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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:05 pm

Teranoid wrote:It just feels weird trivializing certain things. Like I tried the 3 undead pet deal on Nitun and got absolutely obliterated. Used a alpine fox howl/dazzling and then 2 shot him with my Kun-Lai runt. Fuck Dos-Ryga though :<


*shrug*

That kind of thing is going to happen sometimes with such rock-paper-scissors mechanics.

As far as the BoF go, you can do all of them (except No-No) easily with a Val'kyr/Water Spirit/<something with Howl, though Chrominius is best>.

UA -> Doom -> Geyser -> Whirlpool -> swap to Chrominius -> Howl. Everything hits all at once under Howl+UA and the BoF just dies. If it doesn't, then Surge of Power on the next turn will do the trick.
(This doesn't work on NoNo - dive and barrier block everything.)

PvP is a bit more fun, though I'm just about tired of baby direhorns and Fiendish Imps... It also can be a bit breed-dependent - you'll need to look for specific types of some pets (usually S/S (pure speed) breeds). That can be annoying.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Teranoid » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:13 pm

No-No was a dick.. till I just introduced him to my Moth army :P
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Ruldar » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:03 am

That Val'kyr/Water Spirit/Chrominius combination sounds like a lot of fun, but I gave up on the BoF quests after the changes in 5.3. I spent weeks chain running it in 5.2 though, so I had already gotten pretty much everything out of it that I wanted (as in, lots of blue upgrade stones).
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:20 am

BoF seem doubly effected by Stampede, at least when I did them regularly post change, as it looked like it completely negated their 50% damage reduction. I'd have my Direhorn Runt stampede and then do the always go first rush attack and it'd hit for near 4 digits.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:32 am

Teranoid wrote:No-No was a dick.. till I just introduced him to my Moth army :P


LOL yeah, same thing I do to him!

Ruldar wrote:That Val'kyr/Water Spirit/Chrominius combination sounds like a lot of fun, but I gave up on the BoF quests after the changes in 5.3. I spent weeks chain running it in 5.2 though, so I had already gotten pretty much everything out of it that I wanted (as in, lots of blue upgrade stones).


Ah. That's actually what I'm after now - I need a Humanoid stone for my Moonlight team. Sporeling Sprouts are rare enough, and have way too many breeds. Found the S/S one I was after but it's a poor - need a stone for it. 3 bags from them is nice now instead of just 1!

Flex wrote:BoF seem doubly effected by Stampede, at least when I did them regularly post change, as it looked like it completely negated their 50% damage reduction. I'd have my Direhorn Runt stampede and then do the always go first rush attack and it'd hit for near 4 digits.


Interesting. I somehow still don't have a runt - I have like 900 bones (close to the porcupette!) and haven't seen a drop yet. :(
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Amirya » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:36 pm

Argh. I'm now getting into this because I really want the Qiraji Guardling I saw flitting about yesterday. And somehow, I picked up a trio of Arcane Eyes, and a single Restless Shadeling, too.

I was thinking of leapfrogging to 25, and getting my Anubisath whatever up because I like his sandstorm ability.

Any other tips?
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Teranoid » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:46 pm

Well one tip is don't get attached to Sandstorm because it's getting the shit nerfed out of it.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:41 pm

Amirya wrote:Argh. I'm now getting into this because I really want the Qiraji Guardling I saw flitting about yesterday. And somehow, I picked up a trio of Arcane Eyes, and a single Restless Shadeling, too.

I was thinking of leapfrogging to 25, and getting my Anubisath whatever up because I like his sandstorm ability.

Any other tips?


What do you want to do with it? Just collecting stuff or doing pet PvP?

Either way, it's probably best to just leapfrog to 25 (should be easy now that you have the Eyes - I think you can go to Dragonblight and get lvl 23-ish bone condors with those), and then you can level anything else up pretty quickly with the tamer dailies.

Teranoid wrote:Well one tip is don't get attached to Sandstorm because it's getting the shit nerfed out of it.


No different than what they did to Call Darkness. Not sure why Moonlight and Blizzard get exempted - those should all act the same. *shrug* Sandstorm will still be very good.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Amirya » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:04 pm

Just collecting, I'm not big into pvp, and I can't imagine pet pvp is any better. I like to assign a particular pet to a particular alt (like the crimson whelpling with my paladin), so the more unique, the better.

Thanks, I'll try and hit Dragonblight tonight with the Eyes, then, take a look and see what happens.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby jere » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:37 am

Now that I've figured out that the Anub Idol can solo two of the 3 VoEB trainer pets (sometimes all 3), I've been using it in tandam with the VotFW trainer to help boost up mid level pets quickly (level 10+).

Are there any other trainers that are significantly weak to certain pets (aside from the obvious snail<->elemental bosses)?

For reference, the Anub's shield totally neuters any damage/debuff from the cricket, his deflection removes the big lightning storm hit from the dragon, the shield blocks the extra damage from lighting storm, and his big dragon attack (crush??) kills the dragon pretty quickly. If he doesn't have some unlucky misses, he can also take out most of the aquatic pet too so your lowbie can finish the job.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Amirya » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:10 am

I need to get my Idol up a bit more, then I will probably level him in tandem with my blue Unborn Val'kyr. But so far, I can't quite figure out the purpose of needing to hit level 25 on pets in BC just to beat Antari, because I really really dislike that motherfucker.

(My team for him is a blue Wild Crimson Hatchling, a blue Eternal Strider, and a green Masked Tanuki.)
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:09 am

jere wrote:Are there any other trainers that are significantly weak to certain pets (aside from the obvious snail<->elemental bosses)?
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... so your lowbie can finish the job.


First, no need for the lowbie to finish the job. Start with Anub, cast Sandstorm, swap to lowbie, then immediately swap back to the Anub. Sandstorm blocks all damage to the lowbie so it's safe for that turn, and once it's "exposed" for a turn it'll get XP. Just use a random flyer (i.e., a moth) to get the last guy (aquatic, IIRC).

The Anub can also take out the first two pets from Yon (Kun-lai). Use a random Mech for the last guy. Similar deal swapping the lowbie in, though you'll want to make sure it doesn't get hit by the Fly attack. (Use Deflection for that)

Note that you can actually level pets from level 1 for both of those.

I also use Moruk (Krasarong) and Zusshi (Townlong) to level pets, but the lowbie actually has to (usually) do some work for both of those, so I only do those with my level 20-ish ones. *shrug* Don't have my notes with me, can't remember what I use. (Pretty sure Clockwork and Moth for Mo'ruk, though)
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:33 am

Infinite Whelpling can take out nearly the entire Air Spirit team itself. Toss in a snail or dragonkin for a backup pet and you should be good.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby jere » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:01 am

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/2660 ... -incoming/


Like any good webmasters, we look at World of Warcraft site stats on a regular basis, and we're always evaluating which aspects of the site people find most useful. Over time, we've identified a few areas that players don't really seem to visit but that still require a bit of effort for us to keep updated each time we release a new content update. For most of these, it's pretty obvious why they don't draw a lot of attention-they tend to focus on things that are simply more compelling to look at inside the game, are a "given," or are already well-served and readily available elsewhere, like on fansites.

Early next week we'll be doing some cleanup and removing the following rarely visited, higher-maintenance sections from the World of Warcraft website:



Character Profiles

Pets & Mounts
Hunter Pets
Professions
Reputation


Kinda sad to see this go. Any other websites provided this functionality outside of game (don't always have access to the game when I use it)? Specifically seeing which pets I personally don't have vs have. The only sites I have seen so far either weren't up to date or had me manually enter all my pets, which will take forever on a 500+ collection
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:13 am

Warcraftpets.com is a great place for you to find what pets you don't have.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Teranoid » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:36 am

Removing all those sections just reeks of laziness. The fact the recipes page listed recipes that never survived betas of expansions was a testament to how little of a shit they actually gave about those sections of the armory.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Nooska » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:29 am

Of the three mentioned there, I'm most sad to see reputation go away, I've actually used that once in a while when not in game and trying to plan something.

I think they confuse "rarely visiited" with "not useful", the same as "most visited" with "most useful" - seing the frontpage etc may be mostloy visited, but aside from guild applications, and general vanity (and webistes crawling), most check-ups are done just because, and not out of any real usefulness.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Fenrìr » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:17 am

Yea, I concur, Nooska; esp given I just glanced at it to look at a guildie's alt.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:41 am

The third party API is still there for those sections which is how outside sites will continue to work. I'm just guessing there's significant frontend work to make the backend data look decent.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Amirya » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:32 am

It's a small bit of a pity, my roommate decided to crawl through my own battle pets, and ask me where I got what, when, and if it's useful.

So far, the best part is him ignoring me when I tell him that Unborn Val'kyr is rarely spawned, can't be really farmed (waste more time in flight going through the whole continent than just a zone), can't be force-spawned, and the places I showed you on the map is an approximation of location.

"You told me it spawns on the road of Scourgeholme! But the coordinates say it's off the road."

"....well yes, but if you follow the road, it should still show up on your minimap. Also, I said along, and not on."
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Worldie » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:36 am

Why farm the Valkyr when you can just find it on the first spawn you check ever as I did

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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:39 am

I got the Valk on my last run through of spawn points for the night. Got it, rared it up with one of my 2 undead stones and 3 tamer battles later got her to 25.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Amirya » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:06 am

I found the Val'kyr on my third run - the first run was literally all of Northrend, because I was that bored. The second run was just around Icecrown. And so was the third - she had spawned at the point nearest Shadow Vault.

Not only does he fly over the area, he runs circles around it five or six times, like it will magically appear. Then stops to check out every single cockroach in the non-spawn areas lol
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Newsom » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:16 pm

Nooska wrote:Of the three mentioned there, I'm most sad to see reputation go away, I've actually used that once in a while when not in game and trying to plan something.

I think they confuse "rarely visiited" with "not useful", the same as "most visited" with "most useful" - seing the frontpage etc may be mostloy visited, but aside from guild applications, and general vanity (and webistes crawling), most check-ups are done just because, and not out of any real usefulness.


Yeah. As someone who has maxed almost all reputations possible (just Nat Pagle left...) I'm really sad to the reputation section going away from the armory. I can't imagine it's that much work to keep that tiny section up to date?
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Nooska » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:37 am

Same, I mean, there is more to it thanjust that, but it is basically setting up a new faction bar under the correct header, drawing information from the backend (where the information will ostensibly still be).
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