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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:07 am
by KysenMurrin
At best it could be early-concept stuff, where the final product ends up significantly different.

Remember how much changed between what Blizzard said Cataclysm would be like and what launched? At Blizzcon the Maelstrom wasn't involved at all, Deathwing came up through a hole north of Stormwind, and that hole was where we'd have to fly to enter Deepholm. They also said Deathwing had gone down under Grim Batol after flying around the world making Deathwing's Scar, and that was where we'd face him, IIRC.

But really, I think this is all just guesswork based on the name and the likely storylines.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:51 am
by Era
I just want more underwater zones. :D For questing, that is. Maybe an underwater 5-man, but I think raiding in water would get frustrating fast. :roll:
But definitely more underwater questing zones! Loved it. Oh and more mushroom forests! Give me a mmmmmmassive cave that you access from under the sea, with a huge mushroom forest growing inside it!

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:15 am
by Worldie
It does look like as just random speculation.

However, it does make sense. Would like to discover that the expansion is along those lines (even if zones are completely different, the storyline proposed in that post sounds very plausible)

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:24 am
by Flex
Nooska wrote:The big issue I have with that pastebin, is that its based on the old 10-level expansion premise.

I saw a blue quote not a week back that talked about 5 level expansions as a given at this time (something about getting new abilities when you get 5 more levels in a new expansion - nb! not verbatim)


Well the datamined Hellscream weapons were for levels 90-100, with the caveat "don't take the level range as indication of anything."

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:27 am
by Worldie
Plus remember people have complained about 5 levels not really giving much content to enjoy as it ends up in being almost no leveling istances, making leveling by istancing extremely boring.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:28 am
by Flex
Worldie wrote:Plus remember people have complained about 5 levels not really giving much content to enjoy as it ends up in being almost no leveling istances, making leveling by istancing extremely boring.


Leveling by instance is always boring.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:42 am
by Era
I understand that level 100 is a big deal, and a nice round number, but would anyone REALLY care if every expansion was 10 levels and the game ended on level 120 or whatever? I know I sure wouldn't give damn in any direction.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:47 am
by Flex
Era wrote:I understand that level 100 is a big deal, and a nice round number, but would anyone REALLY care if every expansion was 10 levels and the game ended on level 120 or whatever? I know I sure wouldn't give damn in any direction.


People are weird and like specific numbers. Some people focus on "pssh, only 5 levels so obviously it is less content than if it had 10 levels." which ignores that Blizzard could make it so MoP leveled us from 86-125 if they wanted it to.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:23 pm
by halabar
The pastbin will probably wind up being about 60% accurate. The idea of subraces is really interesting (and evil way of Blizz to get more $$$ from race changes).

But even if we get 60%, it sounds like it will be an interesting expac, if they designers deliver.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:46 pm
by Newsom
I'd be pretty pissed if we don't get a free character customization on every character when the new models come out.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:48 pm
by halabar
Newsom wrote:I'd be pretty pissed if we don't get a free character customization on every character when the new models come out.


You'll probably get that free, but, if you want to change to an Iron Dwarf, or a Ice Troll, that will cost ya..

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:51 pm
by bldavis
that could be interesting...
what sub-races do you think they would add?

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:00 pm
by Paxen
bldavis wrote:that could be interesting...
what sub-races do you think they would add?


Iron Dwarf and/or Earthen
Frost Dwarf
Wildhammer Dwarf
Dark Iron Dwarf

Mechagnome

Ice Troll
Sandfury and/or Zandalari Troll
Forest Troll unless they're too similar to Jungle Trolls

Brown orc (Mag'har)
Black orc (Dragonmaw)

Elf/dwarf/gnome Forsaken

Taunka
Yaungol

I don't think they'll add Iron Dwarfs, and I'm unsure of Zandalari trolls at this point. Maybe Zandalari could work if subraces are added after a big defeat of the Zandalari empire.

The big problems with a lot of these (Ice Trolls, Taunka, Yaoungol especially, but more as well) is that the normal starting zone makes zero sense. I can't quite see them making new starting zones for each subrace.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:18 pm
by Darielle
The sub-races concept is bad, and 99% not even something Blizzard would do. Not only would it be a horrific burden to introduce, and more controversial than updating race models, it would pretty much break the feel of the game unless they put Cataclysm-level work into revamping starting areas.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:12 pm
by Flex
Darielle wrote:The sub-races concept is bad, and 99% not even something Blizzard would do. Not only would it be a horrific burden to introduce, and more controversial than updating race models, it would pretty much break the feel of the game unless they put Cataclysm-level work into revamping starting areas.


I could see it with a path of the titans type reward.

Say for instance you level a Dwarf to max level and you unlock the sub race option for the dwarves allowing you to one time change your current character or start a dwarf with that sub-race from the start. One issue is that they rarely make female models of sub-races so that'd be extra work on top of new existing racial models.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:20 am
by Paxen
If they really did implement Path of the Titans like the posts says...(and I think it's a hoax)

Subraces could be unlocked, and they start in the capital at level 10, newly arrived immigrants. Then you'd only need one NPC per subrace that quickly explains your abilities and your backstory. Doesn't get around the problem of female models.

Variant orcs, dwarfs and trolls are mostly down to coloring anyway.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:28 am
by Barathorn
I just want to play a Murloc.

Is that too much to ask?

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:01 am
by Worldie
Murlocs are a primordial race, don't have any technology or anything, doubt that'd be ever viable

However in Pandaria we learned that Jinyus evolved from Murlocs so... maybe play a Jinyu? :P

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:24 am
by cdan
I want to play a Hozen and the racial will have to be "Poo Fling - hurl your feces at the enemy, causing them to flee and lower their opinion of you significantly".

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:58 am
by KysenMurrin
Still want Furbolg and either the original Dragonmen, or Sauroks since they use the same model and more work has been put into them already.

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:52 am
by Worldie
Sauroks arent really "civilized", they wouldn't fit anywhere in the playable races ;)

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:17 am
by Flex
Worldie wrote:Sauroks arent really "civilized", they wouldn't fit anywhere in the playable races ;)


Neither are the dirty orcs!

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:19 am
by Worldie
Orcs have a quite complex social system and good technology / knowledge of magic actually :P Just looks very primal

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:46 am
by Holyblaze
Flex wrote:
Worldie wrote:Sauroks arent really "civilized", they wouldn't fit anywhere in the playable races ;)


Neither are the dirty orcs!



This Flex! I love this! AMEN!

Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:20 pm
by Lieris
halabar wrote:Ima just gonna leave this here....

http://pastebin.com/vszFYq2p


Almost certainly fake but whoever fabricated it obviously loves the game. I would love an expansion like that.