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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:59 pm

Levantine wrote:All of our tanks/healers had planned on swapping to maining DD this expansion... It didn't work. :(

it did for me!
unless you count the other guild i raid with... :?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Amirya » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:15 pm

Levantine wrote:All of our tanks/healers had planned on swapping to maining DD this expansion... It didn't work. :(

And all of the tanks/healers who had queued up (allowing the swap to be okayed) are either glaringly silent or have vanished...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby culhag » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:28 pm

Facepalm moment for myself tonight.

I used a bonus roll on Feng heroic, got the Bracers of Six Oxen (yay!)

Then I realized I already have Bonded Soul Bracers.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:37 pm

culhag wrote:Facepalm moment for myself tonight.

I used a bonus roll on Feng heroic, got the Bracers of Six Oxen (yay!)

Then I realized I already have Bonded Soul Bracers.

Wish I had your bad luck =P
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:55 pm

Ended up ragequitting raid & guild.
3 weeks of wiping on Stone Guards normal in the backwater team while your friend is in the main team doing heroics are frustrating enough.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:02 pm

Look at the bright side... you didn't destroy the guild! Hooray for improvement?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:19 pm

It's already self-destructing, I'm the 4th person to leave this week.

Shame cause it was a good guild in Cata.
Oh well any 25 men ally guild on PvE server needs a SP or ret or prot? <.<
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:29 pm

Worldie wrote:It's already self-destructing, I'm the 4th person to leave this week.

Shame cause it was a good guild in Cata.
Oh well any 25 men ally guild on PvE server needs a SP or ret or prot? <.<

you forgot to mention EU
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:46 pm

There's no such thing as non Eu servers!
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:28 pm

Not really a frustration for me, since I don't own an XBOX to even be concerned with it, but that doesn't mean other companies won't try something in the future if this doesn't get squashed.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/11/this-k ... violation/

For the record, I haven't done any verification on the article's claims (and don't know the reliability of kotaku.com)... so it could be complete bullshit.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:17 am

Hey Worldie, care to combine our efforts to find a new place to live?

So the deadline for the second raid team has passed and I have 4 guildies (me included) interested, after the clusterf*ck when the officers (rightfully) decide to limit the first raid team to 12 members instead of the 18 that attended for 3 weeks straight. Guyyyys? Someone's trying to make things woooork!

Good news inside a bad news inside a good news though: Sha dropped a piece of loot. PvP gloves. Just after the HoF Parry/Dodge gloves had dropped in LFR. Still an upgrade, but it felt weird.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby JoeBravo » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:18 am

I fear the guild is gonna loose some more good ppl the coming days :(
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:30 am

JoeBravo wrote:I fear the guild is gonna loose some more good ppl the coming days :(


Nothing against you (I still think you and I both were misled to believe a second group could happen), but I am covering both plans for the last week.

EDIT: no way in Hell I can find a per-spec loot list for LFR outside of the in-game journal. *grumbles about stupid parry/dodge pieces*
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:03 am

These are the items without Critical Strike (i.e. tanking gear) from LFR:

Mogushan Vaults: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=max ... rv=0:0:0:0
Heart of Fear: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=max ... rv=0:0:0:0
Terrace of endless Spring: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=max ... rv=0:0:0:0

Does that help for Prot Paladins?

I sign up for LFR as retribution so that I get the chance for haste pieces (although I respec to prot for garalon, makes kiting easier when you have over 500k life).

I can also confirm that you DO get different stuff if you respec before using your coin. On Tuesday our warrior, who goes DPS on single-tank fights, respecced to protection after killing the boss as fury and got the shield on his bonus roll.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:12 am

Pyrea wrote:These are the items without Critical Strike (i.e. tanking gear) from LFR:

Mogushan Vaults: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=max ... rv=0:0:0:0
Heart of Fear: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=max ... rv=0:0:0:0
Terrace of endless Spring: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=max ... rv=0:0:0:0

Does that help for Prot Paladins?

I sign up for LFR as retribution so that I get the chance for haste pieces (although I respec to prot for garalon, makes kiting easier when you have over 500k life).

I can also confirm that you DO get different stuff if you respec before using your coin. On Tuesday our warrior, who goes DPS on single-tank fights, respecced to protection after killing the boss as fury and got the shield on his bonus roll.


Thanks, but that wasn't exactly what I was looking for :)
What I meant are pieces that the game considers "Prot Paladin loot" vs. "Ret Paladin loot" for LFR purposes. In the Raid Journal, you can filter up the loot list per class/spec, and I'm pretty sure this represents the potential drops from which the game picks a boss' loot. But this information is only available in-game AFAIK.

The idea is: I'm aware the game hands different loot for Ret and Prot spec, so I want to know how I should spec per boss, and ideally even optimise drop utility. Still, thanks for the tip about pre-coin toss respec. Might just come in handy...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:27 am

So found a guild that is in rebuilding phase after taking a break in Cata. My fellow tank loves his dodge/parry...admitted to keyboard turning and uses zero (yes...ZERO) addons.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:27 am

Rule of thumb that seems to hold up after looking through the loot lists: If the item has crit and/or haste on it, it is ret specific in LFR.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby JoeBravo » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:30 am

Pyrea wrote:Rule of thumb that seems to hold up after looking through the loot lists: If the item has crit and/or haste on it, it is ret specific in LFR.


then the question remains: where do hit/exp+mastery items fit in?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby lythac » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:36 am

JoeBravo wrote:
Pyrea wrote:Rule of thumb that seems to hold up after looking through the loot lists: If the item has crit and/or haste on it, it is ret specific in LFR.


then the question remains: where do hit/exp+mastery items fit in?


They would be tagged as both Prot and Ret.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:38 am

JoeBravo wrote:
Pyrea wrote:Rule of thumb that seems to hold up after looking through the loot lists: If the item has crit and/or haste on it, it is ret specific in LFR.


then the question remains: where do hit/exp+mastery items fit in?



Had my warrior dps buddy get the 1h weap from Elegon in LFR. I'm yet to see a tank get it though.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:42 am

lythac wrote:
JoeBravo wrote:
Pyrea wrote:Rule of thumb that seems to hold up after looking through the loot lists: If the item has crit and/or haste on it, it is ret specific in LFR.


then the question remains: where do hit/exp+mastery items fit in?


They would be tagged as both Prot and Ret.


Yep.

Basically:

Hit and expertise: Prot and Ret
Hit/expertise and mastery : Prot and Ret
Hit/expertise and haste/crit: Ret only
Hit/expertise and dodge/parry: Prot only
Dodge/parry and mastery: Prot only

So if you want Haste, mastery, hit, expertise, you are better off rolling as Retribution. Which I think is stupid.

Had my warrior dps buddy get the 1h weap from Elegon in LFR. I'm yet to see a tank get it though.


That is because the 1h weapon from Elegon is both for Fury (Single-Minded Fury) and Protection, same goes for the Sha-Touched 1h sword.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:44 am

Great! Now I can get started on the math. Thanks all!
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby jere » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:00 am

Fenrìr wrote:Had my warrior dps buddy get the 1h weap from Elegon in LFR. I'm yet to see a tank get it though.

I got it this last Tuesday in LFR. I had to retransmog my gear into T5 so I would have something close to the graphic (not a perfect fit, but looks better than other sets I have with the axe)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby valura » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:58 am

According to the craplock and huntard in last nights Shado-Pan Monastery (normal) run I am a lying sack of shit that doesn't know anything about the game, I don't know how to tank, and I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

The following statements of my part were the cause for the abovementioned outrage:
I called the huntard a slacker for doing only 7k avg DPS.
I called the huntard out for using a bear in tank spec with growl on, coz appearently pets sometimes wander of and pull groups far away even without growl or without being instructed to do so.
I called the huntard and the craplock out for standing in the purple zones and the skull ring on the last boss, since everybody knows those are very difficult to notice and almost impossible to avoid dying from.
I had no reason to curse after the healer ninja'ed the tanking boots, coz healers always get priority over the rest.
After wiping 3 times on the last boss, I had no reason to be angry at them (the craplock and huntard), even tho they died on the first set of globes/skull circle, since I clearly can't tank for shit, coz if I were better at it they wouldn't have died.
I am a bad person for calling the craplock an idiot after he pulled 3 groups of mobs while running in, resulting in another wipe, since "OOOPS" is appearently a perfectly sound apology, and it should be accepted as such.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:02 am

Follow up.
We lost one of our tanks today, apparently it was negotiated yesterday that the one dps and this tank moved over as a team - still haven't heard a word from either of them.
So now we are down to 2 tanks again, with niethe rbeing able to promise 100% attendance.. do I really have to go back to tanking, which I said I didn't feel was fair - raid leading reauires me to be there, 2 tank spots means 1 is blocked whenever I'm there, don't think thats fair to the other 2 tanks - and we need 2 due to my real life responsibilities that dictate a slightly above 67% attendance for a 3 raid week on thu/sun/tue when averaged over a few months (december and june/july are a lot less booked though)
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