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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby bldavis » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:16 am

4 again yesterday, and i should hit exalted today \o/
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Zalaria » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:28 am

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benebarba wrote:yep, I seem to have gotten more GL the last few days than any previous time.

But now that I've maxed all the cooking ways, I'm only growing cooking mats on an alt and my main is doing motes and herbs.

Grow most valuable crop -> buy cooking mats with profit. You don't really gain anything by growing specific food crops yourself. (Though I admit, I grew most of my own out of laziness versus doing some sort of AH shuffle.)


In other news, now is the time to work on your alts - MMO-Champion says the Darkmoon Faire's new ride provides a 10% xp and rep buff that works on all sources. With the 8th Anniversary item and the Faire, this week will be the best possible time to level quickly.


Keep in mind the xp/rep buff falls off if you die. If you're going to use it, be careful :)
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Mannstein » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:45 am

bldavis wrote:4 again yesterday, and i should hit exalted today \o/

5 Saturday... AND 8 yesterday...

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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby benebarba » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:05 am

KysenMurrin wrote:
benebarba wrote:yep, I seem to have gotten more GL the last few days than any previous time.

But now that I've maxed all the cooking ways, I'm only growing cooking mats on an alt and my main is doing motes and herbs.

Grow most valuable crop -> buy cooking mats with profit. You don't really gain anything by growing specific food crops yourself. (Though I admit, I grew most of my own out of laziness versus doing some sort of AH shuffle.)


The alt can't get the special seeds yet, so it's still a plus :D
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Jabari » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:29 am

Got 6 Lotuses (Loti?) yesterday (15 slots, needed 1 for something else). Note that only 5 were "sprouted" - I got one more that "tagged along" with a different herb. (This is on my tailor/alch, so you don't need to be an herbalist for that either). Couple of Life/Mana Spirits too.

That's really nice for him as the Tailor part doesn't really need Spirits for anything. The LW and Scribe are going to keep planting songbells for crafting (Armor patches for the LW, Staves and Fans for the scribe).
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:55 am

halabar wrote:4 and 6 here. Wonder if Blizz watches the changes in what people plant.


Yes, that's why the 5.1 changes happened. If I remember correctly the tweet was basically not liking how the farm became a Songbell->Golden Lotus factory making the other seeds pretty much useless.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:57 am

Nooska wrote:8th anniversary ended saturday


I had the token on several of my alts on Sunday, they never looted it from the mail so I wonder if that was the reason.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Jabari » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:38 am

Flex wrote:... making the other seeds pretty much useless.


Hmm - out of curiosity, is there a list of what the other types CAN produce? I've never tried the enchanting/windwool/metal ones, and when I planted a few of the "carnivorous plant" ones (thinking they'd give me random meats for cooking *laugh*), I only got single Exotic Leathers from each.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:43 am

Jabari wrote:
Flex wrote:... making the other seeds pretty much useless.


Hmm - out of curiosity, is there a list of what the other types CAN produce? I've never tried the enchanting/windwool/metal ones, and when I planted a few of the "carnivorous plant" ones (thinking they'd give me random meats for cooking *laugh*), I only got single Exotic Leathers from each.


I have not tried any but the ore and herb ones since 5.1. Even with the ore spawn rate nerf it isn't worth planting the ore ones but they can give trillium, kyparite and of course ghost iron.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby benebarba » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:02 pm

Flex wrote:
Jabari wrote:
Flex wrote:... making the other seeds pretty much useless.


Hmm - out of curiosity, is there a list of what the other types CAN produce? I've never tried the enchanting/windwool/metal ones, and when I planted a few of the "carnivorous plant" ones (thinking they'd give me random meats for cooking *laugh*), I only got single Exotic Leathers from each.


I have not tried any but the ore and herb ones since 5.1. Even with the ore spawn rate nerf it isn't worth planting the ore ones but they can give trillium, kyparite and of course ghost iron.


I tried some of the cactus, and they only gave me windwool (3-5 per I think). From the enchanting seed I got spirit dust (maybe a mysterious essence? I didn't plant them much). Never tried the carniverous plants.

The herb ones also give a health/mana potion (60K HOT or mana over 10 s I think), on top of whatever herbs they turn out. Not terribly helpful, but they're there.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby bldavis » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:41 pm

carnivorous plants are for leather
cactus are for cloth
ore plant is for ore
enchanting is enchanting mats
enigma is for herbs

ore, enchanting, and enigma are all random MoP mat afaik, the enchanting might be only dust, but you can upgrade dust to ess, to crystals
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby culhag » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:20 pm

Just noticed that the big tundra mammoth is now cross-faction.

Edit : As well as many mounts that were faction specific, like the lion/scorpion guild mount and a few others. (including the ToGC-10 mount !)
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:14 pm

bldavis wrote:carnivorous plants are for leather
cactus are for cloth
ore plant is for ore
enchanting is enchanting mats
enigma is for herbs

Basically this.

Exotic Leather from Carnivorous
Windwool Cloth from Cacti
Any MoP ore from ore ones
Any MoP herb from Enigma
Dust/Essence from Enchanting (afaik you can't get shards from these without "enchanting" the dust/essence into them)
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby bldavis » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:16 pm

how dare you make my post clearer! :evil:
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
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Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:22 pm

Just translating for you :P
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby bldavis » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:37 pm

Skye1013 wrote:Just translating for you :P

i think that is a sign we have been in a guild together too long :twisted:
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Sagara » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:43 am

I'm getting really interested in the 5.1 quest chains - after merely 3 chains, it really feels like the Horde is imploding. What I was wondering is if it was visible from the Alliance POV? Maybe we could share notes on our respective quest chains?




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Chapter 1: Dagger in the dark (Day 0) On Patch day, we were given the "honor" of escorting Garrosh and secure the island that would become Domination Point. With construction underway, we were surprised by an unexpected guest: Vol'jin had arrived on Pandaria by his own means.
The divide between the troll and the orc was evident when Garrosh extolled the virtues of his war of conquest, while Vol'jin reminded him of exactly how he was viewed from the outside. Still, Vol'jin was sent on reconnaissance with an orc party and ourselves as "local expert".
While the orcs secured the northernmost point of the Veiled Stairs, Vol'jin and us explored the cave that leads to Kun-lai, stumbling upon a saurok nest containing mogu relics discussing the creation of the sauroks. Vol'jin was disgusted, while the orcs wanted to exploit the mogu's ideas for their own. Discussions heated, accusations of betrayal were made and a fight ensued where the orc party was wiped out and vol'jin wounded. Vok'jin went under the radar, officially killed in the cave.

Chapter 2: Voice of the Gods (Day 2) We were summoned to the Shrine of two moons, where Lor'themar and a band of Reliquary archeologists had set an advance base. We were sent to an excavation site on a plateau in the Vale of Eternal Blossom around the time a quilen statue was unearthed.
Sadly, no-one had cared to warn the elves about the quilen's unique properties, and we had to put the beast down, looting a mogu tablet describing some kind of weapon: "A bell cast from the makers' flesh, shaped by stars' fire, and bound by the breath of darkest shadow. This bell, when rung, could shake the world and call to the heavens."
Needless to say, Garrosh was overjoyed at the discovery. More importantly, the Reliquary provided us with a transcript of the tablet, mentionning they trusted "that you will not share this sensitive information with just anyone." Wether the Reliquary is aware of Vol'jin duplicity is unclear at this point.

Chapter 3: The Horde is Family (day 4) Chen has been a friend of Vol'jin's for a decade now, so when Chen called us to Kun-lai, it should have been a small surprise to know he was tending to a bedridden Vol'jin, poisoned in the battle a few days before. After some treatment, Vol'jin is aware enough to hand us a hearthstone - that serves as a distress signal to the one person Vol'jin trusts above all.
We thus teleport to the Valley of Trials, where Thrall and Aggra are teaching orclings. The Hearthstone's meaning is clear to Thrall - Vol'jin feared for his people, and trusted Thrall to help them in his absence. To Thrall, the Horde is a family that protects one another. Garrosh, not so much: the Echo Isles are under martial law, with orc warrior and warlocks keeping the trolls under constant watch.
To his chagrin, Thrall asks us to break the occupation by force. With the trolls freed, Thrall takes over leadership in Vol'jin's stead, mulling wether he has any right to force the Horde away from Garrosh's vision. He asks for our silence until he has found his own answer.



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So, it seems the boiling point is much closer than expected, in part due to Garrosh's heavy-handed methods. But considering we hardly heard a peep of the Alliance activity in Pandaria, I was wondering what was going on on your side, and wether you guys had heard something of the current tensions on the red side?
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby benebarba » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:49 am

Sagara wrote:So, it seems the boiling point is much closer than expected, in part due to Garrosh's heavy-handed methods. But considering we hardly heard a peep of the Alliance activity in Pandaria, I was wondering what was going on on your side, and wether you guys had heard something of the current tensions on the red side?


So far at the point I'm at: No. (but I've only got up to the point where we go find the 'retired' SI-7 agent at the brawler's guild... for what purpose, I'm not entirely sure yet.)

We have a scenario ('A little patience') and an couple intro quests that seem to be tailor-made to make the ally player base stop hating Varian. And, to be honest, it is kinda working. He openly discusses how he's come to appreciate compromise, and that he's not going to fight the war on the Horde's terms. Tyrande actually berates him for this in the scenario, but comes to understand after he breaks down and explains it to her at the end: basically that there's more to war than killing and dying in honorable combat, there's protecting what you love and not losing yourself in the process(at least that was my read on it).

But for the most part it's been: go kill horde, destroy their supply chain, and take care of whatever issue the archeologists have dug up.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Teranoid » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:20 am

Seeing Thrall made me want to flip my desk.

Good to know Metzen managed to go a whopping 2 1/2 fucking months before jamming him down our throats again.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Sagara » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:32 am

Well, at least he's on a bus in the Echo Isles for now. The datamined info doesn't point to him popping up again in the near future.
And to be honest, what non-Darkspear would have Vol'Jin turned to? Rexxar is in Outland, and Rokhan or Zen'tabra are trolls, and likely to be targeted first by anyone going after Vol'Jin.

... Ya know, I would have LOVED to have Rexxar instead.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:34 am

This could just be a final "why bringing Thrall back won't work" subplot, to close that off for good.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Sagara » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:40 am

KysenMurrin wrote:This could just be a final "why bringing Thrall back won't work" subplot, to close that off for good.


I'd rather have Vol'Jin (or someone else) move forward, and Thrall being the "Wise Hermit on the Mountain" that adventurers are sent to for guidance.
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:40 am

i dont think thrall is coming back at the end of MoP
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Newsom » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:41 am

Vol'jin is obviously the next warchief. Did you even read Thrall's dialogue during the quest? :P
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Re: Patch 5.1

Postby Sagara » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:43 am

Well, I don't remember anything being especially noteworthy on that front.

More like: "Ok guys, I'll fill in for Vl'jin during his sick leave. Where's the hookah?"
I'll go re-check.
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