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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:11 am

Big list of quest and item hotfixes today... no mention of fixing it so people who lost the Tongue of Ba-Shon can complete Kun Lai Summit.

(Doubly irritating not just for the quests, but because the last item I need for Lorewalkers Exalted is phased out until I complete one more quest.)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:31 am

After two days of playing, still stuck at 85. (4 hours total)

Of course, it's understandable that my pregnant wife is tired fast, but I'm itching to just "one more hour".
Trying to level up an alt to our point in the quests to "free" my main.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nordix » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:58 am

So I was doing business on an ethnic client's roof when I noticed his dog literally PISSING into my toolbox on the ground.

My jimmies were never had this much overrustle.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby djlar » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:23 am

Managed to get to i456, got ONE drop out of 10 heroics ran before raid time, was able to amass enough JPs to buy some bracers from JP vendor (oh and the i456 was because of the hotfix that converted my i450s to i458s)..

But still, I wasn't even considered for the raid team, I was ready, fully enchanted and gemmed, pots and flasks ready, fight studied.. they didn't even mentioned me at all when raid invites were going on..

IDK but we were 10, some guy came out of nowhere, must have been a GM's buddy, he even got a MONK to 90 before me and i463 very quick, I think he played like 16 hours a day for that..

Anyway I was really hoping to start fresh on the guild and raid, but I wasn't even on bench status... time to look for another guild... perhaps a 25 man one, at least there's more chances to get in the raid..
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby twinkfist » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:33 am

just got my new comp so i have been able to play. read about the hammer of ten thunders and where it spawns. wasted time waiting for it to spawn...i can really frustrate myself waiting for things to show up.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Taeron » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:09 am

So... I do a full AoE rotation on trash, monk jumps in, presses one button and he's MILES ahead on threat on ALL mobs. So that's trash tanking for paladin tanks in MoP? Just... sit in the corner and wait for better tanks to do it?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:19 am

Taeron wrote:So... I do a full AoE rotation on trash, monk jumps in, presses one button and he's MILES ahead on threat on ALL mobs. So that's trash tanking for paladin tanks in MoP? Just... sit in the corner and wait for better tanks to do it?


According to the hotfix, and the bluepost on it, yes.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:44 am

Klaudandus wrote:
Taeron wrote:So... I do a full AoE rotation on trash, monk jumps in, presses one button and he's MILES ahead on threat on ALL mobs. So that's trash tanking for paladin tanks in MoP? Just... sit in the corner and wait for better tanks to do it?


According to the hotfix, and the bluepost on it, yes.


I thought the nerf was only to SOT and censure, not SOR which is the AOE seal. AS and HW got buffed, as well.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:50 am

HW's damage is diminished by the fact that it's inversely proportional to the number of mobs you're hitting. Really good when you're hitting a single target, not so much when you're hitting 3 or more.

Would rather have HotR go up, and perhaps have Cons tick from the moment it lands? maybe?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:00 pm

Klaudandus wrote:HW's damage is diminished by the fact that it's inversely proportional to the number of mobs you're hitting. Really good when you're hitting a single target, not so much when you're hitting 3 or more.

Would rather have HotR go up, and perhaps have Cons tick from the moment it lands? maybe?

I think I'd rather them just fix vengence to something not dumb and only do minor balance tweaks to abilities ;)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:03 pm

Point there, but I don't see that happening.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby benebarba » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:09 pm

Klaudandus wrote:Point there, but I don't see that happening.

Me either. Maybe another expansion or 5 and someone will realize that some of these group/solo damage 'issues' may be being caused by the rather convoluted band-aid that is vengence.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Passionario » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:16 pm

djlar wrote:But still, I wasn't even considered for the raid team, I was ready, fully enchanted and gemmed, pots and flasks ready, fight studied.. they didn't even mentioned me at all when raid invites were going on..


Same here. :(
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Era » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:10 pm

Urges to play WoW (I quit).
I want to return, but I know the game doesn't really love me and won't treat me the way I deserve.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Lieris » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:14 pm

Era wrote:Urges to play WoW (I quit).
I want to return, but I know the game doesn't really love me and won't treat me the way I deserve.


I quit too and while I am sure I would enjoy levelling to 90 I am sticking to my guns. If you want the game to change you should stick to yours.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:26 pm

For some reason, my warrior buddy kept peeling the boss off of me.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fenrìr » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:35 am

Yea...I dunno what it is about warriors and doing just as much threat as me. I wonder if they're still in D stance without realizing it.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:03 am

It's a common issue for dualspecced warriors to not notice they are still in Def stance. Have had it happen to our guildies a few times as well (also the other way around, tank in battle stance)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Era » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:18 am

Lieris wrote:I quit too and while I am sure I would enjoy levelling to 90 I am sticking to my guns. If you want the game to change you should stick to yours.


Yeah. I don't see myself returning this expansion. Maybe the next, if it seems interesting.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby degre » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:08 am

Lieris wrote:
Era wrote:Urges to play WoW (I quit).
I want to return, but I know the game doesn't really love me and won't treat me the way I deserve.


I quit too and while I am sure I would enjoy levelling to 90 I am sticking to my guns. If you want the game to change you should stick to yours.

Don't think will change much with you people leaving, apparently many more like it.

http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/pr ... id=6147208
'...he game’s global player base passed 10 million subscribers, with growth across all major regions.'


Nothing personal, if you want to leave it's your call, I respect your choice and mostly I don't care, just a statement.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby mavfin » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:58 am

degre wrote:
Lieris wrote:
Era wrote:Urges to play WoW (I quit).
I want to return, but I know the game doesn't really love me and won't treat me the way I deserve.


I quit too and while I am sure I would enjoy levelling to 90 I am sticking to my guns. If you want the game to change you should stick to yours.

Don't think will change much with you people leaving, apparently many more like it.

http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/pr ... id=6147208
'...he game’s global player base passed 10 million subscribers, with growth across all major regions.'


Nothing personal, if you want to leave it's your call, I respect your choice and mostly I don't care, just a statement.


Yeah, I think the game has moved on past some of you. I wouldn't expect the game to conform to your niche. I'd find another that embraces what you want if I were you two (Lieris and Era). The game's *never again* going to do all the special things you want just for raiders.

(Not trying to be insulting. If you don't wish to come back, that's your prerogative. I just wouldn't expect the game to change to fit your wishes.)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Winkle » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:11 am

Completed Glory of the Pandaria Hero, received sexy new Cloud Serpent mount, can't ride it because I'm not exalted with the Cloud Serpent faction....doh!
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Era » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:19 am

I feel the reposts of my original post loses some of it's value when it gets reposted without the "I'm a pretty princess"-picture that came with it. >_>

Anyway, yeah, I understand that the game is headed in a more casual direction and that it's not likely to turn back - But I still don't understand why it's not possible to "love everyone equally", let the hardcores have some fun and not just pamper the average player. Anyone who's ever accomplished something in life knows that it hurts when your accomplishments get diminished in some manner. I'm fairly sure Usain Bolt would be quite pissed if the required running distance was nerfed with 30% down to 70 meters and everyone who completed the new distance at his old time or better got to call themselves world champions. Sure, he could just re-do it faster than the rest, but he'd still only get the same reward as the rest. What's the point of competition if there's no winner? What's the point of doing challenging things if there's no challenge? Then you're just doing things. Sheep do things. I don't to be a sheep, I want to be a pretty princess (see aforementioned picture) and accomplish things to the best of my ability.

I realise this discussion is as dead a horse as dead horses get, but a world that discourages competition is a world that'll get left behind. It's a concept that holds true in a simulated world as much as it does for the real world.

I don't expect the game to conform to my niche, I humbly beg it to not exclude my niche.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:58 am

Era wrote:I don't expect the game to conform to my niche, I humbly beg it to not exclude my niche.


What is your niche? Challenge for challenge sake or challenge for greater reward? Sounds like it is greater reward, not sure that has been Blizzard's design goal since removing the attunement requirements for Tier 5 and 6.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:01 am

Don't the "Cutting Edge" achievements make up for the whole nerf-content-over-time thing, anyway? I mean, you do the content the hard way, you get an achievement that says and will always say you did it that way, and no one who raids nerfed content gets the same. Problem solved?
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