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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby bldavis » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:32 pm

i disagree with w/e goblins can be, as goblins can be shamans and yeah..
there are npc monks and priests in game though, and if we had to have another paladin race, i would vote for either ethereals or the undead and alliance has its 3 already
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby halabar » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:45 pm

bldavis wrote:i disagree with w/e goblins can be, as goblins can be shamans and yeah..
there are npc monks and priests in game though, and if we had to have another paladin race, i would vote for either ethereals or the undead and alliance has its 3 already


Well, the question is, is the rest of the ethereal race as gold-grubbing as the ones we've met sofar? If so, then no to paladins, and you are correct, no to shammies, forgot about those. Priest might not even make sense, depends on the backstory that we don't know.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Era » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:13 pm

Friendly naga player race, anyone? :D just tie the boots to your tail like a trinket, and wear one XXL trouser leg.

As for ethereals, I'm not sure what I think about another "both sides" race.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby halabar » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:51 am

Goblins and Ethereals could form a new faction called "The Cartel".
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Era » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:24 am

Maybe we'll see a rearrangement of races into five factions.

The Pink: Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes
The Green: Orcs, Trolls, Goblins
The Hairy: Pandaren, Worgen, Tauren
The Hairless: Night Elves, Blood Elves, Draenei
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby cdan » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:36 am

The Instantly forgetable: Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes
The Irritatingly voiced: Orcs, Trolls, Goblins
The Only ones with decent weapon models, but bad everything else: Pandaren, Worgen, Tauren
The Annoyingly Prissy: Night Elves, Blood Elves, Draenei
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby halabar » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:11 am

Hmm.. forsaken paladin.. *casts Turn Evil (runs away.. )

Much hilarity to be had by an forsaken paladin doing as much damage to himself as to the enemy, but perhaps that might be a leg up for vengence.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Era » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:27 am

That'd be an interesting mechanic, if undead paladins actually took some damage using their skills, but in turn got buffed damage/healing. :p
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Worldie » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:49 am

cdan wrote:The Only option I want as a main: Gnome

Fixed.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby cdan » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:04 am

Worldie wrote:
cdan wrote:The Only option I want as a main: Gnome

Fixed.


Now I see how you break guilds. :roll: :wink:
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby halabar » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:53 am

Ima just gonna leave this here....

http://pastebin.com/vszFYq2p
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Newsom » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:15 pm

halabar wrote:Ima just gonna leave this here....

http://pastebin.com/vszFYq2p


Interesting read.

Sounds a lot like this from 2011 though http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/949761-Official-Thread-Mists-of-Pandaria!?p=13608837&viewfull=1#post13608837
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:33 pm

Why would Nerubians fight against N'Zoth? Thought all the bug races worshipped the Old Gods.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Worldie » Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:44 pm

Nerubians are the ones we saved in the northrend istances and aren't tainted by the old gods.

Also would love to see that :P Would totally make me buy the exp and at least enjoy the storyline as super casual
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Newsom » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:54 pm

I'd love to see Azjol-Nerub as a zone. And who can say no to spider mounts.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Sagara » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:54 pm

Wait wait wait, I thought the Nerubians were Old God worshippers (like the Aqir and Mantid), which set us in the middle of a Scourge vs. Old gods fight.

But the I remembered the Nerubians in the Azjol Nerub instances sent us to kill the Faceless whatshisname in Ahn'Kahet.

But then again, as far back as 2007, Blizz stated Nerubians and Old Gods were B.F.F... Could there be some kind of philosophical split among the people of Nerub? Or did they ask us to kill the Faceless as "acceptable collateral" or just as a backstab against a rival?

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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Newsom » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:27 pm

Hmmm. Not sure. After reading up a bit it seems C'thun was friends with the original Aqir, but it's unclear what happened with the Sundering when the Aqir were split into the Nerubians and the Qiraji. Obviously the Qiraji remained loyal to C'thun but I'm guessing the Nerubians lost contact/broke free.

The quests in AN states that when the Nerbians fought against the Scourge they dug a little too deep and discovered the faceless ones, who they also warred against. It seems like they're not huge fans of the Old Gods at all.

The Old Gods are not exactly friendly with each other either - so while the Nerubians might still be loyal to C'thun it doesn't mean they're loyal to N'zoth.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Darielle » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:17 am

Wait wait wait, I thought the Nerubians were Old God worshippers (like the Aqir and Mantid), which set us in the middle of a Scourge vs. Old gods fight.

But the I remembered the Nerubians in the Azjol Nerub instances sent us to kill the Faceless whatshisname in Ahn'Kahet.

But then again, as far back as 2007, Blizz stated Nerubians and Old Gods were B.F.F... Could there be some kind of philosophical split among the people of Nerub? Or did they ask us to kill the Faceless as "acceptable collateral" or just as a backstab against a rival?


In the Frozen Throne campaign, Anub'arak was also terrified of the Faceless Ones.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Sagara » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:24 am

Yeah, so most probably the Nerubians lost contact with the Old Gods, found freedom to their tastes, and would be horrified at the prospect of becoming slaves again.

Which makes the Mantid a nice twist on the same concept, actually.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Nooska » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:19 am

The big issue I have with that pastebin, is that its based on the old 10-level expansion premise.

I saw a blue quote not a week back that talked about 5 level expansions as a given at this time (something about getting new abilities when you get 5 more levels in a new expansion - nb! not verbatim)

So this seemslike ooold specuulatioen - which probably means its based on something that blizzard once worked on (and where cataclysm was 80-90, with no pandaria), so some of it will probably be true, but I still call BS on whoever is posting it actually knowing anything xecpt 5-6 year old thoughts and ideas - maybe with a little personal speculation mixed in.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:07 am

At best it could be early-concept stuff, where the final product ends up significantly different.

Remember how much changed between what Blizzard said Cataclysm would be like and what launched? At Blizzcon the Maelstrom wasn't involved at all, Deathwing came up through a hole north of Stormwind, and that hole was where we'd have to fly to enter Deepholm. They also said Deathwing had gone down under Grim Batol after flying around the world making Deathwing's Scar, and that was where we'd face him, IIRC.

But really, I think this is all just guesswork based on the name and the likely storylines.
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Era » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:51 am

I just want more underwater zones. :D For questing, that is. Maybe an underwater 5-man, but I think raiding in water would get frustrating fast. :roll:
But definitely more underwater questing zones! Loved it. Oh and more mushroom forests! Give me a mmmmmmassive cave that you access from under the sea, with a huge mushroom forest growing inside it!
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Worldie » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:15 am

It does look like as just random speculation.

However, it does make sense. Would like to discover that the expansion is along those lines (even if zones are completely different, the storyline proposed in that post sounds very plausible)
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Flex » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:24 am

Nooska wrote:The big issue I have with that pastebin, is that its based on the old 10-level expansion premise.

I saw a blue quote not a week back that talked about 5 level expansions as a given at this time (something about getting new abilities when you get 5 more levels in a new expansion - nb! not verbatim)


Well the datamined Hellscream weapons were for levels 90-100, with the caveat "don't take the level range as indication of anything."
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Re: WoW or D3 expansion? The Dark Below

Postby Worldie » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:27 am

Plus remember people have complained about 5 levels not really giving much content to enjoy as it ends up in being almost no leveling istances, making leveling by istancing extremely boring.
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