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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Nooska » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:50 am

fo mount, hordeside I recoomend the good old plain windrider. You can use it in nofly areas (including if you can't fly yet), and its about the smallest mount you can get.
Also remember to keep [Shift]+[v] ready for the ones trying to block you by standing on top of questgivers etc.

(should really get myself a travellers tundra mammoth, the vendor is invaluable while levelling with all the trash you pick up)
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:30 am

Progress on my test run: Started with only 12 dailies to turn in, now level 86 after 2.5 hours. Certain that I would have saved 20 minutes by having the full 25 dailies, allowing me to leave Jade Forest without going to Tian Monastery. Still seems slow, especially when this is on a much less crowded zone than it will be live.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby stevos » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:32 am

Just realised that i should make a load of drums/scrolls of fort to give me a little more survivability/dps.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:21 am

Ignoring Chen Stormstout and all his slow "fallow me to the next stop" quests means running out of quests around Halfhill in Vot4W. I'm going to cut to Krasarang now and see how that goes.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:28 am

The rate I'm seeing on Beta, is that I'm going to have to do both Krasarang and Vot4W just to get to 90. I'm probably 3/4 of the way done with the Dread Wastes and only 55% through 89. And I've completed all the quests in Vot4W, Kun Lai and Townlong.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:55 am

Are you in a level 6+ guild on beta, for the 10% xp perk? That'll make a difference (none of my own beta toons are guilded).
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:07 am

Ah, no, I am not guilded on beta. Now I'm wondering how much of a difference that is going to make.




EDIT: But I think I'm going to stick to my original plan either way. The guild perk will probably make up this 20% difference I'm at now.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:08 am

10% is a lot. Should make a big difference. Depends on if you keep skipping ahead when you ding or if you stick around a bit, though, otherwise it'll only affect the last zone.

Should I pack a bunch of Landslide scrolls and take a few seconds to enchant new weapons?
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:10 am

Eh, I didn't replace my Heroic Gurth until mid lvl 88. Then I got a minor upgrade at around mid 89. If anything, I'm going to put on a weapon chain as there are a few mobs I've ran into that disarm.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:11 am

I have double Normal No'Kaled, and I was finding weapons with 100-150 dps advantage by the time I was in Kun Lai. Didn't replace a single item prior to Kun Lai, but replaced almost my entire gear set by the end of it. I only have 4 heroic items.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:14 am

So I'm a bit under 85% through 89 being unguilded and ran out of quests in Dread Wastes minus the dailies. So I'm hoping the guild perk makes up that difference so long as I stick to my original plan.



Kysen, then ya...I would probably upgrade when you can. I was really hesitate to break my H T13 4p bonus for a while until I found something with 50+ strength on the item to replace what I was losing. I would probably still recommend having a weapon chain on 1 weapon though.






EDIT: For those of you who were guilded for the xp bonus, how was the quest number for moving on to each of the new zones once you lvled?


EDIT2: WTB ability to ride on water like Warlocks and Dks.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:50 am

Welp, I'm at 89% of the way to level 87 without a guild, and have run out of quests in Vot4W. If I had guild bonus I'd be either just dinged 87 or very close. Gonna have to go back and do Chen Stormstout some more, without it.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:07 am

Did you push all the way through JF?
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:03 am

No, that was having moved directly to Vot4W. With guild bonus, and if I'd done at least Mudmug's hut on the Chen chain, I would've been 87.

In other news, you know how Blizz has added little treasure items all over the map? Some of them have an item that vendors for 100g, some of them contain a little gold on their own... I found one in Kun ai that gave me 258,000 exp. I gather from some blue comment recently that they spawn on a single-player basis rather than randomly and there for everyone, and I think you can only get each treasure once...
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby halabar » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:26 am

I'm wondering if gathering will be of benefit for leveling. Depends on the competition for nodes I guess.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:29 am

Kun Lai is proving to be the quickest and easiest levelling so far. Will finish the full zone on this one. (Except for Temple of the White Tiger, which is one combat quest and a couple chat sessions with a lot of running to get there.)

I'm really not doing great on time here - 8 hours in, almost 88. Will have mount speed, flight path speed, and bonus xp on live, plus flasks and potions, but the time its taking just feels bad. Taking breaks on the trial run so I don't burn myself out before the real one, but not sure how familiar I'll be with the final couple of zones in the end.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Nooska » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:46 am

Has the "Pandaren Prisoners quest been fixed on the beta (asking those powering through Kun-Lai)
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:48 pm

Not yet. Still no prisoners. Doesn't seem to be a prerequisite for anything, though, so you can complete with out.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:49 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:No, that was having moved directly to Vot4W. With guild bonus, and if I'd done at least Mudmug's hut on the Chen chain, I would've been 87.

In other news, you know how Blizz has added little treasure items all over the map? Some of them have an item that vendors for 100g, some of them contain a little gold on their own... I found one in Kun ai that gave me 258,000 exp. I gather from some blue comment recently that they spawn on a single-player basis rather than randomly and there for everyone, and I think you can only get each treasure once...



I've found a couple of those as well. Was kind of surprised.

So they're player based and not server based, that's interesting.



EDIT: Also rares give double xp than a quest I noticed.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:55 pm

Yeah, I found where I read it:
Escapist interview with Ghostcrawler, last page.
The Escapist: Is there something about this expansion that you're excited about but that no one has discovered yet?

Greg Street: The features I'm most excited about are things like challenge mode that have been talked about a lot. I'd say one thing that's flown under the radar a little bit, it's not something I'm super, it's not a huge game changer, but it's a kind of cool thing is we've hidden a lot of, we call them lost treasures around the world, in the new continent and a few achievements to support it. You find these if you look behind a waterfall or fly up on the top of a mountain there might be something cool hidden up there. It could be an actual item you could use or it may just be something you can sell for gold or some kind of toy like that. We really wanted to emphasize exploration because Pandaren is such a beautiful environment.

The Escapist: Are these analogous the chests that used to dot the world?

Greg Street: Yeah, they're similar. Part of the problem with the chests was they would, players could exploit them by constantly camping it, coming back to the chests over and over again. You were constantly finding these chests that say like, two apples in them because another player had come and looted all the good stuff out of it. But the way most of these treasures work is they're per player so once you find it you'll never find that particular treasure again. Then another player can come along and find it.

So yeah, apparently some of them give xp, about double what a quest gives.


All this practice running is getting me thinking differently as I play... I'm using my cooldowns a lot more now than when I started out, and more cavalier about pulling mobs. I can't really AoE on my Shaman, though, which could put me at a disadvantage. Trying to decide what to macro my potions to. I only have about 250.

I've almost died a couple of times - once because a boomkin was mass pulling in the area and I somehow got on the aggro table and had these things I'd not touched all throwing spells at me.


Here's a question somewhere on the pessimistic side: At what point do you give up? If you see someone of your class ding a level ahead of you, is that it? How far ahead is recoverable?
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Fenrìr » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:31 pm

Just because someone lvl's ahead of you, doesn't mean they're going to push through. Anything can happen...they could run into a bad spree of pulling too much, getting off track on their quests or even bad RNG on gathering quests. One of the ones I'm hoping I don't run into is the Baiting the Trap one in Dread Wastes...gods that was painful. So keep pushing until you actually see the server message; don't get caught up always checking to see where other people are cause then you're likely to make a mistake or put unnecessary stress on yourself.



But yea, I know what you mean about the CD usage. I made all these pots and other consumables....need to be using them.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:33 pm

Yeah. I started out using Ghost Wolves when I had a named special mob to kill, or when I'd overpulled. Now I use it when it's off cooldown and I'm on a kill quest. Took me until today to realise I hadn't used Ascendance at all since they fixed the bug where Ghost Wolf triggered it - it made the burlap trail escorts way easier, being able to hit all the ranged Hozen attacking the caravan.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby daishan » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:30 pm

I'm not going for realm first or anything but would like to level quickly, are scenarios worth doing for the XP or gear at later levels?
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby Worldie » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:37 am

Scenarios can only be done at level cap (so no exp) and reward *one* piece of gear.

Not really the best way to farm gear, mostly just a quick way to get VPs.
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Re: Going for Realm Firsts

Postby daishan » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:47 am

Level cap /facepalm I should learn to wake up before posting.
One less thing to think about while zerging to 90 :D
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