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Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:17 am
by Worldie
From what he says I think he's complaining of something not dropping.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:19 am
by Nikachelle
Worldie wrote:From what he says I think he's complaining of something not dropping.

To me it sounds like he hasn't killed it.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:31 am
by Flex
Nikachelle wrote:
Flex wrote:I'm at my patience's end on Troll Boss guy in MSV. I'm not sure what we can do besides me going back on my word of not saying people need to rep factions for gear.

What are the problems?


1) 2 Priests healing got our first kill. This week with a Priest and druid means druid running into mana problems healing people.
2) Occasionally the totem DPS decides to not wait for a healer to be there before killing the totem. This is strictly limited to one person who only seems to help kill the totem early when there is no healer. I'd remove them from totem duty but they're the lowest sustained DPS in the group.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:58 am
by Nikachelle
Well the obvious suggestion seems like you should just switch to three healers. But I get the feeling you're going to tell me you'd just hit enrage that way.

As for the idiot dps who kills totems early... no cure for that unless you decide to start benching people or yell at them every time they do it.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:00 pm
by Flex
we hit the enrage with three healers with the boss at about 10% life.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:02 pm
by Worldie
I'm afraid no amount of rep gear is capable of fixing not understanding tactics.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:26 pm
by Nikachelle
Flex wrote:we hit the enrage with three healers with the boss at about 10% life.

Okay. A few things.

How are your healers going out of mana? When they enter the spirit realm, and then come out, they'll be on 100% (or near) mana every time.

Next thing... are your healers bombing the heck out of overhealing in the spirit realm? If they're not, they should be. If you're having dps problems and you can't slot in another healer to cover the mana problems (which I'm a bit confused why them have them anyway), then you need all of your dps to make sure they're getting extra 22% (23%?) buff from having their butts overhealed in the spirit realm.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:56 pm
by Fetzie
When are you using the last totem? We were wiping to Berserk at 10-15% until we decided to stop using totems at 30%, hit bloodlust and nuke the boss.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:18 pm
by Sagara
Aaaaaaaand wiping on WotE because the PuG tank can't be assed to get his damage under control and the RL insists we go 2-healer.

I think I'm going into depression...

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:26 pm
by KysenMurrin
Overhealing the hell out of people in spirit realm and not just exiting the spirit realm as early as possible are usually the real fix needed on Gara'jal. Don't have people clicking the button just because it's there - especially not the healers. Healer should be the last one out, the two dps should leave when the timer's low or if they've already hit 21% (far as I remember 21% is the highest I've seen the buff go). And yes, as above, stop taking totems around 30%, and blow heroism for the enrage (I think we actually stopped going in at 40% on our early kills).

If you're cycling people through the totems, they're all coming out with buffs of at least 15% (that's on the low side), and people are not getting killed, but you still can't beat the enrage, then it's an issue of player gear or skill.

It's amazing how much faster the fight gets once you get used to this.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:31 pm
by Fetzie
We kill the first totem and then every 4th totem without anybody going into it. We found that it wasn't worth going down there because there weren't enough (in some cases, any) ghosts to kill and that the dps on the boss was more important at those points.

So:

totem 1: kill
totem 2: group 1
totem 3: group 2
totem 4: group 3
totem 5: kill
totem 6: group 1
totem 7: group 2
totem 8: group 3
totem 9: kill

and so on.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:00 pm
by Sagara
Just bit the bullet and threw another couple of applications. One that is more than a bit daring to Unqualified - Stormrage EU, but hey! Who knows?
If your guild needs another tank on EU-Horde, just ask Joe and Noos for references :-p

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:34 am
by Newsom
Valor capping several characters is getting tedious.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:40 am
by Klaudandus
We killed Whitemane and her lackey so fast that they bugged so got no valor nor credit for having finished the instace...

Although I gotta say it was amusing... from starting the instance to whitemane... it took us about 8-9 mins, maybe even less -- I got lucky that I got paired with a warrior that was doing sustained 130K DPS (150K+ on bosses)

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:41 am
by Fetzie
Newsom wrote:Valor capping several characters is getting tedious.

People actually do that?!

I hardly ever completely valor cap my paladin (at least, not before the end of the ID), my druid is lucky to get more than the VP from HoF1+2 and ToES LFR.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:49 am
by Newsom
I have to on my two main characters, and try to on my other 2 level 90s.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:54 am
by Klaudandus
I valor cap my two chars every week, but then again, I only got two lvl 90s... screw VP capping on more than that.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:44 am
by Newsom
Yeah, think I'm not going to bother on more than 2 any more. It takes too much time even with the 50% valor buff.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:00 am
by Nooska
Valor capping the first is the most tedious.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:12 am
by Teranoid
Wait people try and cap valor on more than one toon?

And people call me a masochist...

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:19 am
by Nooska
Its actually quite painless on a second toon that can do all LFRs; Dungeon+scen+LFR = 225 VP if you have the buff, add in an additional 90 VP for the first set of scen+dungeon and you are looking at doing 4 LFR's with a dungeon and scenario while waiting for the queue, leaving you at 990 VP - can be done in an afternoon if you aren't picky about what lfrs you want to do.

--

Frustration; 16 Lei Shi kills on LFR, using coins on all but 2 attempts (so probably around 20 loot attempts); 2x shoulder token, which isn't even that good (had the 483 shoulders from protectors before that) - I want taht darned gun that they made such a big questline around *sigh*

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:32 am
by Teranoid
Yeah the gun has me wondering what I was thinking switching mains. My shaman at least already had their sha touched wep :\

Blue bow from SM and the Flintlockes on the BMAH went for over 45k last night. No thanks.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:20 am
by Jabari
Nooska wrote:Frustration; 16 Lei Shi kills on LFR, using coins on all but 2 attempts (so probably around 20 loot attempts); 2x shoulder token, which isn't even that good (had the 483 shoulders from protectors before that) - I want taht darned gun that they made such a big questline around *sigh*


Ick, that's no fun. We have a warlock in our guild with a similar story, but even worse as he has 2 possible sha-touched (1h and staff) and can't get either one to drop.

(Aside: the shoulder token is _really_ good if you don't already have the other 4 pieces - 16 second BW is kinda ridiculous... I don't think that one has haste either (unlike the gun :P) so you might be able to dump the set legs (which do) once you get all 5.))

Lei shi just has too much good stuff, unfortunately - gun, shoulder, and trinket. I have 2, never ever going to get the 3rd. *laugh*

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:34 am
by KysenMurrin
Doing my usual round of soloing for mount drops, and hit the 5 instance limit because I went into Firelands on 25 man after it got automatically switched when I did TK. :( Half an hour wait for it to reset.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:41 pm
by Flex
Of course we get the troll guy on the second pull of the night, easily dispatch Spirit Kings and get some solid attempts in on Elegon. Such is life.