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White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:25 pm
by Nikachelle
So I killed Sha of Anger for the first time, and the ret legs dropped. Despite the set bonus being useless to me, the stats are decent. However... take a look what they look like:

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Mmmm gone straight back into DS gear. >.<

Logged a bug report, since apparently everyone in my guild sees the bug as well.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:36 pm
by Petrus
Yeah, I noticed the same thing the other day when inspecting them via AtlasLoot. Haven't had time to log onto the forums and do a bug report, though.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:05 pm
by lakhesis
I had exactly the same thing happen.

Killed Sha in prot spec, got ret legs (I don't even have a ret spec), plus they look like T13.

Put in a ticket, ticket has just vanished - not even recorded on their status system. Hopefully at this point it's a known bug and something will be done about it.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:23 pm
by Nikachelle
lakhesis wrote:(I don't even have a ret spec)


Ditto. So I guess it just has the chance to drop a piece of tier, regardless of your spec or offspec.

I ended up logging a bug report in game.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:26 am
by Winkle
Well it can drop PvP gear too, it's basically the new TB.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:53 am
by Nikachelle
Winkle wrote:Well it can drop PvP gear too, it's basically the new TB.

Yeah, I just wasn't sure how the bag thing worked (for pve gear) since I haven't done LFR. I was curious as to whether or not the loot in the bag took into account your current spec or offspec.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:08 am
by degre
Nikachelle wrote:
Winkle wrote:Well it can drop PvP gear too, it's basically the new TB.

Yeah, I just wasn't sure how the bag thing worked (for pve gear) since I haven't done LFR. I was curious as to whether or not the loot in the bag took into account your current spec or offspec.

Won two items in actual raid in beta and both were for the spec in use, might have been chance, or could be that proper raids give you spec gear while world bosses behave like the pvp bosses they are and give any random piece of gear that you can equip.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:20 am
by Pruke
Killed Sha once and I was spec'd protection on my warrior and received the tier protection gloves.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:47 am
by Treck
Sha is suppose to be like LFR loot from what I understood, and LFR loot is not specc specific.
Unless theres a bluepost confirming its only suppose to give you what you are currently specced at (that i missed) I see no reason to think its not the same system.
For using the coins however, people are saying that IS specc specific, and so far none i know have gotten loot for the "wrong" specc in that, but Im still not convinced.
Maybe it has higher chance to be your specc, maybe it always had we just didnt think about it.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:13 pm
by Darielle
From testing, the extra roll from the charm snapshots the spec you were in at the time of the kill, and either awards gold or loot for that spec.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:04 pm
by Nikachelle
I was really leery about using my extra loot roll on Sha since I wasn't sure if it would spit out PvP gear for me if the extra roll won. I opted not to use my extra rolling thingy.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:08 pm
by KysenMurrin
Same here. Saving them for raids. Though speaking of loot on the Sha, I had no idea there was a quest item and didn't loot one. :(

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:41 pm
by Treck
you have to manually loot it, I know many who either forgot about it, or couldnt loot it cause the item was "busy", since 40people trying to loot at once.
However it should drop every time untill youve completed it.

Using gold coins on sha can be a big gamble, since it can give you everything from PvP loot to tier, tier however wont be available for another 4weeks, so its very tempting to use them now on sha, but I think its going to be a lot more usefull in heroic raids, using on a boss you are missing a significant item from.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:56 pm
by econ21
From what I've read, the charms give you a "small but not miniscule" chance at extra gear. Is that right? Because reading some posts, it sounds like several of you got lucky or is the chance not so small?

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:06 pm
by PsiVen
It's a pretty solid chance in a normal raid. My guess is that it's a lower chance on world bosses and Heroic raids, but higher in LFR. We won't really be able to tell unless they say so or the wowhead client finds a way to collect the relevant effective drop rates.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:26 pm
by Darielle
^ Most people will have done maybe 2-3 rolls at this point, 6 max. Even with friends involved for anecdotal evidence, sample sizes aren't exactly huge.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:22 pm
by lakhesis
Treck wrote:Sha is suppose to be like LFR loot from what I understood, and LFR loot is not specc specific.
Unless theres a bluepost confirming its only suppose to give you what you are currently specced at (that i missed) I see no reason to think its not the same system.
For using the coins however, people are saying that IS specc specific, and so far none i know have gotten loot for the "wrong" specc in that, but Im still not convinced.
Maybe it has higher chance to be your specc, maybe it always had we just didnt think about it.


Actually it is spec specific I believe. I don't think there's been a revision since the March Dev Watercooler which said:

"For each player who wins loot, the game randomly assigns them a spec-appropriate item from that boss’s loot table. This subset contains only items that the game (meaning the designers in this case) thinks are appropriate for your class and current spec."

Now they were talking about LFR there, and didn't expressly say that it was identical for the world boss implementations of the system, but I believe it's meant to be identical(?). He went on to talk about it not being an appropriate avenue for offspec or transmog gear.

The PVP gear is invariably arguable. I spose the ret pants are great prot stats, you'd just assume they're offspec prettymuch by definition. And the in-game loot list says we can get ret legs, prot legs & prot hands, but we can't get ret hands (crit/exp)... so they may be doing it by appropriate secondaries + pvp gear. But that's pretty broad definition of "spec-appropriate" :?

But the t13 look is just flat out weird.

PS. Remember that the gold coins are a weekly quest of 90 silver -> 3 gold, and you can only have a max of 10 gold coins. So you'll need to find something to spend at least a couple on early.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:34 pm
by Nikachelle
Lakhesis are you talking about extra loot rolls or just regular drops from Sha?

If you are referring to regular loot from Sha drops, then I can assure you that I got ret gloves while prot specced. I do not consider a ret item a spec appropriate item when my main spec is prot and my os is holy.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:30 pm
by theckhd
Nikachelle wrote:Lakhesis are you talking about extra loot rolls or just regular drops from Sha?

If you are referring to regular loot from Sha drops, then I can assure you that I got ret gloves while prot specced. I do not consider a ret item a spec appropriate item when my main spec is prot and my os is holy.

Ret tier gloves? Or non-tier gloves? Because I could see them coding prot being eligible for anything with some combination of hit/exp/haste/mastery (basically, anything that doesn't have crit).

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:56 pm
by Worldie
A friend of mine just got ret legs while specced prot from normal loot... The stats are actually awesome for prot, but still.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:20 am
by lakhesis
Nikachelle wrote:Lakhesis are you talking about extra loot rolls or just regular drops from Sha?

If you are referring to regular loot from Sha drops, then I can assure you that I got ret gloves while prot specced. I do not consider a ret item a spec appropriate item when my main spec is prot and my os is holy.


I'm talking about the regular drops from Sha, not extra rolls. My experience with the ret legs was exactly identical to yours.

The loot list I'm referring to is the Dungeon Journal loot table on my tankadin, with it set to show Protection gear.

On that setting, it lists the Prot Legs + Gloves, Ret Pants, 2x PVP str boots, PVP str ring, 2x PVP str belt, PVP str gloves, 2x PVP str wrists, PVP str back, mount & cache. All the PVP stuff is 483 malevolent gladiator & some of it isn't horrendous (e.g. hit/mast, hit/haste, haste/mast).

But it doesn't include the Ret Gloves - did you get them as well as the pants? I can vaguely understand the ret pants, but the ret tier gloves dropping for prot would just be silly imo. Not a fan of off-spec or pvp drops, although I can understand why they might try to make Sha's loot table broader & more mediocre.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:53 am
by Nikachelle
My mistake, I meant ret tier legs, not the gloves.

Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:42 pm
by Nikachelle
All fixed now! Wooohooo!

Not sure how much I love the "I just dragged my pants through a wood chipper" look going on at the bottom... but it's certainly better than still being in DS gear!

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Re: White Tiger Tier Displaying Wrong Graphics?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:49 pm
by culhag
The Deepwater Greatboots still don't use the model they were obviously made for, though.