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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:25 pm

Teranoid wrote:I would have been on but after I posted my logs in my app yesterday I got no response so I went out and did shit. I mean I get it they were posted in the middle of the day but it doesn't exactly take a long time to look through logs for 3 bosses.

Hearing that they want to take pugs doesn't really make me too keen about all this. I've had more than enough experience with guild leadership with their heads up their asses.



I just don't understand why the 'officers' are so slow on apps when they know we need people and they're pushing us to bump recruitment threads, then they take over a week to reply to anything decent.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:41 pm

Eh I'm just gonna withdraw my app. Took 2 days for my forum account to even be activated and just judging by your posts the officers seem to not give a shit about possibly getting credible apps to advance the guild so whatever which basically tells me the leadership in the guild is absolutely lazy. When I worked 50+ hour weeks even I could take 10 minutes out of my day to talk to them or get them on a trial.

I appreciate the effort for trying to get me in but we're probably both better off not wasting our time. I'll probably just pug or something.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:43 pm

yea, sorry. I just cannot wrap my head around this tbh.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:55 pm

Eh it is what it is. Nothing else you really could have done. I'd already be in a guild if my PC didn't burst into flames at the mention of doing 25 mans.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:00 pm

heh, I understand.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby econ21 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:17 am

Got to the point of the Wrathion quest chain where I could get a meta-gem, but don't have a helm that could take it. Why does that have to be one of the few slots not covered by VP gear?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:19 am

Same boat here. No helm above 496. :(
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nikachelle » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:26 am

Well there is a crafted helm.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:56 pm

Nikachelle wrote:Well there is a crafted helm.

that takes luck with the RNG of learning the right recipe on a bs, when you have 2 different pvp sets, plus 3 different crafted pve sets...and takes 8 ToT drops to be DE'ed

so while there is a helm, it will be expensive, if it is available to you at all
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby econ21 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:10 pm

Nikachelle wrote:Well there is a crafted helm.


I have the recipe for every crafted 522 item. But I have not seen a single haunted spirit for sale in my AH.

New frustration: queue for last wing of ToT. Get Lei Shen. No surprise. Get 6 buffs of determination. Disappointing but no surprise. Kill him and take a break. Re-queue expecting to get fresh run. What do I get? Lei Shen. AAAARGH! Get 30 min deserter buff. Run away, run away!
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:18 pm

i thought they made it so if you get a partial run that finishes, you are first in line for a fresh run when you queue for that section again
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:47 pm

Except when every group is flopping on Lei Shen because apparently anything with mechanics is hard for them and more people are leaving than are being replaced.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:00 pm

Teranoid wrote:Except when every group is flopping on Lei Shen because apparently anything with mechanics is hard for them and more people are leaving than are being replaced.

you have a point
the thing is LFR Lei Shen is easy..just 3 mechanics but it is LFR after all
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:21 pm

bldavis wrote:i thought they made it so if you get a partial run that finishes, you are first in line for a fresh run when you queue for that section again



You're not guaranteed a fresh one, just have priority for one.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:08 am

I haven't wiped on LFR Lei Shen yet. First group I got had 3 stacks, second had 1.

Nika - Yes, there's a crafted helm. It's 73k on the AH, and the Haunting Spirit mats are even more. ;)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:59 am

bldavis wrote:
Teranoid wrote:Except when every group is flopping on Lei Shen because apparently anything with mechanics is hard for them and more people are leaving than are being replaced.

you have a point
the thing is LFR Lei Shen is easy..just 3 mechanics but it is LFR after all


Oh man, trying to convince people that 'AOE is bad, mkay?' on Dark Animus. I seriously had a group the other night that I recommended we try just to have 1 group damage the little guys and everyone else sit there until the large one pops, then attack it and only it.

yeah, that didn't work either. So me and another person popped our tank specs and kept running things away from the tanks people whose mobs people were AOEing like it was going out of style.

Or trying to explain that 'you do crap for damage if you try to attack primordius without looking like a lizardman (and here's how you do that...)'. Eventually someone asking the group to kick anyone below 40K damage seemed to clear that up.

Heck, getting tanks who are willing to move and turn Jin'Rohk so melee don't have to wait for the puddles to get huge before they can deal more damage.

I mean, I'm pretty understanding of not knowing that you should do those things. I am far less understanding when you don't do them after you are told/asked politely to do so, and certainly not understanding after you've been asked in 2 (or 3) languages, both politely and rudely (as in: do this, or we wipe and it's your fault - not the 'do this you f*ckwad').
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:06 am

I'll admit that I will taunt / salv myself on Jin'Rohk just to get the boss near a puddle for the melee.

In unrelated news, it's starting to seriously look like that time in which a game is becoming a job and unenjoyable. Only question is do I quit or move on.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Winkle » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:08 am

AOE is bad on Dark Animus? Hell no, Aoe is awesome on that fight, it's actually one of the more fun LFR fights because its actually completely different to normal.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:10 am

All wipes I've seen on LFR Animus have been due to aoeing down the first adds then getting swamped by Crimson Wake. The kills have been when the aoe on the adds has been slightly slower and the Large adds were split up and run around a lot.

Now I think of it, I'm pretty sure every group I've been in has had one Warlock padding meters with 300k AoE regardless of what anyone tells them.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:11 am

Winkle wrote:AOE is bad on Dark Animus? Hell no, Aoe is awesome on that fight, it's actually one of the more fun LFR fights because its actually completely different to normal.


You clearly haven't been in the runs where you wipe because a bunch of large golems have over-run the room with crimson wake, several massives are eating everyone and Dark Animus activates after you've already blown your b-rezzes on the tanks and your top DPS that the healers couldn't keep up through that mess.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:13 am

KysenMurrin wrote:All wipes I've seen on LFR Animus have been due to aoeing down the first adds then getting swamped by Crimson Wake. The kills have been when the aoe on the adds has been slightly slower and the Large adds were split up and run around a lot.

Now I think of it, I'm pretty sure every group I've been in has had one Warlock padding meters with 300k AoE regardless of what anyone tells them.


pretty much my experience as well.

Also, a strat that worked last run was someone saying 'OK, if you know what you are doing on this fight *don't hit the little guys*, since the other people will do it for us.'
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:03 am

benebarba wrote:
Winkle wrote:AOE is bad on Dark Animus? Hell no, Aoe is awesome on that fight, it's actually one of the more fun LFR fights because its actually completely different to normal.


You clearly haven't been in the runs where you wipe because a bunch of large golems have over-run the room with crimson wake, several massives are eating everyone and Dark Animus activates after you've already blown your b-rezzes on the tanks and your top DPS that the healers couldn't keep up through that mess.

Seeing the boss has no soft enrage in LFR, you can tecnically finish the fight with just a handful of people.

I've been doing it through AoE in all my LFR clears with my trusted co-tank, just make sure tanks don't die (aka, don't stand in fire, pass the rings properly, pass the big golems at high stacks)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:57 am

It does have a hard enrage, though. I've seen it. And god forbid you ask people to stop attacking the Massive golems so that you can beat that enrage.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Winkle » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:06 am

benebarba wrote:
Winkle wrote:AOE is bad on Dark Animus? Hell no, Aoe is awesome on that fight, it's actually one of the more fun LFR fights because its actually completely different to normal.


You clearly haven't been in the runs where you wipe because a bunch of large golems have over-run the room with crimson wake, several massives are eating everyone and Dark Animus activates after you've already blown your b-rezzes on the tanks and your top DPS that the healers couldn't keep up through that mess.


I've only tanked it, we had the mass army of large golems and crimson wake everywhere but managed to survive. It was just quite a lot of fun :)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:48 am

Winkle wrote:
benebarba wrote:
Winkle wrote:AOE is bad on Dark Animus? Hell no, Aoe is awesome on that fight, it's actually one of the more fun LFR fights because its actually completely different to normal.


You clearly haven't been in the runs where you wipe because a bunch of large golems have over-run the room with crimson wake, several massives are eating everyone and Dark Animus activates after you've already blown your b-rezzes on the tanks and your top DPS that the healers couldn't keep up through that mess.


I've only tanked it, we had the mass army of large golems and crimson wake everywhere but managed to survive. It was just quite a lot of fun :)


AOE on that fight is fine IF the tanks can gather everything so all the small adds die at once, and the the larger ones are all picked up.

The problem with the go-it-slow approach is that the tanks never can gather up all the small ones, so you have 1/2 the dps fighting individual small adds that are beating on them instead of the large add that's supposed to be the focus target.
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