm going to call my rich dead uncle up, and say hey uncle joe bob millionaire, how about you float me some cash!?

At this point, I'm highly doubting that I will even find a way to buy a home. The realtor wont show us a home unless we're pre-approved. I can't get a fucking straight answer if I'm pre-approved. I can't get the mortgage people to even quote me the same numbers in back to back e-mails / phone calls. And all the while, I'm trying to work, and get shit done, and I'm dealing with my wife, who is working and BLOWING UP MY GODDAMN PHONE ABOUT IT, and the mortgage person sending me a bajillion e-mails with questions, and the realtor sounded like a parrot who can only say:

Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?

And I have spent 2 mornings, 50 bucks, and who knows how much in fucking gas driving all over town, to get all the information that the fucking bank needed so that I can be bothered with all of this, just to maybe, possibly, look at buying a home.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:31 pm

The is a horrible realisation that I'm glad my dad passed away so early that I've got some money to bring to bear. I'm no wealthy heir (he was a small-time teacher and athlete), but at least I don't show up empty-handed, which, at 30 is rare enough to elicit confidence from banks.
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