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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Tue May 14, 2013 8:18 am

MoP has finally put the dagger in Lurkers-Terenas.
Looks like they will be moving / absorbed into another guild they have been friendly with since Vanilla.

Just lost too much momentum with the losses at the end of Cataclysm.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Tue May 14, 2013 10:23 am

benebarba wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Well, yeah, but it is easier to ask for funds since he already has the social networking in place, from his association with DC.


Sure, but don't make the mistake in thinking that because he published with DC that he can walk up to them and say 'Give me <insert random number here> for this thing I came up with, with no strings, because I say it'll be awesome.'


It isn't like comics artists/writers are hugely wealthy either since they are contract work for hire people most of the time. They may live comfortably but may not be able to afford to invest 100% of the funds needed to get the project moving. Add in that creator owned work is incredibly difficult to do within the confines of a big publishers, lots of risk for little reward after all, which is why big industry people like Gail Simone and Jimmy Palmiotti moved to Kickstarter for creator owned works. Both of them also regularly re-tweet Kickstarter pleas by young indie comics people all the time to help spread the love.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Tue May 14, 2013 10:24 am

this comic-related kickstarter reminded me: Kid Beowulf... check it out. Chatted with the artist this past weekend. Fun idea for a comic, and I like the guy's art.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby JoeBravo » Tue May 14, 2013 11:28 am

lost a dps again, so with exams going on a lot of cancelled raids >_<
Need fresh recruits :(
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Tue May 14, 2013 11:42 am

Shoju wrote:MoP has finally put the dagger in Lurkers-Terenas.
Looks like they will be moving / absorbed into another guild they have been friendly with since Vanilla.

Just lost too much momentum with the losses at the end of Cataclysm.


D3 killed Lurkers long before MoP did.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 12:45 pm

Apple Configurator.

Would it hurt them if their gui would display percentages and etas?

I seriously hate apple.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Tue May 14, 2013 12:47 pm

Klaudandus wrote:Apple Configurator.

Would it hurt them if their gui would display percentages and etas?

I seriously hate apple.


http://xkcd.com/612/
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Tue May 14, 2013 12:48 pm

Klaudandus wrote:Apple Configurator.

Would it hurt them if their gui would display percentages and etas?

I seriously hate apple.


Sorry, they are too busy working on that new MacPro. Oh.. wait.. errm.. iOS7?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Tue May 14, 2013 1:41 pm

JoeBravo wrote:lost a dps again, so with exams going on a lot of cancelled raids >_<
Need fresh recruits :(


I know it's evil, and honestly, I'm a bit bummed, but it had to be done:

*coughs*
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 2:04 pm

Flex wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Apple Configurator.

Would it hurt them if their gui would display percentages and etas?

I seriously hate apple.


http://xkcd.com/612/


Better than a pie chart that is seemingly stuck at 90% for two hours.

Seriously, the apple configurator progress pie chart goes something like this

5% - starts downloading new IOS
15% - starts decompressing the IOS
35% - starts installing IOS
45% - starts checking supervision pairing with macbook
jumps to 90% - start installing apps
95% - start installing configuration profiles.

guess which step takes forever? the app installations -- and of course, it doesnt tell you how long its gonna take.

Also, would it hurt apple to give me a replace all option when updated all the apps in bulk and importing them to the apple configurator? One of the carts had 110 or so updates, but when importing them you have to click on the "accept" button for each and every single one when importing.

Not sure why so many people have a hard-on for apple.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Chunes » Tue May 14, 2013 2:15 pm

Shiny, easy to use*, expensive (and thus exclusive), LOL NO VIRUSES LOLOLOL**.

but really, marketing.



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(**not strictly true, but close enough)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 2:19 pm

Chunes wrote:Shiny, easy to use*, expensive (and thus exclusive), LOL NO VIRUSES LOLOLOL**.

but really, marketing.



(*for plebs)
(**not strictly true, but close enough)


So, apple is the abercrombie & fitch of the technology world? *snort* now that I think about it that way... it makes a lot of sense.

But seriously, since I've been working a lot recently with the macs and using them to manage a whole classroom worth of ipads (of which we have many -- one school alone has 37, that is 925 ipads), I notice their management software is crap. Or rather, Apple is not really meant for business management.

Sure its shiny, and several of my people use them for video editing and such, but I hate them for their shortcomings, something i've noticed people dismiss as a sort of flavor/style thing rather than as an actual shortcoming.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Tue May 14, 2013 2:29 pm

Shortcomings for management fine, shortcomings as actual computers? Not really.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 2:41 pm

Flex wrote:Shortcomings for management fine, shortcomings as actual computers? Not really.


Just overpriced as hell. If they would let me, I'd bootcamp the office macbook; I aint trashing the hardware (although its obvious I think the price tag is excessive) but damn if I don't hate the osx ui, and the shortcomings of the management side of their software.

At least I give apple props for having pretty standard support for plenty of their products. I like that the iphone 4 still gets its updates and such.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Tue May 14, 2013 2:46 pm

Klaudandus wrote:
Flex wrote:Shortcomings for management fine, shortcomings as actual computers? Not really.


Just overpriced as hell. If they would let me, I'd bootcamp the office macbook, I aint trashing the hardware (although its obvious I think the price tag is excessive) but damn if I don't hate the osx ui.


Well because Apple charges a healthy margin instead of a razor thin margin and try to make up for it in volume. Latest conjecture has Apple making more profit on their Mac sales than the top 5 Windows PC makers combined.

And what's wrong with the UI? Most issues I see revolve around people trying to use it like Windows instead of using it like OS X, which is understandable as Windows 7 annoys the fuck out of me since I mainly use Macs.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 2:55 pm

well, for example... progress bars, percentages and estimated times. I need those. I cannot be tied down to a single classroom while I wait for the macbook to dignify itself to finish installing all the updated apps to the ipad.

I need to have a ballpark figure on how much time a specific time is gonna take, according to the computer, rather than gauge it empirically from a case to case basis as I work on each and every single ipad cart in the district.

Like I said, one school alone has 37 carts (925 ipads), the other middle schools have 35, 17 and 15 respectively. then there's the elementary schools with 2 carts each...

Then god forbid the HD locks up on the macbook during the update to 10.7.5 or the process will be setback by a whole day, while restoring the macbook -- and the restored macbook doesnt accept the apple configurator backups from before the crash...

Right now it is taking about 4 hrs to finish a whole cart and have it up to date with everything, if all goes well... But having etas would help us all out a lot as a dept, allowing us to better stagger ourselves and our work rather than babysit 25 ipads for between 2 and 4 hrs, not knowing when it will be done.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue May 14, 2013 3:00 pm

Windows Update's pretty bad like that right now. Doesn't really indicate more than how many files have been installed, and not much distinction between large and small ones.

Windows Vista's disk defragmentation was the worst - it gave no progress indicators at all, just text saying it was in progress.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Tue May 14, 2013 3:12 pm

But the general shittiness of computer ETAs makes "in progress" similarly accurate as trying to give precise estimates on semi-complex tasks. Windows installers tend to be the most fun in my usage experience since they are all so varied. Had an installer that flew by the first 80ish percent then died the last portion because it installed a big file then went to a bunch of small files and based progress on overall expanded size. HP printer driver installers giving me double progress bars, one for overall stage status and then the bottom giving me a progress bar for every individual file installed or downloaded, so a bunch of small files being installed results in an amazing flashing progress bar.

Back when OS X still showed one at boot it was a fake one. A timer would time the time it took to go from bootloader to when the UI service was loaded, save it to a text file and the next boot would use that value to create the status bar.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Tue May 14, 2013 3:18 pm

I don't think Windows systems would be any better. The MacBook HD locking and causing you to need to restore then redo all the iPads.. sure... Windows would NEVER do that... :roll:

While on the topic of Apple...

Where the hell is my new MacPro? Not buying new Mac hardware until it's released, and am getting closer to buying a PC..
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Chunes » Tue May 14, 2013 3:31 pm

I think my largest gripe about apple is just the whole "Apple knows best" mentality when it comes to their user experience. I'm with klaud in that I do not enjoy the apple OS environment, but that's largely a product of taste and how accustomed I am to the windows organization.

I ran a 17" powerbook all through college and I loved it, but admittedly I was sort of short on windows-based options because at the time, XP was getting pretty long in tooth and all the pc-based laptop makers had not really caught on to the modern design philosophy of laptops that is now taken for granted (i.e. backlit keys, quality chasis, ridiculous resolution on the screen, widescreen aspect ratio, etc.)

When vista dropped, I jumped on the bandwagon and had a fucking terrible time of it, but I was plagued more by non-existant windows certified drivers for my GPU and an unstable 32b environment than anything. Vista was a failure but at least it still had the features that windows has battle tested in the enterprise environment in terms of user account control, network resource management and the like. I have not had an easy time getting my wife's powerbook to do the same stuff that takes ~5 min to configure on windows machines, but I admit, much of that is likely due to lack of understanding of the OSX environment. To that point though, isn't is supposed to be really easy to use a mac? There's a disconnect somewhere when you start to transition from casual user to power user, but I digress.

When 7 came out, it was like the best of the XP days, the aesthetic of the vista days all polished to a very high level of stability and quality.

Also, being able to put together a win7 machine from the bare parts is something you can't really do with an apple because they own all the hardware manufacturing etc. It makes for a very, very stable environment because you don't have to cater to aging hardware standards like the PC makers do and you can architect your software with a single hardware paradigm in mind, but you lose that flexibility of being able to choose the parts you want for the task at hand. That's not a trade off I'm really ever willing to make just for a stable user experience.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 3:37 pm

I dont have a qualm with apple as a single user machine, but its horrible, from my experience,as a mass deployed machine.

also, it seems my central AC unit died... it's 80 degrees inside the house and it doesnt seem to be cooling anything at all.

Make it 81
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue May 14, 2013 5:09 pm

Well... fark... Nalak hates tank specs
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Tue May 14, 2013 5:48 pm

Shoju wrote:MoP has finally put the dagger in Lurkers-Terenas.
Looks like they will be moving / absorbed into another guild they have been friendly with since Vanilla.

Just lost too much momentum with the losses at the end of Cataclysm.
:shock: '

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Wed May 15, 2013 2:54 am

^causal or casual?

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed May 15, 2013 3:25 am

Toddlers are good with pretty much any touchscreen device. It's the most intuitive interface there is.
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