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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby halabar » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:11 pm

So true....

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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Zalaria » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:33 pm

Nooska wrote:If only they would stick with 1 so we knew - at least I know why I was unsure whether it was same day or +1 week - blizzard hasn't been consistent :)

Most likely they try to do it the same week but if it's not ready they push it back. Sometimes it's ready, sometimes it isn't. I'd rather wait for it to work better :P
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby halabar » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:38 pm

Regarding the ShadowPan-Assault loot. Just checked the PTR, and there's a 522 neck available that you can buy right away, and then three pieces available at friendly. So staying close to valor cap to pick up that gear is certainly worthwhile.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:12 pm

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- Spirit Walk – cooldown reduced from 2 min to 1 min.

Hooray! (Apart from rebalancing the level 60 and 90 talents, this is the only change Enhancement has received in 5.2.)
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Darielle » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:26 am

We're going to make some changes to this trinket based on testing and feedback. Our goal was to make it decent if you didn't game it at all but offer some opportunities for enhanced benefits if you did. We're going to try to meet that goal better with these changes:

10 sec duration (down from 20 sec) but with double the proc rate.
Increase your highest secondary stat by 200% of the sum of your two lowest secondary stats. For example: you have 3500 mastery, 5000 crit, 7000 haste. Rune procs, and you get [-3500 mastery, -5000 crit, +17000 haste]. Same logic as before, just double the size of the buff to your highest stat.


I am going to LOVE my Bleeds.

Who wants to bow to Windwalker overlords with this bad boy?
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Worldie » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:28 am

Why would windwalker be particularly strong with it? What stat do they stack?
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:29 am

In 5.2 Windwalker Mastery increases the size of their Tigereye Brew % damage buff. Build up brew charges, wait for trinket proc, hit Tigereye Brew, profit.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Darielle » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:31 am

Worldie wrote:Why would windwalker be particularly strong with it? What stat do they stack?


In 5.2, their Mastery is changing to increase the damage buff given by Tigereye Brew. The way the trinket works (and will continue to work), they can use it to stack Mastery, get a massive Tigereye buff rolling, and cancel the trinket aura to add crit and Haste on top of it. Higher proc chance and lower trinket duration make this even more reliable, and double-stat make this even stronger.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:37 am

I'm gonna have to look up the Enhance numbers on that trinket - a Mastery proc during Ascendance would be pretty strong. I already get high burst with my cooldowns popped, if this thing is any good then Invis and Nika are gonna hate me even more on the pull. ;) (I am awful about pulling aggro at the start of fights. Then when I tried holding back, our Rogue tricksing me made me pull aggro anyway.)
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby halabar » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:37 am

Still seems as that trinket is going to potentially force a lot of odd reforging to prevent capping or wasted stats (haste proc pushing cast times below the GCD). Or the proc happening at non-ideal times where that extra stat boost has minimal effect.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Worldie » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:43 am

You are forgetting we talking about an Agi trinket. No caster is going to use it.

http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/96546-rune-of-re-origination
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Rhiannon » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:45 am

He mains a hunter, they cast.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby halabar » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:51 am

Rhiannon wrote:He mains a hunter, they cast.


Yep, and with Blizz trying to make MM viable with buffs, and since MM stacks haste, I can see a problem there. It's bad enough trying to manage MM rotations with all the other variable haste in a raid, and a trinket proc on top of that? I'll stick with BM and SV where Mastery stacking won't be hurt by a trinket proc.

(Assuming of course, that the trinket actually drops at some point.. given the RNG for trinket drops, might not have anything to worry about... :P
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Worldie » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:00 am

You aren't forced to use that trinket you know ;) Doesn't have to be BiS, there's 4 other agi trinkets in the game files.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby halabar » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:03 am

Worldie wrote:You aren't forced to use that trinket you know ;) Doesn't have to be BiS, there's 4 other agi trinkets in the game files.


We'll see what the RNG gods have to say about that.. :lol: (allthough I think one of those 4 is not really a hunter usable one, but could be mistaken).

I would of course, prefer the voodoo gnome one, because, well, VOODOO GNOMES!
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Fenrìr » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:44 pm

So no (yet) Thunderforged tank trinket (actual one that is)




but I am happy to see two tank shields in game...not that I'll see them drop anyway (f u spirit kings)
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Newsom » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:56 pm

There are actually 3 shields! One is a trash drop.

And Spark of Zandalar is pretty sweet (and Thunderforged).
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Worldie » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:32 pm

I thought I understood all item in the raid can be "thunderforged".
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby halabar » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:41 pm

Worldie wrote:I thought I understood all item in the raid can be "thunderforged".


Not the tier gear.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Worldie » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:48 pm

Well ok except tier :p
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Fenrìr » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:58 am

ah, so anything can be thunderforged, hrm.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Newsom » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:00 am

Regarding Rune of Re-Origination a few pages back:

Blizzard wrote:The proc frequency changes based on the ilvl of the trinket:

541 ilevel = 112.88% proc multiplier
535 ilevel = 106.74% proc multiplier
528 ilevel = 100.00% proc multiplier
522 ilevel = 94.56% proc multiplier
502 ilevel = 78.49% proc multiplier
463 ilevel = 54.57% proc multiplier
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Darielle » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:32 pm

THey did also make it so you can't cancel the proc. It makes gaming it slightly harder, but then it also makes it slightly easier because you have time and an advance notice, so ~.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Worldie » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:45 pm

Out of curiosity, would that trinket be cool for druid/monk tanks?
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Darielle » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:56 pm

Monk tanks, probably. You can have enough time on stuff like Shuffle and EB that you can use the few moments of additional Stagger without any dramatic loss. You'd have to set it to reforge to Mastery though - proccing to Haste would overkill you on Haste since you should be running a fair amount anyway, and Crit isn't reliable.

Druids? It's kinda eh. It's good for DPS - bad for Rage.
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