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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Skye1013 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:30 pm

Not saying the Windrider is exceptional, just stating what it has and that it's one of the few I have experience with. That being said, the damage increase from Flock combos well with the Mini-Thor's DoT and Grenade.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:12 pm

New Raid Pets:

2/3 from MC
3/3 from BWL (soloed Razorgore too, though it took a few tries)
0/2 from AQ40 (couldn't solo Viscidius with my hunter)
1/3 from Naxx(10)

Not too bad. Hopefully a mage friend is going to help me with the last guy in AQ40.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:19 am

So I finally went and did some more PvE pet battles. Started with the last Cata guy (in Uldum) and went thru Grand Master Aki. Only 1 loss, which was nice - all the Panda guys have "legendary" pets.

Tried the first of the new "Pandaria Spirit Tamers", got destroyed. Ouch.

My "main" team is now the Fel Flame, Clockwork Gnome, and Oily Slimeling. The Slimeling is great for this group - he has a shorter-duration Wild Magic-type effect (making the Gnome's [Turret] ridiculous) that also has a DoT of its own, plus a strong heal. The only issue is that it takes more damage from the Flame's [Scorched Earth] but it's so strong I can live with that for now.

Notes:
- DoTs and effects from dead pets now tick normally.
- [Turret] doesn't hit flying/burrowed stuff anymore. Hopefully that means that the [Poison Spit] weirdness is fixed, and possibly the [Reflect]/flying one as well, though I haven't tried those.
- I got a [Perfect Critter Stone] - upgrades a Critter pet from anything to rare. Did quite a few "wild" battles and only got one, so those seem pretty rare.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Gab » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:00 am

Jabari wrote:New Raid Pets:

2/3 from MC
3/3 from BWL (soloed Razorgore too, though it took a few tries)
0/2 from AQ40 (couldn't solo Viscidius with my hunter)
1/3 from Naxx(10)

Not too bad. Hopefully a mage friend is going to help me with the last guy in AQ40.


Similar to my numbers:

2/3 MC
2/3 BWL
2/3 AQ40
1/3 Naxx (25)

Drop rates seem pretty good from my experiences and from what I have heard from others.

I'm not sure about hunters but as a Ret paladin I easily soloed Viscidius. I imagine hunters should have an easier time.

I just bought a Brunnhildar Harpoon for the frost damage (hunter can use the bow). They are sold by Warsmith Sigfinna in Storm Peaks. I have also heard you can use Frost Oil but with only a 10% proc chance it sounds like it would take a lot longer.

I was wearing haste heavy Ret gear and using haste food and elixir. I froze him using the Harpoon then switched to a 1.6 one hander and popped Kafa Press and had no trouble shattering him, I think I had a lot of time to spare so the Kafa Press might not be necessary.

Hunters should have it a lot easier when it comes to shattering thanks to Zoo. Stampede, Dire beast, crows and your normal pet should be more than enough to shatter in time.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:11 am

Viscidus
Viscidus now remains frozen for 30 seconds (was 15), and it takes 30 hits to shatter Viscidus (was 50).
The Twin Emperors
The recast time for Heal Brother has been increased to 3 seconds (was 2).
C'thun
Players now have 5 minutes to escape C'thun's stomach and resume the battle before it resets.
Al'ar
Al'ar and Ember of Al'ar are no longer immune to fire damage.
Reliquary of Souls
Spirit Shock now has a 15 second recast time (was 0 seconds).
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby halabar » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:30 am

Is the Darkmoon rabbit any good? Bidding on one for a low price, but considering just flipping it on another server.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Invisusira » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:16 pm

0/3 MC
0/3 BWL
3/3 AQ
1/3 Naxx
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:20 pm

Flex wrote:C'thun
Players now have 5 minutes to escape C'thun's stomach and resume the battle before it resets.

That's.... more time than the entire fight takes to complete...

Then again, I never had an issue with the fight resetting, just getting eaten then one shot because nobody was outside the stomach.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Worldie » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:50 am

So how do you solo Razorgore anyway. Clean up the shit after every mind control, or ignore adds completely and just focus on eggs?
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:11 am

Worldie wrote:So how do you solo Razorgore anyway. Clean up the shit after every mind control, or ignore adds completely and just focus on eggs?

Ack, sorry - I put this into the 5.1 thread instead of here.

Also, I was able to do Razorgore - it took a few tries to figure it out, but was pretty easy once I did, even with my non-healing petless hunter:
- Kill the 3 guys next to the Orb, quick.
- Use Orb, start killing eggs at the back of the room (furthest from orb). Get anything near you, then get all of them that are up on the back platform, come down the other side, and go side-to-side across the room, back to front.
- The first Orb will run out after 90 seconds - Razorgore still should be near the back of the room - kill everything hitting you and when Razorgore gets toward the front of the room use the Orb again. He may still have a few guys beating on him but that's ok.
- This time, start with the 2 eggs up on the Orb's platform, and then kill the rest of them - you should be done with all of them with both of you at reasonable health still.

The trick is to really spam the "destory egg" button - it only has a 1 second cooldown and you need to kill eggs and move really quick. The hunter has an advantage that he can pick off a few guys beating on Razorgore in between "controls", but Razorgore had so much health at the end (1/3) when I did it right it really shouldn't matter.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Fenris » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:45 pm

I hate the darkmoon daily battle

I really,really hate it...
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:08 pm

Fenris wrote:I hate the darkmoon daily battle

I really,really hate it...

Why? It's not particularly hard.

(Plus I can take whichever "alt of the day" there and pick up the WHEEEE bonus too *laugh*)

Now, I haven't gotten anything good from the rewards yet, true. Not a (good) reason to hate it though.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:27 pm

I finally levelled some of my pets to 20, and my Crawdad got "Wish" (50% heal on following turn, 5 round cooldown). Went into a PvP battle, then won without changing my pet at all. Crawdad just kept going, and going, and going...
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:32 pm

Decided to knock out some Pet Battle achievements this weekend.

* Finished up the Cataclysm and Pandaria tamers. Still have the spirit tamers to do.
* Caught a bunch of the new world rares.
* Power leveled a bunch of higher level rares to have more balance of level 25 pets (the fix to not split XP at max level pets is great). I still need to do an aquatic with actual aquatic attacks still, my turtle only has one and it is weaker than the other slot attack since it prevents swapping.
* Got 400 Pet Battle achievement points to get the tentacle. That pet looks very tanky. Shield, HoT and Thorns all usable at the same time.

I really dig the combo of Dark Whelpling and Panderan Monk. Call Darkness blinds everyone, swap in the monk with an attack that stuns blinded targets and then follow up with an attack that deals double damage to stunned targets.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Maat » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:45 pm

If you want a strong pet to, give the Anubisath Idol a spin. Reflect + Sandstorm + humanoid passive is like having a pocket protadin! Takes longer and can't really use it against beasts or other tank/heal pets, but it really softens the RNG. I use it to duo (solo sometimes) 75% of the Pandaria trainers for that sweet lowbie XP.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:11 am

Frickin finally got a Giraffe Calf. Left with the Minfernal and Qiraji Guardian as the only pets left to catch for Kalimdor Safari and the meta achievement.

The Infinite Whelpling looks to have a strong combo of attacks. A 100% damage increase if the user has lower health than the target, a tail sweep that deals extra damage if you go second and a slow enough speed to take advantage of those combos..
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Fenrìr » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:35 pm

Worldie wrote:So how do you solo Razorgore anyway. Clean up the shit after every mind control, or ignore adds completely and just focus on eggs?



It really depends on what you go in with. As a paladin, I spec into Eternal Flame and Light's Hammer and cancel the MC every 20-30 seconds. There's no rush to finish the fight really.

Personally, I start with the eggs on the MC side and work away from the platform. I pretty much MC Razor the entire first 90 seconds and then afterwords, break the MC every 20-30 seconds. Kill the adds immediately in my area and before Razor gets to me, cast a 3 holy power EF and really MC. The healing agro from EF is more than enough to get and keep adds on me.

You really have to keep the adds off of Razor cause eventually, they'll just overwhelm him. And the conflag he does is not something you cast on yourself cause it really negates the purpose of canceling the MC. So you have to be quick killing the adds around you on the platform...like less than 10 seconds.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:02 pm

Easiest way is to just hit him with a Lay on Hands if he gets low, in tank spec your health is almost as high as his, if not higher.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:58 am

Flex wrote:Frickin finally got a Giraffe Calf. Left with the Minfernal and Qiraji Guardian as the only pets left to catch for Kalimdor Safari and the meta achievement.


Wow nice! Can't get the Qiraji until summer, and I've given up on getting a Minfernal - there are always like 8 people camping that area (way more than for Onyxian or Scourged Whelplings).

Got [Raiding with Leashes] (Viscidius finally dropped its miniature), and now I'm close enough to Brood exalted I should probably just get it. (1 or 2 more weeks max) Still haven't beaten any of the Pandaria Spirit Tamers yet, need a little more variety in my 25s, particularly a good Aquatic. :(

On the bright side, I haven't seen any blatantly-bad bugs like before!
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Zobel » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:44 am

Jabari wrote:particularly a good Aquatic

Eternal striders are plentiful and have a good nuke (pump) and self healing.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Worldie » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:43 pm

Flex wrote:Easiest way is to just hit him with a Lay on Hands if he gets low, in tank spec your health is almost as high as his, if not higher.

I could solo it np on my pala by casting sacred shield and execution sentence on him every minute or so and aoeing all the shit around me before re-MCing.

Just wondering however how to solo it with a different class that doesnt have a HoT.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby fuzzygeek » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:47 pm

I've got an Ooze at 21 with a 16 spectral cub and 11 celestial dragon. I've been grinding the ooze since he has a pair of dots and an absorb, so generally doesn't have too much trouble killing an entire team himself.

Is there some way of making the grind from 21-25 less awful? Am I better off leveling a full team at a time or working on a one-off? Is there some way other than flying around trying to find random critters to level?
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Zobel » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:21 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:I've got an Ooze at 21 with a 16 spectral cub and 11 celestial dragon. I've been grinding the ooze since he has a pair of dots and an absorb, so generally doesn't have too much trouble killing an entire team himself.

Is there some way of making the grind from 21-25 less awful? Am I better off leveling a full team at a time or working on a one-off? Is there some way other than flying around trying to find random critters to level?


Random battles and pet trainer battles. Some of the trainers (like Farmer Nishi) are easy to beat with nearly any group. Others can be soloed or duoed with particular level 25 pets (e.g. Grandmaster Aki can be soloed with an Anubisath Idol), freeing you to swap in lower level pets. Each trainer can be done once per day, and the easy ones you'll want to hit everyday. It's nice to get 5,000 xp in a couple minutes' effort.

There seems to be a certain amount of xp available each battle, split among your <25 participants. So you might as well pair one <25 pet with two 25 pets, to quicken the pace.

You can also pick your zones based on which pet type you're leveling -- that magic ooze would probably do well against all those flying bugs in the Jade Forest.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Finkum » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:55 pm

Jabari wrote:Still haven't beaten any of the Pandaria Spirit Tamers yet, need a little more variety in my 25s, particularly a good Aquatic. :(


I find that Snails are the best counter to the Spirit Tamer elementals. They are critters, so take reduced elemental damage, have naturally large HP pools, and have Dive, which is strong against elementals, plus you can use it to avoid telegraphed attacks. The Thundering Spirit also has a stun and a second move with a 25% chance to stun, so the critter passive is invaluable there (Thundering is definitely the toughest of the 4 to beat).

fuzzygeek wrote:I've got an Ooze at 21 with a 16 spectral cub and 11 celestial dragon. I've been grinding the ooze since he has a pair of dots and an absorb, so generally doesn't have too much trouble killing an entire team himself.

Is there some way of making the grind from 21-25 less awful? Am I better off leveling a full team at a time or working on a one-off? Is there some way other than flying around trying to find random critters to level?


Until you have 3+ 25s, there isn't any easy way to speed up the grind. Once you do, as Zobel suggests, you can power-level a single lowbie pet by pairing it with 2 strong 25s and doing the Pandaria dailies. It's easy to get a level 1 all the way to level 25 in one set of dailies.

Typically I will do Grandmaster Aki first (swap the level 1 in when the cricket pet is healing, or when the otter is about to Dive, so it takes no damage), Farmer Nishi second (your pet will need to be at least level 2 to survive the sunflower's Sunlight attack), and then the Water Spirit third (two pets cast Tidal Wave frequently, so your pet needs to be level 12+ to survive). At this point your lowbie pet will be 17 or 18 and should be able to survive any of the other trainers with the possible exception of Thundering Spirit.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:18 pm

Finkum wrote:Until you have 3+ 25s, there isn't any easy way to speed up the grind. Once you do, as Zobel suggests, you can power-level a single lowbie pet by pairing it with 2 strong 25s and doing the Pandaria dailies. It's easy to get a level 1 all the way to level 25 in one set of dailies.


Thanks for the pointers; still working on the first 25 and will likely just buy a few 25s once I finish the ooze; on my realm a random sampling ranges from 7-15k for level 25 pets.

Or maybe not. I'm still not quite sure why I'm doing this at all, other than it's there.
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