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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby culhag » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:26 am

Nooska wrote:Also, people that when asked to repeat themselves say something else (try to say it in another way) - one is not dumb because one has a hearing impairment

I sometimes do that, not because I think the other is dumb, but because I figure I could have phrased my thoughts better.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:35 am

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:42 am

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:42 am

Klaudandus wrote:http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/04/30/gear-gone/#continued
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Like so many wow-insider opinion articles, I can't help but feel like they never really bothered to bounce the idea of someone whose opinion they *didn't* know (or agree with).

Seriously, that just came off like it's time for him to play a new game.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Chunes » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:44 am

I think the writer has some good points, but it will never really happen. WoW’s too set in its ways and the paradigm of crystallizing your time and effort into purps (i.e. increased stats) will likely never change significantly.

The change would just be too drastic for the bulk of the playerbase to understand, adapt and adjust to. It’s almost baked into your brain when playing wow, you kill things to get gear, to kill more difficult things. If they removed that, I think a lot of players would feel lost.

Now, if a new game came out that sported this sort of system that the author is getting at, I could get behind it in a heartbeat.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:46 am

I love how he's talking about radically changing an almost 9 year old game. Should have thought of this in 2007 buddy.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:51 am

Not to mention that the playerbase doesnt take the aesthetic reward hook.

Challenge modes are not the big thing they expected it to be, and heroic raiders proved it is not just about the title but also the gear.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:52 am

That is a terrible article on so many levels. It's written more as a forum post, full of misspellings, grammar errors, and even a few thoughts that aren't fully fleshed out. Does this guy get paid to write this? I'm sure I could turn in articles of at least that quality on a daily basis.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:54 am

Shoju wrote:That is a terrible article on so many levels. It's written more as a forum post, full of misspellings, grammar errors, and even a few thoughts that aren't fully fleshed out. Does this guy get paid to write this? I'm sure I could turn in articles of at least that quality on a daily basis.


I think that's the managing editor's article...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Chunes » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:57 am

What is the reasoning behind challenge modes not rewarding gear of substance?

Wouldn't it be awesome if you could take your freshly leveled alt into a run as a test of skill, and as a reward for demonstrating that skill, you got a shot at some middle tier (with regard to iLvl) loot tables?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:00 am

Chunes wrote:What is the reasoning behind challenge modes not rewarding gear of substance?

Wouldn't it be awesome if you could take your freshly leveled alt into a run as a test of skill, and as a reward for demonstrating that skill, you got a shot at some middle tier (with regard to iLvl) loot tables?


Raiders not wanting to be forced to do 5-mans.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:01 am

I like matt rossi and anne stickney's articles.... Mostly cuz they deal with lore. Walsh's articles are like a summed up version of the latest theck blog of the week, so id just rather read theck even if it gives me a headache.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:03 am

benebarba wrote:
Chunes wrote:What is the reasoning behind challenge modes not rewarding gear of substance?

Wouldn't it be awesome if you could take your freshly leveled alt into a run as a test of skill, and as a reward for demonstrating that skill, you got a shot at some middle tier (with regard to iLvl) loot tables?


Raiders not wanting to be forced to do 5-mans.


Which is the same reason they decried the evils of lfr.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:03 am

Klaudandus wrote:I like matt rossi and anne stickney's articles.... Mostly cuz they deal with lore. Walsh's articles are like a summed up version of the latest theck blog of the week, so id just rather read theck even if it gives me a headache.


Agreed, and I like Theck's writing style more anyway.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:03 am

Chunes wrote:What is the reasoning behind challenge modes not rewarding gear of substance?

Wouldn't it be awesome if you could take your freshly leveled alt into a run as a test of skill, and as a reward for demonstrating that skill, you got a shot at some middle tier (with regard to iLvl) loot tables?

Was a response to "we don't care about the items, we only want the challenge".
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:04 am

Fetzie wrote:
Chunes wrote:What is the reasoning behind challenge modes not rewarding gear of substance?

Wouldn't it be awesome if you could take your freshly leveled alt into a run as a test of skill, and as a reward for demonstrating that skill, you got a shot at some middle tier (with regard to iLvl) loot tables?

Was a response to "we don't care about the items, we only want the challenge".


greatest bluff calling ever, btw :P
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Chunes » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:06 am

Haha, fickle playerbase is fickle.

You never will be able to please millions all at the same time I suppose.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:08 am

Klaudandus wrote:Not to mention that the playerbase doesnt take the aesthetic reward hook.

Challenge modes are not the big thing they expected it to be, and heroic raiders proved it is not just about the title but also the gear.


Except that's false. Blizzard even stated that more people were doing CMs than they expected and they weren't even designed to be something for everyone to begin with.

It's not huge because most people give up when they realize it actually requires effort and can't be facerolled like heroics.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:09 am

Dont look at me! I was never interested in challenge modes to begin with :p
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:11 am

Teranoid wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Not to mention that the playerbase doesnt take the aesthetic reward hook.

Challenge modes are not the big thing they expected it to be, and heroic raiders proved it is not just about the title but also the gear.


Except that's false. Blizzard even stated that more people were doing CMs than they expected and they weren't even designed to be something for everyone to begin with.

It's not huge because most people give up when they realize it actually requires effort and can't be facerolled like heroics.


I hadn't heard that bit about CMs exceeding expectations. Still a good bluff-calling though.

Well, and let's be fair: this whole 'heroic' thing in 5-mans really is just a single word to mean 'level 90 only' now (explicitly stated by the devs back before release), as opposed to the old normal/heroic dungeons where stuff actually changed.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Winkle » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:12 am

Teranoid wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Not to mention that the playerbase doesnt take the aesthetic reward hook.

Challenge modes are not the big thing they expected it to be, and heroic raiders proved it is not just about the title but also the gear.


Except that's false. Blizzard even stated that more people were doing CMs than they expected and they weren't even designed to be something for everyone to begin with.

It's not huge because most people give up when they realize it actually requires effort and can't be facerolled like heroics.


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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:13 am

Klaudandus wrote:Dont look at me! I was never interested in challenge modes to begin with :p


I was, but then again I was interested in raiding too... and that didn't turn out so great in the long run :P
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:15 am

Winkle wrote:
Teranoid wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Not to mention that the playerbase doesnt take the aesthetic reward hook.

Challenge modes are not the big thing they expected it to be, and heroic raiders proved it is not just about the title but also the gear.


Except that's false. Blizzard even stated that more people were doing CMs than they expected and they weren't even designed to be something for everyone to begin with.

It's not huge because most people give up when they realize it actually requires effort and can't be facerolled like heroics.


Didn't you buy your way to victory?


And that has what to do with my post exactly?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Winkle » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:18 am

That there's already significant enough reward that people are willing to pay for it. In fact i'd argue the transmog sets have more longevity and worth than gear would, since at 463 ilvl what gear would the x-mode actually reward?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:32 am

I wouldn't consider myself part of a general populous that would pay 200k for xmog gear, a mount and some achievements. I've spent ridiculous amounts of gold on the dumbest things but yeah it's really no different than people who buy raid titles and stuff I suppose.
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