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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:41 am

Don't care about the over/under -- I just wish we would get a response... any response at this point...
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Fetzie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:43 am

Klaudandus wrote:Don't care about the over/under -- I just wish we would get a response... any response at this point...


Yeah, at least bad news is some news :/
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:19 am

Fetzie wrote:Yeah, at least bad news is some news :/

Yep
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby oldboyz » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:32 am

quick question for those gonna try soon the PTR :
how many gems slot on new tier set, pvp and pve :-)
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Fetzie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:42 am

I think we'll know about that long before the items land on the PTR :)
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Newsom » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:52 am

What are you guys complaining about? Paladins have probably the best cooldowns around and we're getting an extra 10% every 30 secs in the patch. Our DPS is totally fine, especially with how we scale with haste compared to other tank classes. I'm more worried they'll notice we're a bit overpowered soon and nerf us. :D
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Fetzie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:55 am

Newsom wrote:What are you guys complaining about? Paladins have probably the best cooldowns around and we're getting an extra 10% every 30 secs in the patch. Our DPS is totally fine. I'm more worried they'll notice we're a bit overpowered soon and nerf us. :D

Grabbing the threat of lots of mobs at once is rather gimped compared to the other tanks. Consecrate takes 2 seconds to do anything, Hammer of the Righteous only does damage when you have some vengeance and Holy Wrath does fuck all when split among 4+ mobs.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Newsom » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:16 am

It's kind of the same for the other tanks too, though. Thunderclap does fuck all without vengeance and the dot it applies can be compared to consecration. I usually find it's whoever goes and hits the mobs first that gets to keep threat on all the trash mobs in a raid, regardless of class. It's more of a vengeance problem to be honest.

That said it would be nice if they removed the meteor effect on HW.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby bldavis » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:51 am

i dont raid with or as a monk currently, but i believe that is where most of the snap aggro issues are coming from
i know as a raiding DK tank with a pally co tank D&D and BB dont rip threat off my co tank
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Nooska » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:54 am

Well Deathknighst can aoe grab quite effectively with bloodboil (and roiling blood or pestilence), monks have Keg smash.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:01 pm

Buff pallies, warriors and bears then \o/
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Nikachelle » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:17 pm

bldavis wrote:i know as a raiding DK tank with a pally co tank D&D and BB dont rip threat off my co tank

I seriously question that.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Amirya » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:40 pm

I kinda have to question that as well. When my DK was 85, running as Blood, in ~378 dps gear, I was yanking aggro off the 90 paladin tank with ease (and complaints from said paladin).
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Sagara » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:58 pm

bldavis wrote:i know as a raiding DK tank with a pally co tank D&D and BB dont rip threat off my co tank


CITATION NEEDED. :cry:
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Nooska » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:09 pm

ypur co-tank must be HoSing you
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby bldavis » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:01 pm

if he had the mobs to begin with, no i dont rip threat off him
if we both reach the mobs, yes i pull more aoe threat
but i am also shite geared (see sig, mortimis)
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Fenris » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:51 pm

I raid with a monk.At this point i just afk during trash pulls,i'd end doing nothing anyway

And then every single lfg i can do pretty much the same,unless i meet another paladin or someone that is playing really,really badly.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:03 pm

GC Pally tweets of the day:
Rets and why DS/HotR hit like wet noddles
https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status ... 2364016641

Holy Paladins are still somewhat OP
https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status ... 9268683776

*facedesk*

Bonus:
https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status ... 2815436801

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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Levantine » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:19 pm

Well that holy paladin one might be true. It's a PvP tweet and how many of us here actually know how high level pvp works?
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:25 pm

Levantine wrote:Well that holy paladin one might be true. It's a PvP tweet and how many of us here actually know how high level pvp works?


I was facedesking at the lack of prot tweets
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Levantine » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:32 pm

Ohh, well that makes more sense. I thought it was more about the... dumbness of the tweets. Although I suppose a lot of that is due to the medium itself.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Fenris » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:06 pm

From mmo-c

Item - Paladin T15 Protection 2P Bonus (New) Casting Word of Glory or Eternal Flame also grants you 40% additional block chance for 5 sec per Holy Power.
Item - Paladin T15 Protection 4P Bonus (New) You gain 1 Holy Power for each 0% of your health taken as damage while Divine Protection is active.

2p seems really strong (but then i start thinking about all the "should i put up bastion of glory or 2p-bonus" to do on the fly :shock: )
4p...Uhm....

And then on to the class changes..

Talents

Repentance now has a 1.7 sec cast time, up from 1.5 sec.


Set Bonuses

Item - Paladin PvP Set Holy 4P Bonus - Casting Flash of Light grants 1 charge of Holy Power. No longer works off of Word of Glory.


...ok,nevermind,nothing to see there
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Newsom » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:21 pm

So... if we can get to 62.4% avoidance and also reliably generate 3 holy power per 15 seconds we could become block capped again?

I'm already at ~50% and I'm stacking haste. Seems totally doable. I hope I miscalculated or something (or that this doesn't go live) because it sounds like some pretty boring gameplay keeping a 15 sec buff up. :/
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Worldie » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:47 pm

I doubt they'd let us become block capped with tier set. It would mean we'd want to stay in T15 even when the following tier is released
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Re: patch 5.2 ?

Postby Sagara » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:51 pm

Uh, aren't we working on a two-roll system? You'd need ~60% block to get capped, regardless of avoidance, then.

I'm just not up to date on this kind of thing, I'd rather shamelessly steal from our resident PhD :-p
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