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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Fenris » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:15 pm

halabar wrote:
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KysenMurrin wrote:I'll just bank em. Once you've exalted on all the reps, you can use your bankload for most of the weekly and only do the dailies you're actually interested in.

That if you are lucky to have free bank space

I'm not :cry:


Considering they convert to free loot rolls, you'd trash them? You can find space somewhere.


I have 1 month worth of conversions already

With 3 more days of coins left this week

That's the main problem,you get them at 10x the speed you can use them :lol:
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby KysenMurrin » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:30 pm

Only if you're doing all the dailies constantly. Later in the expac you'll be glad to have built up a stockpile.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Fenris » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:40 pm

Sure,but right now it's a problem (and one they could easily solve by making the stack higher or,even better,storing them in the currency tab and not as phisical tokens)
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Zalaria » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:28 pm

That's what I've wondered since I first got some on beta - why aren't they on the currency tab? Maybe they can't use currencies as quest requirements?
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Treck » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:41 pm

Wondering the same but I think the mark of the world tree worked sorta the same? or was they only to buy things?
I honestly dont think its something hard for them to fix, if its not already there in some way.
I guess its cause your collecting and shit, they just decided to keep it as a bag item.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby PsiVen » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:03 pm

I can't imagine actually doing ALL the dailies every day. It would be pretty horrifying if that was what it took to get the coins, especially months from now when we're exalted with everything.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Treck » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:22 am

I hope by the time we are exalted we will have enough coins to not have to bother with them ever again.
But, in all fairness you really only need to get 90 a week, and thats pretty simple.
If you then want to go for valor rewards, you wont be able to buy everything anyway.
Before you buy your first item you obviously wanna keep your options available, thus getting rep with pretty much everything.
But atm, its really only Golden Lotus rep that matters, once you get revered iirc with them, you start going for the other 2 (shado pan and august celestials?) Klaxxi also have a few valor gear ofcourse but you prolly wanna look for what piece you are gonna buy first and just go for those.

We have people in the guild who has stockpiled the silver coins, having around 300-500, and they arnt exalted with all factions yet either, meaning theres definately more to gain.
And while you could use them on every single boss to get more loot, you really wont anyway.
In future content patches they will surely implement new quests to get coins when we are exalted with all factions currently.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Passionario » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:53 am

Zalaria wrote:Maybe they can't use currencies as quest requirements?


They can. (Re: Marks of the World Tree)
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby halabar » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:11 am

and now it's the daily rolling restarts, since the hotfixes weren't good enough. So much for leveling the hunter today. 15 minute restart is going on 90 minutes...

Edit: Apparently they did a restart so they could break the login servers. :roll: This is what happens when you do a restart while your Eagles-fan technician is plugging cables into the wrong ports as he watches Vick drop the ball over and over again.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Koatanga » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:47 am

I don't know about you guys, but I have people in guild wanting me to tank heroics so they can get gear to raid with. That eats into my grinding-dailies time quite severely.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Worldie » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:59 am

We have several offspec tanks who help in our guild, so not much spam here.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Darielle » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:38 pm

Fenris wrote:Sure,but right now it's a problem (and one they could easily solve by making the stack higher or,even better,storing them in the currency tab and not as phisical tokens)


It's not really ever a problem. If you've been raiding this week, you've probably used at least 3 Elder Charms by now, and from next week onwards, you add LFR and there's 12 "bosses" to use them on - there is no way to generate enough to be able to use that many on the bosses while they're relevant.

Maybe if completing the tier and having nothing to use them on and wanting to stockpile to use them on Tier 15 stuff, but that's what the quest/conversion throttles, so it limits someone rolling into T15.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby fuzzygeek » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:45 pm

Using tokens in LFR seems like a terrible horrible idea. Am I missing something?
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Worldie » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:59 am

They work on normal and possibly Heroic bosses. Why would you waste them on LFR?
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Darielle » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:16 am

Referring in the context of people who aren't raiding Heroic or don't plan to, or even people who just want a temporary shot at being as ready as possible to bump walls into Heroic without guarantees of how far into Heroic they can go. Core idea being that with multiple difficulties opening up next week, you can't really get to a point where you have so many Charms and not enough places to use them; after all, shooting for a trinket/weapon off Elegon-LFR if it didn't drop in Normal is probably still going to be worth it if you're at 10 Charms and waiting for worthwhile things to drop.

Similar effect being true when HEart of Fear and Terrace open up.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:01 am

I'd still say with the 3-per-week limit, you're best off saving anything beyond what you use in Normal or Heroic so that when you're up to the full set of raids open you can still get as much out of them as possible. Yeah, for the people racing to world firsts getting any upgrades they can as soon as they can will be worthwhile, but that's a very small group.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby halabar » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:46 am

KysenMurrin wrote:I'd still say with the 3-per-week limit, you're best off saving anything beyond what you use in Normal or Heroic so that when you're up to the full set of raids open you can still get as much out of them as possible. Yeah, for the people racing to world firsts getting any upgrades they can as soon as they can will be worthwhile, but that's a very small group.


And of course, a good look at the loot tables to see what bosses you want to prioritize... hopefully there's not much if any of the shared loot table bs.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby PsiVen » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:58 pm

Another hotfix today, this time a winner!

Avoidance will now increase Vengeance by an average hit's worth, instead of just refreshing the buff by an average of damage already taken. That should be a nice little buff, especially for Guardian Druids.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Darielle » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:36 pm

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Previous behaviour meant you could stand in Annihilate and use Dodging to get maximum duration out of insane Vengeance. It'll probably wash out even in general, but we'll see.

Although I am completely looking forward to how that's going to interact with Sha of Fear.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Darielle » Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:09 am

Seal of Insight is awesome. It's flipping annoying with random threat, but it is awesome.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Fenris » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:47 am

And now,they hotfixed the darkmoon card to make it less awful.

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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Pruke » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:33 am

Fenris wrote:And now,they hotfixed the darkmoon card to make it less awful.

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What are the changes? Im at work and pretty interested.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Worldie » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:46 am

added passive 1434 stamina
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby PsiVen » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:01 pm

Was this a hotfix I missed? It's already live (tooltip says 15%, actual stam bonus looks like 25%). I don't see any change since last Tuesday.

Guarded by the Light now increases your total Stamina by 25%, up from 15%.
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Re: Hotfixes...hotfixes...Always the hotfixes

Postby Fenris » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:44 pm

PsiVen wrote:Was this a hotfix I missed? It's already live (tooltip says 15%, actual stam bonus looks like 25%). I don't see any change since last Tuesday.

Guarded by the Light now increases your total Stamina by 25%, up from 15%.


They never fixed the tooltip after changing the thing in the last weeks of the beta,seems they are doing it now /togheter with a ton of other tooltips updates from older/newer hotfixes)
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