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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:43 am

Ha. Guess that means she won't be a hero too.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby bldavis » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:35 am

KysenMurrin wrote:Ha. Guess that means she won't be a hero too.

that and they still dont have monk or dk heroes yet, so even if they add dark rangers as a class, doesnt mean they will be added as heroes in hearthstone
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:39 am

"Yet."

I just assume they're saving the other classes for an expansion set.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Worldie » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:08 am

It wouldnt make any sense to make a Expansion Set for a F2P game :P
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:19 am

I'm sure they'd find a way. Do a big patch release of new classes and also new ways to spend money.

They need to expand the game every now and then to keep players from collecting everything and no longer needing to buy packs.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby halabar » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:56 am

KysenMurrin wrote:You know, if they introduced "Dark Ranger" (rather than Demon Hunter) they could add Sylvanas to Hearthstone. ;)


Demon hunter or dark ranger, Hearthstone does mean that if they do add a new class to WoW, it will need to be added to Hearthstone as well. Which will likely slow down or stop new classes, but still gives the option for new races.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Paxen » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:45 am

halabar wrote:Demon hunter or dark ranger, Hearthstone does mean that if they do add a new class to WoW, it will need to be added to Hearthstone as well. Which will likely slow down or stop new classes, but still gives the option for new races.


Adding a new hero to hearthstone should be orders of magnitude easier than introducing a new class to WoW...
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:54 am

They have no obligation to add all of them or do so immediately (they only have the 9 original classes right now, for example).
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby bldavis » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:23 am

KysenMurrin wrote:They have no obligation to add all of them or do so immediately (they only have the 9 original classes right now, for example).

which is what i was trying to get at :)
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Era » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:36 pm

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A recurring vilain, someone that we got rid of a loooooong time ago for trucking with demons. Someone whose name still resonates everytime we see the Dark Portal:

Let Gul'dan come back, and *stay* alive like the backstabbing opportunist hiding in the woodworks he is.


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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Belloc » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:23 pm

Worldie wrote:It wouldnt make any sense to make a Expansion Set for a F2P game :P

It would make perfect sense, actually. Just put it up on the store for $15 or 1000 gold (or something like that). That way you can either buy it or earn it.

Of course, it's way too early for them to be trademarking anything related to a Hearthstone expansion when the game isn't even due out until next year.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Worldie » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:35 pm

Someone edited the "warlordsofdraenor" domain.

Though it can tecnically be anyone, still more water to the boiler.

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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Worldie » Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:16 pm

MMO-Champion named an entire forum after "Warlords of Draenor". I think he must have had some confirmation beyond just the trademark at this point to make this move.


Can't wait for Blizzcon today!!!!
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Sagara » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:06 am

It was pretty obvious for a couple of days now. The only alternative would have been another product, but Draenor is clearly WoW-related, Hearthstone is too early for an expac, and the movie would not cater to the common moviegoer with a name like that.

What's now left in the air is the storyline:
Is it an "new" part of Outland that was less damaged?
Are we going to broach themes left hanging after BC, namely the Arrakoa, Mok'Nathal, Etherals, surviving orcs and draenei?
Are we going to continue the story from BC and see more of the peeps we met in Shattrah, and possibly more of the Legion? What about Turalyon and Alleria?

Or are we going for a complete 180°? With Draenor being the former name of Outland, and the Bronze Dragonflight probably in complete dissaray with the evens of 4.3 and 5.4, is that time-travel story going to happen?
After all, there ARE Timewalker dungeons programmed in the game, and people had supposed that the "super-duper" feature GC had talked about for 5.4 had actually been dropped.
Make 2 and 2 fit togheter, what if 5.4 was supposed to be both SoO and WoD's foreshadowing via time-related weirdness on the fringes?

A daring scenario would ask: why not both? Who's to say that Draenor isn't suffering from wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff, sending us to explore a continent that popped up à la Timeless Isle, where we actually encounter elements of the current storyline and of one (or multiple!!) past stories.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Worldie » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:27 am

There's 100% going to be something about time travel. The whole Timeless Isle storyline and the ending about Stormwind devastated by some "black shaish stuff" that also reminds me of Infinite Dragonflight have been given a lot of importance in 5.4.
Also, Wrathion storyline clearly hints to the Legion (or some other major disaster incoming).

I can totally see something that has to do with both the Legion and the Timeways. Not necessarly linked to each other (see mogu vs sha storylines, or ulduar storyline in WotLK that had nothing to do with the Lich King).
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Sagara » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:35 am

Worldie wrote:There's 100% going to be something about time travel. The whole Timeless Isle storyline and the ending about Stormwind devastated by some "black shaish stuff" that also reminds me of Infinite Dragonflight have been given a lot of importance in 5.4.
Also, Wrathion storyline clearly hints to the Legion (or some other major disaster incoming).

I can totally see something that has to do with both the Legion and the Timeways. Not necessarly linked to each other (see mogu vs sha storylines, or ulduar storyline in WotLK that had nothing to do with the Lich King).


Hell, throw in the Old Gods for a nice little Melee à Quatre.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Andurin » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:49 am

Sagara wrote:A daring scenario would ask: why not both? Who's to say that Draenor isn't suffering from wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff, sending us to explore a continent that popped up à la Timeless Isle, where we actually encounter elements of the current storyline and of one (or multiple!!) past stories.


I see what you did there... Also making new engineering items? Screwdrivers with sonic technologies? Some kind of portalble blue boxes? :p
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:00 am

I could go for an alternate timeline... in which Thrall, Varok Saurfang and all the other major orcs are evil, led by Dranosh Saurfang, and are oppressing Draenor? That way you can have a Draenei stronghold and AU Velen and Velen!Prime can do fusion dance and have more Draenei story in the game?
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby melisandyr » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:02 am

I worry when I see a lot of the rumours popping up about alternative realities and time travel, as this is really hard to build into a credible narrative. This is amply demonstrated by how difficult the Dr Who executive producers have found building the narrative arcs across the past few seasons. It really is much better when it is contained in a small doses and focuses on the heart of the show - which is a strong adventure story.

Highly personal reflection, so it might be shared by everyone.

I am really excited by the possibility of Turalyon and Alleria being rediscovered - and think it would be fun if the three Windrunner sisters took the core of the narrative for this expansion (although I would be annoyed if they turn Sylvanus into the prime villain).

I can also see that it is hard to think of a genuine idea to propel the story forward if they have to reuse here's another unexplored and undiscovered landmass that was lost in: the mists, through a portal, over the sea, down the back of grandma's sofa (delete as appropriate) if they don't feel the time was right for a Naga or Emerald Dream expansion. The potential for an arc including cleansing Norzdormu, preventing the murder of his consort as we saw in the hourglass could also be quite interesting if the prime mover is revealed to be the Legion.

I do think the less Garrosh has to do with things the better though. I wish they'd just put him out to grass (feel there's a good Tauren joke here, but can't quite get there).

I guess we'll know in a few hours!
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:05 am

There will be no Emerald Dream expansion, they closed the book on that in the horrible Stormrage book.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby melisandyr » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:13 am

I must admit, I've never been brave enough to read a warcraft novel. Very arrogantly of me, I assume that what goes on in my own head is better than the vision they can conjure from the page & written word. I do like some of the fan fiction pieces though, in short story doses.

Makes sense about the Emerald Dream.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Winkle » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:37 am

I haven't read the books either, in fact i know very little warcraft lore. It's all a bit hocus pocus and crazy for me tbh, MoP's really the first expansion where i've felt i've actually been able to follow the story arc just via the in game experience.

In that regard i assume i'm probably in the majority, personally i'm just looking forward to more raiding and building upon the strength's of this expansion.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Worldie » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:46 am

Klaudandus wrote:There will be no Emerald Dream expansion, they closed the book on that in the horrible Stormrage book.

Didn't the Emeral Dream disappear when Ysera became mortal anyway?
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Sagara » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:56 am

Most probably not. We don't know what the ED is, but we know that Ysera was appointed to guard it, not create it. it's probaly still out there, and Druids are probably handling it for now.
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Re: "Warlords of Draenor"

Postby Winkle » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:05 am

Worldie wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:There will be no Emerald Dream expansion, they closed the book on that in the horrible Stormrage book.

Didn't the Emeral Dream disappear when Ysera became mortal anyway?


According to this: http://wowpedia.org/Emerald_Dream she just happened to mosey on back to Azeroth to help out, apprently the ED is still doing the rounds, just that not many people can get there these days.
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