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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 2:55 pm

well, for example... progress bars, percentages and estimated times. I need those. I cannot be tied down to a single classroom while I wait for the macbook to dignify itself to finish installing all the updated apps to the ipad.

I need to have a ballpark figure on how much time a specific time is gonna take, according to the computer, rather than gauge it empirically from a case to case basis as I work on each and every single ipad cart in the district.

Like I said, one school alone has 37 carts (925 ipads), the other middle schools have 35, 17 and 15 respectively. then there's the elementary schools with 2 carts each...

Then god forbid the HD locks up on the macbook during the update to 10.7.5 or the process will be setback by a whole day, while restoring the macbook -- and the restored macbook doesnt accept the apple configurator backups from before the crash...

Right now it is taking about 4 hrs to finish a whole cart and have it up to date with everything, if all goes well... But having etas would help us all out a lot as a dept, allowing us to better stagger ourselves and our work rather than babysit 25 ipads for between 2 and 4 hrs, not knowing when it will be done.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue May 14, 2013 3:00 pm

Windows Update's pretty bad like that right now. Doesn't really indicate more than how many files have been installed, and not much distinction between large and small ones.

Windows Vista's disk defragmentation was the worst - it gave no progress indicators at all, just text saying it was in progress.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Tue May 14, 2013 3:12 pm

But the general shittiness of computer ETAs makes "in progress" similarly accurate as trying to give precise estimates on semi-complex tasks. Windows installers tend to be the most fun in my usage experience since they are all so varied. Had an installer that flew by the first 80ish percent then died the last portion because it installed a big file then went to a bunch of small files and based progress on overall expanded size. HP printer driver installers giving me double progress bars, one for overall stage status and then the bottom giving me a progress bar for every individual file installed or downloaded, so a bunch of small files being installed results in an amazing flashing progress bar.

Back when OS X still showed one at boot it was a fake one. A timer would time the time it took to go from bootloader to when the UI service was loaded, save it to a text file and the next boot would use that value to create the status bar.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Tue May 14, 2013 3:18 pm

I don't think Windows systems would be any better. The MacBook HD locking and causing you to need to restore then redo all the iPads.. sure... Windows would NEVER do that... :roll:

While on the topic of Apple...

Where the hell is my new MacPro? Not buying new Mac hardware until it's released, and am getting closer to buying a PC..
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Chunes » Tue May 14, 2013 3:31 pm

I think my largest gripe about apple is just the whole "Apple knows best" mentality when it comes to their user experience. I'm with klaud in that I do not enjoy the apple OS environment, but that's largely a product of taste and how accustomed I am to the windows organization.

I ran a 17" powerbook all through college and I loved it, but admittedly I was sort of short on windows-based options because at the time, XP was getting pretty long in tooth and all the pc-based laptop makers had not really caught on to the modern design philosophy of laptops that is now taken for granted (i.e. backlit keys, quality chasis, ridiculous resolution on the screen, widescreen aspect ratio, etc.)

When vista dropped, I jumped on the bandwagon and had a fucking terrible time of it, but I was plagued more by non-existant windows certified drivers for my GPU and an unstable 32b environment than anything. Vista was a failure but at least it still had the features that windows has battle tested in the enterprise environment in terms of user account control, network resource management and the like. I have not had an easy time getting my wife's powerbook to do the same stuff that takes ~5 min to configure on windows machines, but I admit, much of that is likely due to lack of understanding of the OSX environment. To that point though, isn't is supposed to be really easy to use a mac? There's a disconnect somewhere when you start to transition from casual user to power user, but I digress.

When 7 came out, it was like the best of the XP days, the aesthetic of the vista days all polished to a very high level of stability and quality.

Also, being able to put together a win7 machine from the bare parts is something you can't really do with an apple because they own all the hardware manufacturing etc. It makes for a very, very stable environment because you don't have to cater to aging hardware standards like the PC makers do and you can architect your software with a single hardware paradigm in mind, but you lose that flexibility of being able to choose the parts you want for the task at hand. That's not a trade off I'm really ever willing to make just for a stable user experience.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 3:37 pm

I dont have a qualm with apple as a single user machine, but its horrible, from my experience,as a mass deployed machine.

also, it seems my central AC unit died... it's 80 degrees inside the house and it doesnt seem to be cooling anything at all.

Make it 81
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 5:09 pm

Well... fark... Nalak hates tank specs
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Tue May 14, 2013 5:48 pm

Shoju wrote:MoP has finally put the dagger in Lurkers-Terenas.
Looks like they will be moving / absorbed into another guild they have been friendly with since Vanilla.

Just lost too much momentum with the losses at the end of Cataclysm.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Wed May 15, 2013 2:54 am

^causal or casual?

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed May 15, 2013 3:25 am

Toddlers are good with pretty much any touchscreen device. It's the most intuitive interface there is.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Wed May 15, 2013 6:27 am

halabar wrote:
Shoju wrote:MoP has finally put the dagger in Lurkers-Terenas.
Looks like they will be moving / absorbed into another guild they have been friendly with since Vanilla.

Just lost too much momentum with the losses at the end of Cataclysm.


D3 killed Lurkers long before MoP did.


D3 didn't leave them short of enough people to raid. D3 came out, and we still raided.
They still raided after you left.
They still raided after I left.
They still raided after the GM went off the reservation because his presidential candidate lost the election, and he thought the world was going to end, and quit in the middle of the night.
They still raided all of the intro content.
They can't raid now. in 5.2.

If you wanted to list them as nails in a coffin,
Firelands was a hefty nail. (small raid size)
Dragon Soul was a Pretty big nail (Small Raid Size, and Linear environment)
D3 was a Pretty Big nail, but it didn't kill the guild. (The Lurkerlounge was a D2 fan site, akin to this place. That should be no surprise)
MOP has been the final nail in the coffin.

At least they have a friendly guild to go to, and a lot of people are leaving alts and the like in the Lurkers Guild.

Sadly, this development will probably keep me from ever going back to WoW. Even with my distaste for the current Xpac, and changes, I could have at least entertained the idea of coming back to WoW in the future. BUt it would have been for social reasons.

I am a Lurker. I don't have anything against the guild they went to, but it's not <Lurkers>. It's probably weird, but knowing that I would be raiding under a different name is a negative.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed May 15, 2013 7:18 am

More apple gripes.

would it really hurt them to openly list the direct download links to their iOS updates?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Wed May 15, 2013 7:36 am

respond to a call for 'group 2 forming for oondasta'

silly me for thinking that this meant that:
1) group 1 had its crap together (as in: was full, had tanks and healers and someone to pull)
2) group 1 even knew group 2 existed and was in communication with the RL (which I at some point became, after the dude recruiting decided to do I don't even know what)

Seriously people. It's not that hard, even if you do the chain-rez multi-raid nonsense because no one can bother to do things remotely properly. It *should not* take another 45 minutes after having 50+ people on the island (and maybe 20 more en-route) before the first pull is made (terribly) by a tank running back to the grave/beach area.

Once we did actually pull, I then promptly failed at Theck's (completely clear, I should note) instructions to simply outlive the crap tanks, thereby obtaining god-like status. *facepalm*
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Wed May 15, 2013 8:00 am

like shoju said, lurkers has stopped raiding as a guild, with our raiders having open invites to another guild on the server.
time to face a few tough choices

do i switch my raiding toons over or keep them in lurkers?
do i switch my alts?
which guild do i raid with now on saturday nights? (new horde guild is thurs and sat nights, lurkers was mondays)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby JoeBravo » Wed May 15, 2013 9:10 am

Sagara wrote:
JoeBravo wrote:lost a dps again, so with exams going on a lot of cancelled raids >_<
Need fresh recruits :(


I know it's evil, and honestly, I'm a bit bummed, but it had to be done:

*coughs*


the 'slimming our roster before doesn't seem so smart now' comments have been made in guild too ;)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed May 15, 2013 11:35 am

bldavis wrote:like shoju said, lurkers has stopped raiding as a guild, with our raiders having open invites to another guild on the server.
time to face a few tough choices

do i switch my raiding toons over or keep them in lurkers?
do i switch my alts?
which guild do i raid with now on saturday nights? (new horde guild is thurs and sat nights, lurkers was mondays)


Guess I should decide what to do with my 85 hunter that's still in Lurkers...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Wed May 15, 2013 11:45 am

Lurkers is not disbanding, Keepers is just willing to absorb the raid team and are welcoming any and all lurkers that want to make the switch (based on lurkers forum posts by swirly)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed May 15, 2013 12:03 pm

bldavis wrote:Lurkers is not disbanding, Keepers is just willing to absorb the raid team and are welcoming any and all lurkers that want to make the switch (based on lurkers forum posts by swirly)


But with all the changes..

I was thinking about going ahead and leveling that hunter in down-time between 5.3 and 5.4, once the lock project is up to speed. Now, not so sure...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Wed May 15, 2013 12:17 pm

The guild will largely be there for those of us who don't play anymore. The guild won't be removed, and from what I understand one of two people will still have a toon at the helm of it.

You don't have to leave. But if you stay, it'll probably be pretty quiet. Both sides are looking at it as a marriage, not an absorption of one guild.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nikachelle » Wed May 15, 2013 12:38 pm

Speaking of weird guild maneuvers... my horde guild has decided to go on hiatus for the summer and booted almost EVERYONE out of it. Talk about bizarre. They're a group of players who mostly all know each other IRL. They kept me in guild, oddly enough, even though I don't know any of them personally, but they booted a few friends who were left wondering what the heck was going on. The guild used to be rather massive, but they physically whittled it down to 18 accounts.

I'm unsure if I should look elsewhere on the server just to have some social activity while I level... but I did like the people in the one my horde character is currently in. That being said, I barely log on so it's not exactly a huge deal.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Wed May 15, 2013 1:02 pm

I sometimes wonder what would have happened had I kept <Exodar Test Pilot> Running. It was a fun guild, and I had a good time with it, right up until one of the officers drained the guild bank of everything, /gquit, and went running off to another guild.

Uller. That was his name in game. Bastard. With the little dots above the U.

He thought he had gotten away with it, until I logged in, and he was standing right in front of me.

It was just a leveling guild at the time, but we were working through content as a guild, scheduled run nights, and scheduled PvP stuff. We started at the end of BC, and we had planned to just hit the ground running as a Raiding Guild when WOTLK happened. We were only going to be a 1 night a week raiding thing to start though, So I'm not sure how well that work have worked.

But hey, at the end of BC, we were up to 4 GB tabs, and had about 5k in the bank. It was my own fault that I left the Bank as unprotected as I did. I did it because I was letting that guy run the AH for us, and he was making a lot of bank off the stuff that we were dropping in the bank as we went along. that 5k was primarily the profits of the AH from all the stuff that people had tossed in there while leveling in case anyone needed it. If it sat more than 7 days, we auctioned it, and the proceeds went in the bank.

And then that bastard had to ruin it.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed May 15, 2013 1:56 pm

Shoju wrote:The guild will largely be there for those of us who don't play anymore. The guild won't be removed, and from what I understand one of two people will still have a toon at the helm of it.

You don't have to leave. But if you stay, it'll probably be pretty quiet. Both sides are looking at it as a marriage, not an absorption of one guild.


Last few times I logged on, didn't recognize anyone anymore except for a bare few when looking at the toon list.

Perhaps I should take a look at Arie Peak horde side, and see if there's profit to be made in AH moves there...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Amirya » Wed May 15, 2013 4:10 pm

New frustration this week:

My own stupid body. For no reason that can be reasonably explained, my own stupid body has decided to cause my glucose readings to spike erratically. Working with the doctor to bring them back to an even keel, but...I seriously hate myself.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Wed May 15, 2013 9:59 pm

Pre-raid Nalak kill. Mage wins tier gloves then uses his bonus roll. Wins tier legs. The gloves are a repeat loot for him. The tier legs replace his Thunderforged legs. That dude has some bitchin luck on world boss kills.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Wed May 15, 2013 11:20 pm

Yeah a friend of mine got pants and gloves on single kills.. two weeks in a row.

Meanwhile I'm getting the same pair of pvp pants 3 weeks in a row and wasted rolls :<
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