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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:39 am

I've been too used to the security faults in IE to even trust the newer versions.

Firefox it is for me, always.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:37 pm

Chrome is out. I have a negative trustrating towards google. I use the searchmachine, but thats it.
The biggest frustration there is wanting to have a youtube account, but I have to open up with a complete google profile.

I know Chrome sourcecode is available (or did I misunderstand something), but I will inherently not trust a company that has the goal of knowing what I want before I do - thats too much knowledge of me for a company, too easiy to manipulate. (Also that they have to remind themselves "don't be evil", means that they acknowledge the clear potential - I'll just stay clear)

And if any of that sounds paranoid, well yeah it is - and I do have stuff to hide (Being active politically in reagrds to shaping policy, yeah I know a lot that should not be made publically available, after all, we need the full story to determine how to proceed, or what to think, and that kind of trust requires being paranoid about your secret/confidential information - no national security stuff here though, just the sausage being made, including internal discussions and disagreements that are usually solved before the sausage gets presented).
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:59 pm

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/teen ... dwi-crash/

"Couch’s attorneys argued his parents were responsible for the teen’s actions that night because of the way he had been raised. Defense attorneys put a psychologist on the stand who testified Couch was a product of wealth and got whatever he wanted. The psychologist also testified the teen was allowed to drink at a very young age and began driving at 13 years old. Defense attorneys argued Couch needed treatment, not jail and suggested a facility that costs almost half a million dollars a year."
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Newsom » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:33 pm

You think IE is better than Chrome when it comes to privacy? Microsoft sure has you fooled. :P

There's always Opera if you want a secure browser with actual features. Not open source but still.

I really don't see what's wrong with Chromium though. Also, Chrome/Chromium does have a really good Incognito mode where almost nothing is saved and everything is cleared on exit.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:03 pm

Because everyone is so paranoid about "LOL GOOGLE CHROME ENJOY YOUR BOTNET"

I did chuckle at the belief that using a Microsoft product is any less potentially infringing on your privacy than Google.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:12 am

Klaudandus wrote:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/teen-sentenced-to-probation-for-deadly-dwi-crash/

"Couch’s attorneys argued his parents were responsible for the teen’s actions that night because of the way he had been raised. Defense attorneys put a psychologist on the stand who testified Couch was a product of wealth and got whatever he wanted. The psychologist also testified the teen was allowed to drink at a very young age and began driving at 13 years old. Defense attorneys argued Couch needed treatment, not jail and suggested a facility that costs almost half a million dollars a year."

I can't disagree with this. Okay, maybe the treatment is too expensive, but I will never protest the idea of providing rehabilitation rather than punishment, when it's possible.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Kalimaa » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:30 am

I just have to vent my frustration here.

But having to disable my antivirus each time I have to use the official public login here in Denmark (banks, taxes, goverment, insurances etc.) because of the highly suspicious way the system is designed is a royal pain...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:13 am

I don't have any illusions regarding MS and privacy, but since I can't be bothered to run a *nix system for a long list of reasons, I fail to see how using IE is any more open to MS than windows in general (proprietary software, closed coed - if they want my damned info, they will have it; same with anything so called secure running any sort of closed code OS that isn't made by the company/individual using it).
Oh and open source software ha sthe same flaws for 99% of the population, because they aren't able to understand what it does anyway.

TL;DR - privacy in regards to Microsoft when running windows is a nonissue.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:27 am

KysenMurrin wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/teen-sentenced-to-probation-for-deadly-dwi-crash/

"Couch’s attorneys argued his parents were responsible for the teen’s actions that night because of the way he had been raised. Defense attorneys put a psychologist on the stand who testified Couch was a product of wealth and got whatever he wanted. The psychologist also testified the teen was allowed to drink at a very young age and began driving at 13 years old. Defense attorneys argued Couch needed treatment, not jail and suggested a facility that costs almost half a million dollars a year."

I can't disagree with this. Okay, maybe the treatment is too expensive, but I will never protest the idea of providing rehabilitation rather than punishment, when it's possible.


They could always ask the parents to cover part of the cost of the psychological treatment, because he was still a teenager.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:36 am

KysenMurrin wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/teen-sentenced-to-probation-for-deadly-dwi-crash/

"Couch’s attorneys argued his parents were responsible for the teen’s actions that night because of the way he had been raised. Defense attorneys put a psychologist on the stand who testified Couch was a product of wealth and got whatever he wanted. The psychologist also testified the teen was allowed to drink at a very young age and began driving at 13 years old. Defense attorneys argued Couch needed treatment, not jail and suggested a facility that costs almost half a million dollars a year."

I can't disagree with this. Okay, maybe the treatment is too expensive, but I will never protest the idea of providing rehabilitation rather than punishment, when it's possible.


The guy is getting away with murder, actual literal murder, four of them, with a slap on the wrist, simply because he's white and rich. I don't see this concession being made for a black or latino kid whose family happen to be poor.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:41 am

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Sad but true.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:50 am

Oh, I know -- doesn't mean I can't get frustrated by it.

The shrink guy actually said the kid was a victim of Affluenza, of being a rich white sheltered and spoiled kid. That shrink needs a halberd through the scrotum.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:57 am

The biggest problem with Chrome is that it's a terrible memory hog. On my current MacPro (7 years old) running Chrome with 4+ tabs (or really even one) and WoW will basically freeze the system, while Firefox is slow but it works. Basicially it's the way Chrome creates separate rendering sessions for each tab, those quickly bring an older system to it's knees... (Part of the blame also lies with Adobe Flash/Shockwave that's built into Chrome and Safari. certain sites with lots of ads chew tons of memory).
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:35 am

hmm that might explain some of the lag issues i have had recently (as in teh last several months)

might need to reinstall FF and see if that helps
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:50 pm

Klaudandus wrote:The guy is getting away with murder, actual literal murder, four of them, with a slap on the wrist, simply because he's white and rich. I don't see this concession being made for a black or latino kid whose family happen to be poor.


Depending on the terms of the probation any minor offense could get him in jail for 20+ years, so not really a slap on the wrist.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:30 pm

Flex wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:The guy is getting away with murder, actual literal murder, four of them, with a slap on the wrist, simply because he's white and rich. I don't see this concession being made for a black or latino kid whose family happen to be poor.


Depending on the terms of the probation any minor offense could get him in jail for 20+ years, so not really a slap on the wrist.


Normally, anyone else killing 4 people would land 'em 20 years in jail, not probation...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:01 pm

If I could decide, any person murdering 4 people (but even just one) would get all his arms and legs cut and be left alone in the middle of a forest.

Shame I can't really decide about this.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:03 am

Pretty sure it's manslaughter, not murder, as I'd bet it wasn't premeditated. Sure, that's a minor quibble that doesn't do anything to help the families of the victims, but in regards to the court ruling, makes a considerable difference.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:49 am

The crime was the drunk driving, not the accident it caused. You'd look at how impaired his judgement was and whether he knowingly endangered people by getting in the car drunk.

There is definitely a whole lotta bullshit in the defense they used, but it's still more like reckless endangerment or homicidal negligence than murder.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:44 am

Manslaughter is a much lower sentence than murder, some adults have got less than 3 years for it. Add in mitigating circumstances and his age and it isn't that surprising that he got committed to a psychological ward instead of prison.

See here: criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/involuntary-manslaughter-penalties-and-sentencing.html
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:14 am

Ugh... I hate my internet sometimes... waited 30 minutes for an LFR... middle of the Immerseus fight it starts lagging and kicking me off... I log back in fine the first time, then my internet just completely crashes... I reset the modem, nothing happens... eventually get it working and by the time I log back in, I'm already booted from the raid... now to wait in queue again... /sigh
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Era » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:33 am

Feels like a bit of a petty frustration, but still. The character model poses on armoury... Some of them are so bad! My human female paladin hides away behind her giant shield, and my warlock twists away so you can't see her shoulders, and who knows why the weapon isn't even included. Pet peeve! :lol:

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Skye1013 wrote:Ugh... I hate my internet sometimes... waited 30 minutes for an LFR... middle of the Immerseus fight it starts lagging and kicking me off... I log back in fine the first time, then my internet just completely crashes... I reset the modem, nothing happens... eventually get it working and by the time I log back in, I'm already booted from the raid... now to wait in queue again... /sigh


I feel your pain. Same happened to me once, ended up with deserter debuff for good measure. What gives you a deserter debuff seems really random. I've had to go in the middle of raids and not gotten anything, as well as left when I'm the only one left in a group and I got bored of waiting, and then get the debuff for... Well, deserting myself I suppose.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:15 am

You don't get Deserter if you are present for a boss kill.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:33 am

It's a bit inconsistent. Occasionally I've left a LFR right after a ninjapull and I didn't get deserter (a handful times didn't even get the queue cooldown!)
Don't really know honestly.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:49 am

Worldie wrote:It's a bit inconsistent. Occasionally I've left a LFR right after a ninjapull and I didn't get deserter (a handful times didn't even get the queue cooldown!)
Don't really know honestly.

Maybe it goes by whether the group gets a kill or the Determination buff.
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