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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:24 am

Chrome with 8 tabs open, ~800MB+ (1500MB+ of VMem), but what really seems to choke it when playing WoW at the same time is their PepperFlashPlayer, which you can't turn off, and I don't think an ad blocker helps with that (and I do web development, so turning off Flash and ads is counter-productive since I need to see what stuff actually looks like).
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:25 am

Lieris wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:What is the alternative? Opera? Firefox? Safari?


I never warmed to Firefox on OS X and unfortunately Apple don't want to update their web browser on operating systems older than 3 years so my choices are limited. I have to suck it up and use whichever one sucks the least on this deprecated rig. :(


Yeah, the layout of MTankadin on my version of Safari is kinda busted.

Still waiting for an upgrade for this MacPro... getting closer and closer to buying a Doghouse or building my own PC.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Lieris » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:42 am

halabar wrote:Still waiting for an upgrade for this MacPro... getting closer and closer to buying a Doghouse or building my own PC.


I may have asked you already but what about a Hackintosh? They're supposed to be pretty reliable if you stick to the recommended parts and keep a bootable backup: http://www.tonymacx86.com/339-building- ... -2013.html
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Lieris » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:44 am

Klaudandus wrote:Fox is notoriously bad for your football and our football


Figures. :)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:55 pm

Crit Errs during 2nd breath on Megaera each and every time...ugh.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:54 pm

Lieris wrote:
halabar wrote:Still waiting for an upgrade for this MacPro... getting closer and closer to buying a Doghouse or building my own PC.


I may have asked you already but what about a Hackintosh? They're supposed to be pretty reliable if you stick to the recommended parts and keep a bootable backup: http://www.tonymacx86.com/339-building- ... -2013.html


I'm considering that.. but the biggest problem I've seen is that they are not necessarily the best performers. And having things break when Apple updates. OSX updates are something to be approached with trepidation with a Hackintosh.

But yeah, it's a consideration, and something I'll look at if I do break down and give up waiting on Apple. But it will have to be a reasonable performer. Since there are new video drivers in the 10.8.3 update, I'm going to watch and see what the Hackintosh community does with those.

Edit: Looking at that link, they do seem do be addressing the 10.8.3 update already, so it is something to be considered.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:59 pm

What do you need a Mac Pro for?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Era » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:08 pm

Frustration: Completing Hell difficulty in D3 at level 50. Now I need to grind 10 levels before I can move to the next difficulty...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:39 pm

Flex wrote:What do you need a Mac Pro for?


Graphics and photography. Going to be upgrading to a D800 soon, which has quite large RAW files. Lightroom and Photoshop need some working room. :-) I use dual 24" monitors, and so I need enough video support for them, as well as the capability to expand the storage.

I don't like the iMacs due the the GPU and being locked into a configuration, and also not being able to utilize matching monitors. I could probably get away with a MacMini if there was an option for a better GPU.

Do I really need all the horsepower of an updated MacPro? No. Do I need more than an iMac or MacMini? yes.

Current MacPro is a 2x2.66 DualCore Xeon that's 6 years old now? 5GB RAM isn't quite cutting it, but I don't want to buy old dimms to upgrade it.

If I could upgrade this system to OSX 10.8.3 (which I can't) and get a modern video card for it, then I might go ahead and just upgrade the RAM, CPU still has enough juice, but my video card is 3 years old...

What I fear is going to happen is that Apple is going to release a new MacPro, but it will be a $5k system that still leaves a huge gap between the iMac/MacMini, and the new MacPro. Which will put me back to Doghouse or Hackintosh.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:11 pm

Sims. Arg. I have 3 new trinkets: Renataki's Soul Charm (procs an agi buff that increases over time); Vicious Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault (8800 agi proc); and Bad Juju (7333 agi proc). Lot of people saying that the Shado-Pan trinket is very, very good for Enhance. Simcraft says using it is 2k dps worse than any combination involving the other two.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Levantine » Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:39 pm

Reinstalled SC2 and D3 and I've managed to lose all of my realid/battletag friends. Fucking hell.4
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Lieris » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:20 pm

halabar wrote:What I fear is going to happen is that Apple is going to release a new MacPro, but it will be a $5k system that still leaves a huge gap between the iMac/MacMini, and the new MacPro. Which will put me back to Doghouse or Hackintosh.


I really don't get that about Apple. There are a lot of people who need the flexibility of a tower but don't have silly money to spend on a new computer that is massively overkill for their needs. That their "pro" machine is 3 years out of date yet they sell it for so much is so shameless on their part.

I've been reading up a fair bit on Hackintoshes lately and I really think it's the way to go if you don't need a portable machine; it's not the hassle it used to be. Even if 10.9 did break something with no possible workarounds it would be easy to revert to a backup of 10.8, buy whatever motherboard is recommended for the new OS and pop the old one on ebay. Point releases seem to be a case of waiting for others to post solutions and updating when you have a free evening.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:30 pm

That their "pro" machine is 3 years out of date yet they sell it for so much is so shameless on their part.

Expecting Apple to have shame is like expecting the catholic church to endorse abortions and gay marriage =P

remember... you're talking about the company that patented an oval figure and rectangles with rounded corners and tried to sue a polish grocery store because their website is a.pl
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Lieris » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:55 pm

True.

Consistent with their current design philosophy the next Mac Pro will have RAM soldered to the motherboard, intel graphics and a welded shut case that releases tear gas if a jailbroken iPhone is connected to it. Starting from only $4999.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:17 am

Lieris wrote:Starting from only $4999.

Welding is expensive...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:37 am

Skye1013 wrote:
Lieris wrote:Starting from only $4999.

Welding is expensive...



Silly Skye... this is Apple iWeld(TM). The finest in Cupertino-based welding design technology. It has no flaws, is impervious to fracture and fatigue, and is easily repaired by Approved Apple Service. It will even match your black turtleneck. Oh, but we may change it next year to be even better! So save up to get that one too.


<-- totally not a jaded mac user.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:42 am

Lieris wrote:True.

Consistent with their current design philosophy the next Mac Pro will have RAM soldered to the motherboard, intel graphics and a welded shut case that releases tear gas if a jailbroken iPhone is connected to it. Starting from only $4999.


Don't forget that you'll have to buy everything through the app store.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:08 am

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:49 am

benebarba wrote:<-- totally not a jaded mac user.


Yep, same.. but yet, still waiting for their latest hardware. That doesn't exist.

However, I can see a day not to far off where my computer is a PC, and all the mobile and tablets are iOS.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:24 am

Apple products are 75% brand and 25% the guts inside the case.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Lieris » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:06 am

Klaudandus wrote:Apple products are 75% brand and 25% the guts inside the case.


It depends on the product. The Macbook Air is excellent VFM but their desktops are really lacking in areas that are important to me and their RAM/HDD/SSD upgrades are ridiculously overpriced. Sadly Windows is terrible and Microsoft are a joke of a company so I don't see myself switching.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:36 am

I work with both, but I tend to dislike apple more.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:41 pm

/sigh....I really would like WoW to have a D3 feature of being able to swap between US and EU. I would so love to find a EU guild to raid with.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:47 pm

And gold be a collective at the account level or at least realm level. So obnoxious to have to log over to a main to buy something on an alt.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:51 pm

Klaudandus wrote:I work with both, but I tend to dislike apple more.


IT always hates Apple more.. :wink:
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