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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:19 am

I have my personal Facebook as locked down as I possibly can have it, and let few people that I don't know IRL in. I have an Mter or two as a friend, but those are few and far between.

You can find me on there, and you can find my profile pics, and my cover photos, and a few select albums that I have set to public based on people that I know would be interested in seeing them (my son's incubator for example)

But, I've been purging my list. I know it's not the "most secure" thing, but I try and keep my business locked up pretty good. I've even gone back and redacted my name from a good many things in other places, to try and minimalize my digital footprint as much as possible.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Amirya » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:49 am

You're more open than I am, Shoju. I turned my facebook back on, but it's so locked down, no one can find me on there, even when I do give them my information (one friend, it took her about 5 days to get me added, even with me unlocking security on it). My friend number? 8.

I simply do not exist. :D
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:04 pm

Am I the only person here with his facebook profile PUBLIC (so, anyone can view it, even complete strangers)?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:23 pm

I trashtalk my work place a lot, in order to vent, hence why I try to avoid doxing myself... although I bet that if people from MT wanted, they could still find my real name even if I have never given it out. I've left enough clues as it is between here and twitter.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:42 pm

Amirya wrote:You're more open than I am, Shoju. I turned my facebook back on, but it's so locked down, no one can find me on there, even when I do give them my information (one friend, it took her about 5 days to get me added, even with me unlocking security on it). My friend number? 8.

I simply do not exist. :D



The only thing you'll find is my name, and some pics of me. I have it set up (or at least it should be, unless they removed it), that you can't even send me a friend request without my e-mail address. Which basically, was a "You don't ask me to be your friend. I tell you, I'm your friend" type of thing.


EDIT: And yes Worldie, you probably are. I know too much about the downsides of social media to leave much public. Though, my twitter is public. But if people really want to me my thoughts on the Browns, and random musings, and crap I tweet while forced to watch my wife's shows, I uh... well... have at it. My twitter is boring I rarely keep followers who aren't browns fans more than a week.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:59 pm

My Facebook mainly serves as a way to sync game save data between multiple mobile devices.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:40 am

Shoju wrote:EDIT: And yes Worldie, you probably are. I know too much about the downsides of social media to leave much public. Though, my twitter is public. But if people really want to me my thoughts on the Browns, and random musings, and crap I tweet while forced to watch my wife's shows, I uh... well... have at it. My twitter is boring I rarely keep followers who aren't browns fans more than a week.

Theres no downsides of social networks if you don't post compromising stuff on them (which I don't).
Yeah I guess people can see my real name, where I work and my phone number... so? Easier for them to contact me.

Facebook is cool to be amused by other people posting private informations and then complain about "no privacy and their secrets being known by everyone".
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:59 am

Worldie wrote:Theres no downsides of social networks if you don't post compromising stuff on them (which I don't).Yeah I guess people can see my real name, where I work and my phone number... so? Easier for them to contact me.

The bolded part is naïve, though I do like the thought process.

It's along the lines of "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" - complete trust in the system.

As a politician I've bene very invested in privacy questions, and the issue isn't whether the actual system, right now, misuses information (be that general surveillance of specific information gathering like social media), its what the potential for misuse is.
As an example, I (generally) trust the government agencies that are put in place to protect me (and other citizens), but I do not trust each and every one of the persons working there - it only takes 1, and in this day and age of digital identities, a lot of damage can be done to you and your image, specifically because (too) many people do not make informed opinions, and just trust what they see or hear, even when it can obviously be manipulated.

A good example is that most people (in the western world at least) generally trust the police to do their jobs to the best of their abilities (not talking individuals here), but that isn't a reaosn to abolish the justice systmes, becaus ethe police can get it wrong, and the justice system is (theoretically) the check that determines whether they got it right or wrong.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:29 am

Nooska wrote:
Worldie wrote:Theres no downsides of social networks if you don't post compromising stuff on them (which I don't).Yeah I guess people can see my real name, where I work and my phone number... so? Easier for them to contact me.

The bolded part is naïve, though I do like the thought process.

I concur... it isn't always about what you do or don't post... if your settings are public, then anything that anyone posts on your wall is also public.

That being said, I don't have the strictest controls on my fb... I limit what I post/share, but I'll change the settings of an individual picture/post based on whether I care if random stranger X reads it or not.

I do apparently need to adopt a banner that says "I'm gay" because my posts/shares/profile info apparently isn't enough... and I hate feeling like I'm always back in the closet whenever I get moved to a new place...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:32 am

I have seen some pretty awesome pride 'flag' cover pictures, maybe adopt one of those that could be considered tasteful (or not depending on whether you want to be tasteful of course :-P)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:34 am

Oh, also..
Frustration, I can't figure out whether I want to use IE or FF, right now I'm randomly using FF for things (other than FB, which is purely FF since IE has problems - probably me that did something) and I think I'm about 50/50 on usage, but IE is sitll my default browser.

(Don't start in security etc, I make informed choices as to what how and so on, and use protection*)


*that just sounds... wrong...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:39 am

Er... I didn't realize IE was a ever "chosen" if others were available... did IE somehow get that much better... or has FF fallen immensely?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Era » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:03 am

This is how I feel when the exam supervisors go "the time is almost up" for an exam where the estimated time needed has been horribly miscalculated somewhere in the process.

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My class was the first year to have a 3 hour version of an exam that is usually set at 5 hours, but didn't seem like they had made any changes to the length or complexity at all. One guy literally flipped his desk in frustration!

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@Nooska: What about Chrome? Been happily using it for years now.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:48 am

Browsers... FF, Chrome, Safari, they all have different issues.. I'll use them all based on what I'm doing.

Facebook... I have a public page, mainly because my wife tags me with stuff with all her friends (half the discussion is in Thai, so I can't read it anyway) but I don't post anything myself, other than sharing my photography which I want to be publicly viewable.

Twitter... I keep separate accounts for different things, with some of my WoW Twitter accounts being hard to track back to me.

Linkedin... I do it because of work, but don't share anything that would ever be an issue.

Moral of social media: Don''t share anything that could be used against you, and don't share anything that could make you a target.

Unfortunately, in the case Shoju mentioned, people can be stupid on Facebook, not the girl, but the stupid idiots harrassing her. You should not have to hide on social media.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:52 am

Skye1013 wrote:Er... I didn't realize IE was a ever "chosen" if others were available... did IE somehow get that much better... or has FF fallen immensely?


IE versions 10+ are really solid browsers.

Since I am a Mac guy I primarily use Safari, still haven't found a better browser that integrates with OS features. When I use Windows I use Firefox since most of my Windows uses is via Virtual Machines and Chrome doesn't have a way to delete data on exit while Firefox does. Plus I trust Google less with my personal information than other companies. I don't use IE in Windows 7+ because I ran into issues with bookmark sync between it and iCloud.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:39 am

I've been too used to the security faults in IE to even trust the newer versions.

Firefox it is for me, always.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:37 pm

Chrome is out. I have a negative trustrating towards google. I use the searchmachine, but thats it.
The biggest frustration there is wanting to have a youtube account, but I have to open up with a complete google profile.

I know Chrome sourcecode is available (or did I misunderstand something), but I will inherently not trust a company that has the goal of knowing what I want before I do - thats too much knowledge of me for a company, too easiy to manipulate. (Also that they have to remind themselves "don't be evil", means that they acknowledge the clear potential - I'll just stay clear)

And if any of that sounds paranoid, well yeah it is - and I do have stuff to hide (Being active politically in reagrds to shaping policy, yeah I know a lot that should not be made publically available, after all, we need the full story to determine how to proceed, or what to think, and that kind of trust requires being paranoid about your secret/confidential information - no national security stuff here though, just the sausage being made, including internal discussions and disagreements that are usually solved before the sausage gets presented).
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:59 pm

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/teen ... dwi-crash/

"Couch’s attorneys argued his parents were responsible for the teen’s actions that night because of the way he had been raised. Defense attorneys put a psychologist on the stand who testified Couch was a product of wealth and got whatever he wanted. The psychologist also testified the teen was allowed to drink at a very young age and began driving at 13 years old. Defense attorneys argued Couch needed treatment, not jail and suggested a facility that costs almost half a million dollars a year."
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Newsom » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:33 pm

You think IE is better than Chrome when it comes to privacy? Microsoft sure has you fooled. :P

There's always Opera if you want a secure browser with actual features. Not open source but still.

I really don't see what's wrong with Chromium though. Also, Chrome/Chromium does have a really good Incognito mode where almost nothing is saved and everything is cleared on exit.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:03 pm

Because everyone is so paranoid about "LOL GOOGLE CHROME ENJOY YOUR BOTNET"

I did chuckle at the belief that using a Microsoft product is any less potentially infringing on your privacy than Google.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:12 am

Klaudandus wrote:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/teen-sentenced-to-probation-for-deadly-dwi-crash/

"Couch’s attorneys argued his parents were responsible for the teen’s actions that night because of the way he had been raised. Defense attorneys put a psychologist on the stand who testified Couch was a product of wealth and got whatever he wanted. The psychologist also testified the teen was allowed to drink at a very young age and began driving at 13 years old. Defense attorneys argued Couch needed treatment, not jail and suggested a facility that costs almost half a million dollars a year."

I can't disagree with this. Okay, maybe the treatment is too expensive, but I will never protest the idea of providing rehabilitation rather than punishment, when it's possible.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Kalimaa » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:30 am

I just have to vent my frustration here.

But having to disable my antivirus each time I have to use the official public login here in Denmark (banks, taxes, goverment, insurances etc.) because of the highly suspicious way the system is designed is a royal pain...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:13 am

I don't have any illusions regarding MS and privacy, but since I can't be bothered to run a *nix system for a long list of reasons, I fail to see how using IE is any more open to MS than windows in general (proprietary software, closed coed - if they want my damned info, they will have it; same with anything so called secure running any sort of closed code OS that isn't made by the company/individual using it).
Oh and open source software ha sthe same flaws for 99% of the population, because they aren't able to understand what it does anyway.

TL;DR - privacy in regards to Microsoft when running windows is a nonissue.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:27 am

KysenMurrin wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/teen-sentenced-to-probation-for-deadly-dwi-crash/

"Couch’s attorneys argued his parents were responsible for the teen’s actions that night because of the way he had been raised. Defense attorneys put a psychologist on the stand who testified Couch was a product of wealth and got whatever he wanted. The psychologist also testified the teen was allowed to drink at a very young age and began driving at 13 years old. Defense attorneys argued Couch needed treatment, not jail and suggested a facility that costs almost half a million dollars a year."

I can't disagree with this. Okay, maybe the treatment is too expensive, but I will never protest the idea of providing rehabilitation rather than punishment, when it's possible.


They could always ask the parents to cover part of the cost of the psychological treatment, because he was still a teenager.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:36 am

KysenMurrin wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/teen-sentenced-to-probation-for-deadly-dwi-crash/

"Couch’s attorneys argued his parents were responsible for the teen’s actions that night because of the way he had been raised. Defense attorneys put a psychologist on the stand who testified Couch was a product of wealth and got whatever he wanted. The psychologist also testified the teen was allowed to drink at a very young age and began driving at 13 years old. Defense attorneys argued Couch needed treatment, not jail and suggested a facility that costs almost half a million dollars a year."

I can't disagree with this. Okay, maybe the treatment is too expensive, but I will never protest the idea of providing rehabilitation rather than punishment, when it's possible.


The guy is getting away with murder, actual literal murder, four of them, with a slap on the wrist, simply because he's white and rich. I don't see this concession being made for a black or latino kid whose family happen to be poor.
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