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Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:27 am
by djlar
Bad LFR night, instant queues for DPS but the groups didn't fill, got started runs already (2/6) all the time, I declined several, entered one, a wipe and group disbanded, kept getting 2/6 runs for 30 mins of tries, then decided to enter, got full group, they started the fight as I zoned, I couldn't do anything but die to Gas cloud, got credit for the kill but no chance of loot so I won't get to roll on Will of Emperor this week again..

The rest of the 5 bosses, also no drops, not even a sigil, used up 3 of 4 coins I had, nothing there, just gold..

Sha of Anger.. no drop, used last coin = gold

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:11 am
by halabar
djlar wrote:The rest of the 5 bosses, also no drops, not even a sigil, used up 3 of 4 coins I had, nothing there, just gold..


I've got 6 slots that are still 463 on my spriest, but after looking at the loot tables, decided that Will, Sha, and Galleon (if he ever spawns on my server, it's been rumored that he hasn't shown at all), are the only bosses currently available that I'll use a roll on. The other bosses are down to 0-1 items that I might be able to use, so the percentage chance of a bonus role being useful is greatlly diminished.

Really want to save up the coins for the next tier of LFR.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:40 am
by Winkle
halabar wrote:
djlar wrote:The rest of the 5 bosses, also no drops, not even a sigil, used up 3 of 4 coins I had, nothing there, just gold..


I've got 6 slots that are still 463 on my spriest, but after looking at the loot tables, decided that Will, Sha, and Galleon (if he ever spawns on my server, it's been rumored that he hasn't shown at all), are the only bosses currently available that I'll use a roll on. The other bosses are down to 0-1 items that I might be able to use, so the percentage chance of a bonus role being useful is greatlly diminished.

Really want to save up the coins for the next tier of LFR.


you can only have a maximum of 10 gold coins at anyone time.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:44 am
by halabar
Winkle wrote:you can only have a maximum of 10 gold coins at anyone time.


True, but I only have 4 currently, so saving some for next week(?) when the next wing of LFR opens is a good thing.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:52 am
by djlar
Next wing is open right now.....

You mean the second raid? (not Mogu-shan Vaults), that's maybe a month away..

Yeah Galleon is like 72 hour CD right now.. (at least it what it took on my realm to spawn), begged, tried to pay for a spot and no invite..

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:57 am
by halabar
djlar wrote:Next wing is open right now.....

You mean the second raid? (not Mogu-shan Vaults), that's maybe a month away..

Yeah Galleon is like 72 hour CD right now.. (at least it what it took on my realm to spawn), begged, tried to pay for a spot and no invite..


Yeah, the next raid..

So yeah, might save up some tokens, and then use them so each week I can reset to 10, ready the next raid to open. With the currently available bosses, the only LFR one I'll roll on will be Will, due to the chance of the weapon.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Klaudandus
not meeting the gearcheck on gajara or whatever his name is as a raidgroup

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:22 am
by Hespherus
Klaudandus wrote:not meeting the gearcheck on gajara or whatever his name is as a raidgroup

Normal or HC? If its normal, are you 2 or 3 healing it?

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:14 am
by JoeBravo
Klaudandus wrote:not meeting the gearcheck on gajara or whatever his name is as a raidgroup


that's what we thought at first too. ended up being due to a wrong strategy.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:12 am
by Klaudandus
3 healing it, is that the wrong strategy?

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:26 am
by benebarba
The last few weeks of trying to organize guild 5-mans/scenarios on our usual raid nights, to try to get us ready to raid, has been like pulling teeth. Heck, even counting trying to do normals to help people level hasn't really helped open up the pool any. We have a few players who seem to have no interest in anything outside a heroic (so they can gear themselves up).

I really hope we actually enter a raid as a group before the first round of nerfs hits. But I am beginning to doubt it will happen. Especially since exactly 1 main healer has been showing up, and that sporadically and one of the others I think wants a tank slot instead (which sucks, because I was asked to MT - but I'd be the only one with a DPS offspec for single-tank fights...).

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:28 am
by Passionario
Passionario wrote:
Sagara wrote:Welcome to the club, we give t-shirt.
Though I tend to rationalize that I'm the newbie in my new guild, so need to prove my mettle first.


I've been an officer in this guild since Vanilla. My wife was the original founder and GM.
None of us have yet to get invited to anything beyond LFR and Sha of Anger runs. So yeah.

...Maybe I should just make my own raid, with blackjack and deathknights.

Tried doing just that. Only 7 people showed up, and 1 of them left for another 10-man almost immediately. :(

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:56 am
by Fetzie
Klaudandus wrote:3 healing it, is that the wrong strategy?

We tried with three, kept hitting the enrage. Switched to two, killed him.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:21 am
by Klaudandus
And now AskMrRobot went full derp on the optimization -- their control/mastery build has me shedding more than 5% of my mastery -- and actually depends on what trinkets I use -- in some cases it has me shedding close to 6.5% of my mastery

*facedesk*

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:24 am
by Levantine
MrRobot has been completely derptastic for me for a while now. It keeps telling me to shed all of my Haste for Mastery as well as sitting my comfortably 2% overcapped on hit. Something's obviously funky there.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:27 am
by Klaudandus
it had been working seemingly ok last week -- it just went full derp for me this morning.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:37 am
by Bellanka
Guildie posted this in our guild Facebook group, but a thousand times this: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... 746?page=1

Having Galleon outright stolen from you twice, especially at low health, the BMAH BS, and so much more.

I hope these nozzles get banned.

EDIT: And even when we've offered to share Galleon mid-kill, by inviting them to our raid or having one of our members drop and join theirs, which has shared World Boss kills for as long as I remember, and still this ... ugh.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:47 am
by Klaudandus
Vodka being jackasses?

ALso, how do you steal Galleon?

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:55 am
by Bellanka
Klaudandus wrote:Vodka being jackasses?

ALso, how do you steal Galleon?


I haven't had a single positive experience with them.

Rockbiter taunt chain the boss to reset, then have your raid stack AoEs on the spawn point.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:20 am
by benebarba
game mechanic frustration: the oodles of stuns that seem to be flying around in 5-mans (don't mind the re-targeting in scenarios... it makes total sense there, and I haven't been in a raid yet). I can only assume it is an attempt to:
1) convince people to use CC in a way that wouldn't cripple a group with poor/no CC options (not sure that exists, but I think it technically could still)
2) get healers to choose heal or dispell
3) get DPS to care about aggro again without putting it all on the tank. (yeah, I couldn't keep a straight face :P)

while those ideas are all well and good, it kinda sucks to be in a place where no matter how awesome you are at active mitigation for your class, it gets tossed right out the window on cooldown and every few seconds no amount of tanking skill will help you. Or am I just completely missing something?

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:29 am
by KysenMurrin
Bellanka wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Vodka being jackasses?

ALso, how do you steal Galleon?


I haven't had a single positive experience with them.

Rockbiter taunt chain the boss to reset, then have your raid stack AoEs on the spawn point.

Pretty sure that's what happens on every server every time Galleon spawns. Blizzard just replies it's part of the game.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:31 am
by Klaudandus
That isn't part of the game -- that is intentional griefing.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:40 am
by valura
Klaudandus wrote:That isn't part of the game -- that is intentional griefing.


Confirmed. Intentional disrupting normal gaming experiences to "steal" a mob from a player or group of players is considered a bannable offense. The only exclusing to this rule is killing a player during such an encounter on a PVP server.

Preventing one or more players of experiencing the game by deliberately kiting mobs into their AoE, or PvP-flagging oneself to get hit by a non-flagged player so he/she can be killed and the mob be stolen, etc... is an offense which can (and likely will) lead to a 4-72 hr ban.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:56 am
by Rhiannon
KysenMurrin wrote:
Bellanka wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Vodka being jackasses?

ALso, how do you steal Galleon?


I haven't had a single positive experience with them.

Rockbiter taunt chain the boss to reset, then have your raid stack AoEs on the spawn point.

Pretty sure that's what happens on every server every time Galleon spawns. Blizzard just replies it's part of the game.


Using a taunt mechanic that bypasses a boss' taunt immunity isn't really defensible as being part of the game.

Re: Post your Frustrations.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:35 am
by Klaudandus
I would say that every time you do galleon, launch your combatlog, it should record who is chain rockbiting taunting and submit the file to blizz in your ticket.