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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Treck » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:06 am

2x Emp AVS was a bug pre SMV alpha, it always rolled emp AVS, but the 2nd time i think you always got emp judgement.
The first 2 was not random the first time around, altho after the char wipe, it seems like its truly random now, so kinda sucks not getting AVS the first 2 levels cause you cant level higher :P
My pally got improved divprot, so not bad, but pallys are really easy to survive with compared to most other tanks.

My main concern is tanks questing, its way to overpowered doing about the same damage as the dpsers, but then taking absolutely no damage in comparison.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:47 am

Treck wrote:2x Emp AVS was a bug pre SMV alpha, it always rolled emp AVS, but the 2nd time i think you always got emp judgement.
The first 2 was not random the first time around, altho after the char wipe, it seems like its truly random now, so kinda sucks not getting AVS the first 2 levels cause you cant level higher :P
My pally got improved divprot, so not bad, but pallys are really easy to survive with compared to most other tanks.

My main concern is tanks questing, its way to overpowered doing about the same damage as the dpsers, but then taking absolutely no damage in comparison.


The same damage might be because you got uber gear compared to the plebs =P
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Fetzie » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:47 am

Klaudandus wrote:The same damage might be because you got uber gear compared to the plebs =P


Not really. EU players are stuck with premades, which all start with item level 500 greens and nobody had copied characters in Alpha. Levelling as prot was so much easier and didn't feel slow, while I felt really fragile as retribution in the same gear.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:37 am

Fetzie wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:The same damage might be because you got uber gear compared to the plebs =P


Not really. EU players are stuck with premades, which all start with item level 500 greens and nobody had copied characters in Alpha. Levelling as prot was so much easier and didn't feel slow, while I felt really fragile as retribution in the same gear.


Well, I am sure that aint gonna last, that is, having the same DPS output as a proper dps.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Worldie » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:36 am

Quite sure they mentioned that Tanks will end up with "70%ish of the dps of a real dps". On random quest trash, that's not gonna be noticeable.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:11 am

Worldie wrote:Quite sure they mentioned that Tanks will end up with "70%ish of the dps of a real dps". On random quest trash, that's not gonna be noticeable.


Yeah, I remember that~
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:26 pm

Buncha rumors lately that Blizz is delaying/cutting several of the things promised during Blizzcon for later in order to meet the 2014 deadline for WoD, otherwise it would release till 2015 -- which is one of the reasons why no heirloom tab in 6.0.1 among others.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby halabar » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:05 pm

Klaudandus wrote:Buncha rumors lately that Blizz is delaying/cutting several of the things promised during Blizzcon for later in order to meet the 2014 deadline for WoD, otherwise it would release till 2015 -- which is one of the reasons why no heirloom tab in 6.0.1 among others.


you mean the ...

WHAHAAHAIWANTMYFLYINGINWARLORDSWHAHAHAAWHYCANTIFLY...

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WAHAHAHAIWANTKARABOR....

I can see heirloom tab being a pain to implement.. lot more difficult than the toy tab.

I haven't seen anything else canceled, just a lot of moving people's cheese...
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Fenris » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:08 pm

I'd be glad to have them cut everything down to pixel graphics if that meant having the exp. sooner

My account has been frozen for a week and half right now

I've not frozen since the day i started,back in december 2005
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Worldie » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:28 am

Likewise, even though I preordered WoD and will 100% play it, my account is sitting frozen because after 15 lvl 90s and over 1 year of SoO I kinda ran out of shit to do (that does make sense, I'm NOT going to PvP).
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Winkle » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:28 am

Bit bummed about the announcement on the two faction cities. Sounds like we moving to a set-up similar to MoP with two faction hubs sitting opposite each other.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:50 am

Yes, in 6.0 auction houses are unified between factions on a given server. The benefit you cite is a major reason behind the change.

IOW -- Cross-Faction AH!
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Worldie » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:20 am

For any server that's not a 99%-1% faction imbalance, it's going to be awesome.

For my realm, not so much, less than 90 alliance chars on whole realm :P Tho I guess, THEY will love the change.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Sabindeus » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:43 am

Worldie wrote:For any server that's not a 99%-1% faction imbalance, it's going to be awesome.

For my realm, not so much, less than 90 alliance chars on whole realm :P Tho I guess, THEY will love the change.


Well yes, that's the point. :P
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby econ21 » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:38 am

Crikey, tanks may be made viable in pvp.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/3234 ... cs-in-pvp/

Inconceivable! What's next? Paladins that can raid in roles other than as healers?
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Fenris » Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:33 pm

econ21 wrote:Crikey, tanks may be made viable in pvp.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/3234 ... cs-in-pvp/

Inconceivable! What's next? Paladins that can raid in roles other than as healers?

I'll believe it when i'll see it work,not a second earlier than that
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:23 pm

Rob Pardo resigns
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Treck » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:03 pm

They made pvp protection setbonuses, so its been their intent for a while. If it makes it live or not, we shall see.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Worldie » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:11 am

In before Cataclysm Blood DKs.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:52 am

The guys on the wowinsider podcast were pretty critical of the changes to the cities, the current questing bottlenecks in the starting areas and the whole forcing pvp on everyone even tho blizz said they're not doing that, (or at the very least, making questionable calls lorewise)
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Yelena » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:01 pm

Klaudandus wrote:(or at the very least, making questionable calls lorewise)

Like how the Jade Forest starting experience, for both Horde and Alliance, completely contradict each other?
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Dion » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:38 am

econ21 wrote:Crikey, tanks may be made viable in pvp.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/3234 ... cs-in-pvp/

Inconceivable! What's next? Paladins that can raid in roles other than as healers?


Those who dislike PvE changes made because PvP aren't going to like this.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby halabar » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:47 am

Klaudandus wrote:The guys on the wowinsider podcast were pretty critical of the changes to the cities, the current questing bottlenecks in the starting areas and the whole forcing pvp on everyone even tho blizz said they're not doing that, (or at the very least, making questionable calls lorewise)


Don't listen to that one. Far too many whiney podcasts these days.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Fetzie » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:05 am

Wait, forcing PvP on everybody? You mean those base camps that you'll be able to flight-point and teleport in and out of?
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Re: Warlords of Draenor

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:09 pm

halabar wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:The guys on the wowinsider podcast were pretty critical of the changes to the cities, the current questing bottlenecks in the starting areas and the whole forcing pvp on everyone even tho blizz said they're not doing that, (or at the very least, making questionable calls lorewise)


Don't listen to that one. Far too many whiney podcasts these days.


I dunno. Wow Insider is pretty homer for Blizzard, so when they complain about something, it's probably a real problem. What other podcast should I listen, CTR? After a while, I could not stand the hosts outside Zhug... (and yeah, I am in that guild)

Also, perhaps forcing PvP was not entirely the right choice of words. They were talking about how lorewise, pvp doesn't make sense anymore, about how quickly WoD forgets the lessons of Pandaria and undoes everything from SoO and whatnot. Basically make everyone stupid in WoD so there's a lore excuse for PvP.

Also, while I really don't care about Alliance, they did point out alliance players are upset with losing Karabor. Horde don't care cuz either of the cities would be new to them.


I still am really curious about Pardo's departure right in the middle of the development of the next expac. The timing is intriguing to say the least, which adds to the rumors of delays.
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