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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:56 am

I'm now thinking it's a toss-up: Either Burning Legion invasion expansion, or Zandalari Empire. I'd prefer Zandalari with more build up for demons in the following expansion, personally, but we know the invasion is coming either way.
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby halabar » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:01 am

KysenMurrin wrote:I'm now thinking it's a toss-up: Either Burning Legion invasion expansion, or Zandalari Empire. I'd prefer Zandalari with more build up for demons in the following expansion, personally, but we know the invasion is coming either way.


True, but I think the Zandalari would be anti-clamatic after defeating the Burning Legion. (Unless Blizz paints it as the Zandalari are trying to take advantage of the devastation caused by the Burning Legion).

Of course, if we do fight the empire first, that means another xpac of kissing up to Wrathion for KmartLegendaries.
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:08 am

I don't know, I think with Wrathion revealing his big plan to us in the next patch, his story is likely to take a big turn in 5.4. I don't think we're going to go along with his "unite the world by conquest" thing.
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby halabar » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:11 am

KysenMurrin wrote:I don't know, I think with Wrathion revealing his big plan to us in the next patch, his story is likely to take a big turn in 5.4. I don't think we're going to go along with his "unite the world by conquest" thing.


So along with Garrosh, we have to defeat Wrathion too? Deathwing the sequel? Was wondering what they were going to do for other bosses in the Garrosh beat-down. Also wonder where the raid will actually be in Org.
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Teranoid » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:16 am

I don't see Wrathion as being an enemy. He's basically like "yeah my dad was a complete douchecanoe thanks for offing him he was a total dick and here in return I'll try to help you avoid obliterating the entirety of Azeroth."
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:25 am

I don't think he'll be an enemy we have to fight, no. I think our relationship with him could become a more complicated, though, and less just straightforward "here's some nice stuff".
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Shoju » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:27 am

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Dear God. You can see why he wanted them killed.


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Watch, next expansion will be a break in the trend:

Full troll expansion, with one token "non-troll" raid thrown in 75% through the expac.

Mark my words.


I wouuld consider coming back for a troll expac.
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby bldavis » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:44 pm

i would love a troll expansion!
(and might consider race changing my lock or my dk to a troll, both are foresaken right now)
or maybe my belf rogue...but she would also need name changed and switched to male...so nm

anyway..with how things are looking right now with the backing the mogu get from the zandilari, and the fact trolls can already be locks, i would say that the next expansion is troll, in which they get increasingly desperate as we get closer and closer to shutting them down, and their last act is to call upon the burning legion or something to get us into burning legion expansion (sargeras as last boss?)

ive given up hope of an emerald dream expansion at this point
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Era » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:32 pm

They could do an emerald dream & troll expansion for level 95, exploring both at once - and then Burning Legion for the supposedly final level 100. Carve our way through the Zandalari for the first two patches, then the emerald dream on the two last, or something.

And yeah, I think I'd definitely return for a troll and/or emerald dream expansion. Preferably with new character models all 'round. And maybe a little more paladin compatibility on the Horde side... I mean, when you can slide in tauren paladins, you can slide in orcs or trolls as well, imo.

Though, with new and shiny character models, it'd be a fresh hell to try and figure out what race to go as... :roll:
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Shoju » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:44 pm

You would go troll. There are no other races.
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Era » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:01 pm

I could be ok with that. Hand me the reins of my holy raptor, I'mma go shine da light on some Zandalari entrails, mon.

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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Chunes » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:03 pm

I'd be sad if it was a troll expac.

I actually loathe the "troll chapter" of each expansion, owing mostly to my lack of love for the troll aesthetic (tribal, hoodoo/voodoo masks feathers, blah)

If no emerald dream happens, then I am really hoping for an offensive into the demonic realms. I'd love to have a Vashjir analogue zone or zones that happen in undefined regions of the twisting nether. I'd love to assault the eredar strongholds on argus (if it indeed exists) and I think the penultimate tier of progression would ideally be happening on the nathrezim homeworld, wherever that may be.

Then the final tier we finally get to kill sargeras since, you know, he's been MIA for the entire game so far.

I'm sort of tired of the whole titan storylines and their associated lore. I think it's time to move the story forward instead of fleshing out more "origins" stories.
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Era » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:26 pm

Well, Sargeras is right in the middle of the Titan storylines though, and he would be the ultimate badguy - but I still feel there's unfinished business with the Old Gods and indeed to some extent the Nathrezim.

And I would love more Vashj'ir! I actually really loved that zone. Found it incredibly beautiful!
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Worldie » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:03 am

Don't forget we still have to defeat Azshara at some point ;)
Even though that would relate to the Burning Legion pretty well



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Future expansions mumbling

Postby bldavis » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:22 am

future xpansion ideas?

as for horde pallies
it was really down to the tauren with the sunwalkers or....undead?
trolls and orcs arent cut out for being a paladin, they have too chaotic of spirits/pasts
goblins...how do you bribe the light?
belfs - already are pallies


undead - i can MAYBE see them but with the light physically causing them pain, would be interesting
i could see the lore for undead ret pallies, but healadins and tankadins are iffy
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Re: Transmogrification and stuff!

Postby Worldie » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:33 am

The lore for undead paladins would be the same for undead holy priests.
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby bldavis » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:14 am

true...
for those that do not know, it causes them pain through actually healing them
as they become more and mroe healed, their senses return and they can see, taste, and smell the decay in their bodies
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby Era » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:46 am

bldavis wrote:true...
for those that do not know, it causes them pain through actually healing them
as they become more and mroe healed, their senses return and they can see, taste, and smell the decay in their bodies


From the priest trainer in the chapel in the undead starter town, am I right? I remember loving that little piece of lore. ^^
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby Fetzie » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:12 am

Is also part of the back-story to Sir Zeliek (the only paladin to retain his mastery of the Light and capacity for conscious thought despite being turned).
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby bldavis » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:46 am

Era wrote:
bldavis wrote:true...
for those that do not know, it causes them pain through actually healing them
as they become more and mroe healed, their senses return and they can see, taste, and smell the decay in their bodies


From the priest trainer in the chapel in the undead starter town, am I right? I remember loving that little piece of lore. ^^

ive been a lore nut for so dam long, i dont remember where i read most of the crap i know :lol:
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby Worldie » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:00 am

Fetzie wrote:Is also part of the back-story to Sir Zeliek (the only paladin to retain his mastery of the Light and capacity for conscious thought despite being turned).

Care to explain? I never read zeliek's story
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby bldavis » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:30 am

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Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby Era » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:47 pm

I remembered him when Fetzie mentioned his name, but I don't think there's too much lore on him, at least not in-game?
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby bldavis » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:29 pm

based on where he is and the little we do know about him, i would guess that he was an original order of the silver hand member, was captured and tortured, and ultimetly turned undead...but because of his faith and the power of the light he has kept his mind..its just his body obeys the lich kings commmand which is why he fights us, but is constantly telling us to run while we can

beyond that, there is nothing concrete about him at all that i know of
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Re: Troll lore and future expansion

Postby Sanctity » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:35 pm

I remember that guy, I used to tell people he dropped the white skeletal warhorse which you bought from the argent tournament. Fun times. I do think undead is the best fit for pallies since they already have priests but they'd need to flesh out the lore, maybe once Garrosh goes down and Slyvannas can start using those valkyr they can cook up a "new type of undead" gimmick to fit it in.
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