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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Paxen » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:19 am

To get into heroics, you buy crafted pvp gear. It's ilvl 450, and with the way pvp gear works now it's equivalent to pve gear with added free resilience and pvp power, so it beats anything from quests. It's more than enough to reach the minimum ilvl, and it's also more than enough to trivialize the content. You get some crit rating, but that can be reforged.

Alternatively you can buy Mastercrafted Spiritguard gear, if you want avoidance.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:34 am

jp gear doesnt require rep anymore... and since there wasnt a jp reset, if you had 4000 at the end of cata, you still have those 4000 jp when you turn in 90
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nikachelle » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:38 am

I haven't spent a single justice point this expansion. I'm sitting at the 4k cap and it's certainly not being used on anything. I also didn't use crafted gear either. If you didn't do Dread Wastes (all of the zone), you're at a severe disadvantage gearwise for getting into heroics. As it was, I left Dread Wastes well over the ilevel requirement for heroics.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Rhiannon » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:12 am

Mozen wrote:I was under the impression that the dailies awarded valor, not justice.

I'm at a loss where to get all the justice points to buy the 458 gear so I can get into heroics. It looks like the only way to not do the rep grind and gear up is via crafted 450 gear, or maybe finishing all the quests in Dreaded Wastes for the 437 quest gear, plus some 440 blues and a few 450 dungeon pieces.

There are only 2 iLv 450 plate tanking dungeon drops (one of which is a trinket) from only 1 regular level 90 dungeon.

I must admit I don't understand how people got geared up so quickly in the first week without crafted gear. Where do people get all their justice points from?


There's 450 pieces for 3-4 slots from dread wastes quest chains.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:25 am

Paxen wrote:To get into heroics, you buy crafted pvp gear. It's ilvl 450, and with the way pvp gear works now it's equivalent to pve gear with added free resilience and pvp power, so it beats anything from quests. It's more than enough to reach the minimum ilvl, and it's also more than enough to trivialize the content. You get some crit rating, but that can be reforged.

Alternatively you can buy Mastercrafted Spiritguard gear, if you want avoidance.


Or you could just do Townlong Steppes and Dread Wastes from 88-90 and have an ilevel high enough to go straight into heroics without buying a single thing.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Mozen » Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:50 pm

Ah, I've always only moved into a new zone after getting the quest achievement for a zone, and this way I always ding 90 after Kun-Lai Summit. Never touched anything in Townlong Steppes, too. Then I suppose I got tied up trying to expand my farm asap. Haha.

Which reminds me. My alt druid got 0 experience from Krasarang Wilds because a GM didn't pay attention while doing his/her work. It's a long story:

One pally guildie questioned about where his Plate Specialization went to. So I checked and found that I no longer have it either. I logged into my druid and sure enough, the druid has Leather Specialization. So I contacted the GM.

Initially the GM said that all armor specialization have been folded into the Armor skill, and nobody has the specialization skill for each class of armor anymore. I pointed out that my druid still has it, so the GM logged into my druid to check. A while later, he/she said they'll report this to Blizzard US (I play on the Taiwan realms).

It was at that point my druid bugged and could no longer receive experience from anything. I think I had just finished the Four Winds and was moving into Krasarang. But I didn't notice the problem untill at the end of Krasarang, I started feeling odd that level 87 took so long. Then I noticed the problem.

Petitioning the GM in-game and on battle.net both resulted in the response that "the GM in question acted according to the rules of the game and user agreement, hence we cannot compensate you".

There you go, probably about 18,000,000 experience gone, just because one GM was careless when he/she handled my account.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:57 pm

All i can say is OUCH
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nikachelle » Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:05 pm

Good grief!
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Paxen » Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:03 pm

My monk left Townlong after killing the Sha there, and dinged 90 about halfway through Dread Wastes. Buying a complete set of Contender's gear was a clear upgrade (and the Monk staff and Brewfest trinkets helped too of course - I think the healers were annoyed when I grinded those as an 89 tank!).

I've tanked several heroics now in that gear with no issues, so I wouldn't say I gimped myself by not finishing the zones. But the path to LFR and (most importantly) Challenge Modes looks to be harder.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nikachelle » Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:12 pm

I have done about a thousand dailies so far this expansion. It takes me about three hours every day to get them done on my paladin (prot spec, as my os is holy) and it's tedious and painstaking but I persevere. So when I leveled my shaman up to 90, the last thing I wanted to do was more dailies. However, I wanted those leatherworking leg armor thingies from Golden Lotus so I decided I might as well start in on them. I was just finishing up my dailies when all of a sudden the dailies reset and my quest log was filled with:

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SO. FILLED. WITH. RAGE.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:48 pm

We've been discussing that in the Missed Memo thread. I had a completed daily for AC (the bully quest) get removed just as I was about to go turn it in.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Mozen » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:19 pm

Ouch. That is really keyboard smashing stuff. Why the hell would they do that? Did the want so desperately to make sure every single player had the same dailies?

The only reason I can think of is something tied to the treasure chest from the end of the dailies quest line. Maybe there was some exploit back in beta?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Rhiannon » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:27 am

Mozen wrote:Ouch. That is really keyboard smashing stuff. Why the hell would they do that? Did the want so desperately to make sure every single player had the same dailies?

The only reason I can think of is something tied to the treasure chest from the end of the dailies quest line. Maybe there was some exploit back in beta?


Well for Vale at least different quests can happen in the same place but in different phases/with different mobs up, so it's probably to avoid a situation where people are unable to complete quests due to that phase not being currently active.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nikachelle » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:57 am

Rhiannon wrote:
Mozen wrote:Ouch. That is really keyboard smashing stuff. Why the hell would they do that? Did the want so desperately to make sure every single player had the same dailies?

The only reason I can think of is something tied to the treasure chest from the end of the dailies quest line. Maybe there was some exploit back in beta?


Well for Vale at least different quests can happen in the same place but in different phases/with different mobs up, so it's probably to avoid a situation where people are unable to complete quests due to that phase not being currently active.

Except that the Tol Barad dailies were like that (in the bg area) - although the area wasn't phased, you were still locked out of some of the underground areas but still kept the quests in your log.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nikachelle » Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:00 am

Skye1013 wrote:We've been discussing that in the Missed Memo thread. I had a completed daily for AC (the bully quest) get removed just as I was about to go turn it in.

Heh, this is the second time I've missed reading something important in that thread... what a fitting title for that thread.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:45 pm

Got lucky, the Mast/Haste epic ring dropped in SH.

Why a frustration? Got called out by a Warrior, and no amount of explanation got him to admit it could be a decent drop for me.

Like my guildie healer said, he got smashed constantly on the Herod wannabee, so it probably was in better hands that way, though :p
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Andurin » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:09 pm

Feeling these bonus coins are a joke... 11 rolls in LFR, 10 gold and 1 item from it... Some boots. To bad the quest reward from Sha of Anger was better...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby JoeBravo » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:32 am

Andurin wrote:Feeling these bonus coins are a joke... 11 rolls in LFR, 10 gold and 1 item from it... Some boots. To bad the quest reward from Sha of Anger was better...


I'm quite pleased with the boots I got from spirit kings bonus roll tyvm. :P
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:27 am

217 rep from exalted with Golden Lotus after dailies..

Edit: which means at least from what I'm gathering from the posts on the forums the stupid exalted neck quest isn't available until the day AFTER you hit exalted. Joy.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:39 am

Think what I saw was that you can't start the quest chain if you've finished the dailies for that day; if you get it on your first couple quests you might be ok.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:18 am

I just hit exalted with GL today, and could easily do the neck quest in one go. Don't know if its been hotfixed or what, but questgiver was at the Golden Pagoda when I returned.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:31 am

Well that's good to hear. Was pretty apprehensive given that this morning I spent HALF AN HOUR trying to do one of the Shado-pan daily achieves to not take any damage during the quest finished it without even being targeted by a mob and still didn't get credit.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:43 am

Andurin wrote:Feeling these bonus coins are a joke... 11 rolls in LFR, 10 gold and 1 item from it... Some boots. To bad the quest reward from Sha of Anger was better...


I'm running 40-50% loot on the rolls sofar I think, it's all RNG, sadly.

Also...

Make sure you are rolling only on bosses that have loot for you. I've seen a few ranting about the rolls with the impression that it's one huge loot table, which it's not. Don't roll on bosses that don't have anything for you. (Hint, tokens are much better spend on Sha or Galleon once you have a few LFR items).
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:32 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/italian-court-convicts-7-no-quake-warning-153822654.html

as someone studying geology (hopefully)
this makes my head hurt

there is no way to predict earthquakes, and it scares me that someone actually prosecuted on that basis
signs can change daily, even minute by minute, and all they can say is one is imminent, not this is when it will happen
just like avalanches or volcanoes, all you can say is HEY there are very strong signs of one happening in the near future!
be smart and go away until it does! dont be a fucking dumbass and wait here to die!

and this is if there IS advance warning
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:35 pm

bldavis wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/italian-court-convicts-7-no-quake-warning-153822654.html

as someone studying geology (hopefully)
this makes my head hurt

there is no way to predict earthquakes, and it scares me that someone actually prosecuted on that basis
signs can change daily, even minute by minute, and all they can say is one is imminent, not this is when it will happen
just like avalanches or volcanoes, all you can say is HEY there are very strong signs of one happening in the near future!
be smart and go away until it does! dont be a fucking dumbass and wait here to die!

and this is if there IS advance warning


or you can buy real estate in arizona and nevada and wait for the big one and then cash in when your property is now beachfront =P

Also disappointed no one has used
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