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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:22 pm

i'd offer you a spot in my guild, but i cannot promise a raid spot right now -_- too much influx tbh


also, i cant do silvershard mines for shit...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:37 pm

you would be welcome in PK, but no promise of raid slot, plus in the past you have stated our raid timedoesnt work for you

as a social member you would def be welcome though
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:57 pm

bldavis wrote:you would be welcome in PK, but no promise of raid slot, plus in the past you have stated our raid timedoesnt work for you

as a social member you would def be welcome though


Yeah, raid times are always an issue, plus you're raiding on your hunter this go around.. :D

Might try Lurkers on Stormrage, pretty active pug raid environment there. Too bad so many others here are EU, or that I'm not EU.

At least they made the decision for me. Now just need to find a new home.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:13 pm

yes i am, but i also have a shaman and monk i could raid on

that and we have a full raid team currently
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:53 pm

bldavis wrote:yes i am, but i also have a shaman and monk i could raid on

that and we have a full raid team currently


Probably best to get a fresh start anyway.

Just confirmed that they did bail, and left a mess in their wake. I'm under suspicion since I was part of the raid group, lol. Time to move on confirmed.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Kelerei » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:14 am

Garalon... *sigh*

It's really frustrating at the moment -- we're doing everything right except actually killing it. :P
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:51 am

Any particular trouble?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Hespherus » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:23 am

Kelerei wrote:Garalon... *sigh*

It's really frustrating at the moment -- we're doing everything right except actually killing it. :P


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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby twinkfist » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:14 am

hey, we need two dps for our raid group. we start at 1130 east coast. we are pretty bad...couldn't beat elegon...now we are just doing heart of fear.

i don't talk on vent. there are 15 people in the guild. i think we are supposed to raid tonight...but i've thought we were supposed to raid for the last month and that hasn't happened.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:48 am

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/23/39063 ... you-to-see

I think Steve Jobs was probably the shittiest Buddhist ever.
The other guys involved are no better, and I hope they do get sued.
But Steve Jobs takes the cake as being the biggest asshole of the bunch.

I mean, NDA and No-Competition Clauses are common, but those are made known upfront... this is all backdoor deals and affected the livelihood of many people. So screw them
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby CrimsonEyes » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:03 am

The irony of this is just BEAUTIFUL.

'Invoking an unquantitive "some" doesn't make your argument any more valid than his. The problem with you guys at Blizzard nowadays is that rather than having a philosophy / image of a direction you want to take the game in, you buckle in when 20 people throw up a moany post on the forums. You can't develop a game based on the whims of a few, as you said, but it's what you do.'

And yet, he's expecting Blizzard to develop the game based on HIS whims, and the whims of the other really hardcore players, which is.....*drumroll* THE FEW! He's making a moany post on teh forums and expecting Blizzard to buckle.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:34 am

CrimsonEyes wrote:The irony of this is just BEAUTIFUL.

'Invoking an unquantitive "some" doesn't make your argument any more valid than his. The problem with you guys at Blizzard nowadays is that rather than having a philosophy / image of a direction you want to take the game in, you buckle in when 20 people throw up a moany post on the forums. You can't develop a game based on the whims of a few, as you said, but it's what you do.'

And yet, he's expecting Blizzard to develop the game based on HIS whims, and the whims of the other really hardcore players, which is.....*drumroll* THE FEW! He's making a moany post on teh forums and expecting Blizzard to buckle.

Oh, how I loathe humans some days.


There's quite a few other whiney "hardcore" posts there in the latest batch.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:41 am

I wonder what's the clearance rate for HoF and ToES -- is it being cleared at a lower pace than 4.0?

To be honest... I felt my raid progressed faster in Cata than it is currently doing in MoP. Part of it is a bunch of real life throwing shit at my guildies, but I'll say this -- IT'S NOT FUN
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:51 am

i cant really touch on that question for myself, as we didnt raid til the nerfs came in in 4.0, and were 1/7 in FL when we had to take a 2 month break due to school and started again when the nerfs hit, and then were...5/8 pre nerf? with black horn going down i believe in the 10%

we are currently 3/16
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:07 am

Klaudandus wrote:http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/23/3906310/the-no-hire-paper-trail-steve-jobs-and-eric-schmidt-didnt-want-you-to-see

I think Steve Jobs was probably the shittiest Buddhist ever.
The other guys involved are no better, and I hope they do get sued.
But Steve Jobs takes the cake as being the biggest asshole of the bunch.

I mean, NDA and No-Competition Clauses are common, but those are made known upfront... this is all backdoor deals and affected the livelihood of many people. So screw them


As much as I've been a fan of Apple products, Jobs always was an arrogant prick, and his Buddhism was nothing more than stroking his own ego.

There's certainly room there for some fines, but I doubt much will come of it.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:20 am

Klaudandus wrote:I wonder what's the clearance rate for HoF and ToES -- is it being cleared at a lower pace than 4.0?


I suspect it's about the same, although it does feel slower.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Winkle » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:45 am

I'm sure there's a way to find out about progress relative to T11 say, but after nosing around wowprogress and guildox I'm none the wiser.

Hypothetically progress should be easier this tier than say T11 since there's a 1/2 ilvl jump between MSV and HoF/ToeS allowing for more gradual progression.

The first tier is always the hardest as the ilvl jump between leveling and raiding is far greater than between subsequent raiding tiers.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:52 am

halabar wrote:Lolololololololol...... Guess what happened to my raid group sometime over the past week.....


This was with The Forgiven right?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:58 am

Klaudandus wrote:I wonder what's the clearance rate for HoF and ToES -- is it being cleared at a lower pace than 4.0?

To be honest... I felt my raid progressed faster in Cata than it is currently doing in MoP. Part of it is a bunch of real life throwing shit at my guildies, but I'll say this -- IT'S NOT FUN


Our first month and a half of raiding had that entire real life shit plus holidays. I think in the first two months we had one week where we did both nights. Toss in several one offs of people missing days, a new baby eating a week, it has been slow for us but about 70% of it has not really been content difficulty related.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:02 am

Flex wrote:
halabar wrote:Lolololololololol...... Guess what happened to my raid group sometime over the past week.....


This was with The Forgiven right?


Yep, 6-8 of the lead raid group jumped to Illidan horde side.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:05 am

That's not something I'd really expect from that guild.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:09 am

Flex wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:I wonder what's the clearance rate for HoF and ToES -- is it being cleared at a lower pace than 4.0?

To be honest... I felt my raid progressed faster in Cata than it is currently doing in MoP. Part of it is a bunch of real life throwing shit at my guildies, but I'll say this -- IT'S NOT FUN


Our first month and a half of raiding had that entire real life shit plus holidays. I think in the first two months we had one week where we did both nights. Toss in several one offs of people missing days, a new baby eating a week, it has been slow for us but about 70% of it has not really been content difficulty related.


Discounting all the real life and holidays shit, it still feels slower when it comes to boss progression in 5.0 than it did back in 4.0 -- at least for my raid group.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:18 am

Flex wrote:That's not something I'd really expect from that guild.


Yeah, the impact on the guild has not been good. But the group that left really wanted raid progression. They took enough that I don't think a new raid group can be formed.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Amirya » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:23 am

I'm being told that apparently, we may need to look for a new tank and a new healer, as the two currents can't manage a single night of raiding with three daughters.

Which, I totally get the kid thing, but at the same time...it's a single night. And it's not a fricken Satanic ritual when they ask to take a 5 minute to put the kids to bed.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Gab » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:25 am

Klaudandus wrote:Discounting all the real life and holidays shit, it still feels slower when it comes to boss progression in 5.0 than it did back in 4.0 -- at least for my raid group.


I'm having trouble remembering anything in 4.0, other than final bosses (Cho'gal, Nef and Al'akir), that had anything close to the throughput checks non final bosses in 5.0 have.

Elegon and Garalon for example.

It just feels weird that Elegon comes before Will but required 10 times the pulls (2 vs 20 something for our group). Also HoF was much more difficult than Terrace. Garalon and Amber Shaper took far more pulls than anything in Terrace.

I think the tuning was a bit wonky for the 5.0 encounters in their expected order. In 4.0 there was also some flexibilty in kill order where 5.0 is completely linear.
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