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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Skye1013 » Thu May 03, 2012 5:53 pm

The Nook isn't bad either. Be aware, if you shop at Target, the Kindle will soon be leaving their shelves (though the other ereaders will remain.)
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby tinalt » Thu May 03, 2012 5:59 pm

I'd recommend the Nook, I've been getting a ton of use out of mine since I can't really take a book collection with me everywhere.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Brekkie » Thu May 03, 2012 8:08 pm

If you already own an iPad, it works as an e-reader too. Many people don't realize this and feel they have to buy a whole separate device.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Skye1013 » Thu May 03, 2012 8:26 pm

For that matter, a laptop/iPhone can be used as one if you download the app/program (usually free.)
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Klaudandus » Thu May 03, 2012 9:17 pm

Brekkie wrote:If you already own an iPad, it works as an e-reader too. Many people don't realize this and feel they have to buy a whole separate device.


I get more tired reading from the ipad that reading from a kindle or straight from the book though...

But yeah, if you have an e-reader, check out project gutenberg, manybooks.net and other similar sites -- you can find bunch of public domain books there.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Flex » Fri May 04, 2012 1:54 pm

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Brekkie wrote:If you already own an iPad, it works as an e-reader too. Many people don't realize this and feel they have to buy a whole separate device.


I get more tired reading from the ipad that reading from a kindle or straight from the book though...


2 or 3? I find the 3 works pretty darn well for an LCD based eReader, much better than the 2 I used for a while.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Klaudandus » Fri May 04, 2012 3:07 pm

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Brekkie wrote:If you already own an iPad, it works as an e-reader too. Many people don't realize this and feel they have to buy a whole separate device.


I get more tired reading from the ipad that reading from a kindle or straight from the book though...


2 or 3? I find the 3 works pretty darn well for an LCD based eReader, much better than the 2 I used for a while.


I got iPad 2, and no, I aint gonna change it because it was actually issued by our workplace.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Brekkie » Sun May 06, 2012 10:53 pm

I am a backwards cave man and only have an iPad 1. :(

If you get tired reading on the iPad, try turning the brightness way down.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby aureon » Wed May 09, 2012 2:17 pm

Pad reading is "meh" at best, especially in sunlight.
I've got an eBook and won't turn back. Reading on a backlit screen is problematic.

For to-read:
Asimov's Foundation series. (That is, First Foundation, Foundation and Empire, Second foundation) - it is for sci-fi what LotR is for fantasy.
It's an epic tale of hardly before seen proportions, the founding ideal of Star Wars (Coruscant was named Trantor in honor of the book in the first draft)
A chronicle not of man, but of planets, telling how a whole planet, and galaxy, can step up their culture and technology.
It draws heavily from "The fall of the Roman empire", and then goes forward onto estabilishing a new empire.
It created a new pseudoscience, Psychohistory: More than one nobel for economy has declared he has gone into economics for that it was the most similar science to psychohistory.
First foundation clocks at a little more than 200 pages, and more often than not goes in one or two reading chunks.
Atleast for me, being one for technological-advance-based stories, and for historical books, was the read of the lifetime.
Probably, the best i can say about it is that i managed to make my mother read it, who distincly loathes any sci-fi.

For other stuff:
WH40k books are surpringly good, especially if you like the WH40k universe.
LotR is basically a required read nowdays, so i guess (and hope) everyone here had read it ;p
Fountains of Paradise by Clarke is an interesting read for those interested in the midterm future of space tech, explorating the concept and praticability of a Space Elevator.
Terry Brooks fantasy has a killer plot, even though the writing isn't top-notch once anaylzed page-for-page (i partly blame the translation i read on this, though.)
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:14 am

if you have an ebook reader (or ipad) do yourself a favor and visit tuebl.com
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:02 am

I picked the lincoln rhymes series, it is pretty darn good.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Koatanga » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:45 pm

I have the Kindle Fire. I love it. It's smaller than the iPad, so it's easier to have around and to hold while reading. The thing I like about it best is reversing the text - white on black - so I can read it in full dark. If my wife wants to get to bed but I want to read, it's not an issue. In fact, I usually read while I giver her the nightly backrub.

It's also an android device, and while you have to deal with the BS Amazon store, you can also side-load most android apps that you download from your smartphone.

The other annoying thing is DRM. We have 5 e-readers in my family, which includes my Fire and my smartphone - sometimes I like to read while I am out and don't have my kindle with me. DRM makes it a pain to share books, and you can't have the same book on two different devices, so you can't have it on your Kindle and phone at the same time.

I buy music from iTunes because I can do what I want with it. I can have it on my PC and in my car and on my phone all at the same time. Until I can do that with books, I see no reason to support DRM-enabled content. I will continue to buy non-DRM books, such as titles from TOR, but I won't buy DRM. Sucks for the authors, but it's the only way to financially influence the publishers into being less draconian.

Oh, one thing about the Kindle Fire - little of the extra content is available outside the US, and you must have a US credit card on the account to download even free apps off the Amazon store. However, they do not verify the card. I am using a card from when I used to live in the US, that expired in 2006. I just fill in the expiry date using a future date.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Paxen » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:12 am

Kindle vs iPad - it's all about if you want an eink screen or if lcd is good enough for you. A Kindle (not Kindle Fire) is nearly useless for anything but reading, but for me the eink screen is a joy. I spend enough time staring at an lcd screen while playing games or surfing the net, my eyes thank me for not spending even more time staring at a backlit screen. One area where eink is definetly better is if you want to read outside during the day - the screen behaves just like a book so it's perfectly readable outside on sunny days (unlike an LCD screen).

If you like space opera/milSF and other stuff that's more focused on action than on deep thinking, I'd recommend Baen books. http://www.baenebooks.com to buy (all books DRM free for $6, even new releases) and http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com for free, legal downloads of their back catalog. Got authors like Eric Flint (1632), David Weber (Honor Harrington), Lois Bujold (Vorkosigan books) and also quite a few titles from Glen Cook via a partnership with Night Shade books.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby halabar » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:52 am

I love my iPad, but for reading, I prefer paper..
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:40 pm

Wish there was a way to (legally) transfer all of my current paper copies onto my nook without having to repurchase them all. Would allow me to save a TON of shelf space and probably knock out at least 100 lbs of shipping weight...
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Anisovaya » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:14 am

tinalt wrote:I absolutely need to recommend The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson for any high fantasy fans. It's a great read, the biggest problem I have with it is that it's Sandersons entry into long series fantasy, so I'll be forced to deal with waiting for each new book for the next decade or two.



DEFINITELY recommend reading The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson !!!!!! It truly was an excellent read and the way Sanderson develops the characters into individuals that you care about and are intrigued by is what makes the book such a great read. I too was disappointed that it will be a long wait until the second book in this series comes out. Sanderson was the author that was brought in to finish Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time series so that was what got me started on reading The Wheel of Time books. I have to say that while I do find that they initially seemed like a similar version of the characters in the LOTR (can we say bumbling Merry & Pippin who constantly get themselves and everyone else in trouble??!! ugh), I have enjoyed them so far.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Paxen » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:19 am

A note about the Way of Kings: it's very different from other Sanderson fare. Those are mostly pretty short (for fantasy books...) and contain a lot of action and events. The Way of Kings is...slower, in a way. More like the Wheel of Time (but better).
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Ironshield » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:52 am

My wife recently stumbled upon a real gem of a series, and we've both blown through all 6 books and are worried about what we're going to do waiting for any future books.

Temeraire - by Naomi Novik. Basically an alternate history where dragons are just part of the world. Set during the Napoleonic wars. Very well done and thought through.

Don't want to get into the whole competing tech discussion any more than to wholeheartedly endorse my Kindle - LOVE IT, as does the missus, especially as she's currently breast feeding so having a light book with which you can do everything with one hand is a God send.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby benebarba » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:43 am

Ironshield wrote:My wife recently stumbled upon a real gem of a series, and we've both blown through all 6 books and are worried about what we're going to do waiting for any future books.

Temeraire - by Naomi Novik. Basically an alternate history where dragons are just part of the world. Set during the Napoleonic wars. Very well done and thought through.


Yep. A great 'historical fantasy' series.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Koatanga » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:06 pm

Skye1013 wrote:Wish there was a way to (legally) transfer all of my current paper copies onto my nook without having to repurchase them all. Would allow me to save a TON of shelf space and probably knock out at least 100 lbs of shipping weight...

Not sure how the copyright for books works, but if you own a piece of music (CD, record, tape), you can make copies of it for personal use, and even obtain copies of superior quality for personal use.

If books are similar, then if you have the paper, you should legally be allowed to download and enjoy the electronic version and copies thereof for personal use.

At least that's the way I look at it - we have thousands of books around the house - buying electronic copies of all of them would be horrendously expensive. I don't mind downloading books that I already own.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Paxen » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:31 am

Koatanga wrote:then if you have the paper, you should legally be allowed to download and enjoy the electronic version and copies thereof for personal use.

At least that's the way I look at it - we have thousands of books around the house - buying electronic copies of all of them would be horrendously expensive. I don't mind downloading books that I already own.


Two issues with that: Is downloading somebody else's copy legally the same as copying your own?

And if you torrent it, you will share it with somebody else, which is definetly illegal.

Morally however, I see no problems downloading books you already own.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Cogglamp » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:35 am

Due to copious amounts of time sitting in airports, trains, and commuter rails, I was able to get through Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power.

Was a fantastic read. Anyone interested in political science studies would enjoy it.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Koatanga » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:23 pm

Paxen wrote:And if you torrent it, you will share it with somebody else, which is definetly illegal.

If anyone can get the whole thing from me in the time I torrent it, they'd be pretty lucky. I have a data-capped internet plan, so I am an extremely bad torrent sharer. I download, then remove the torrent. I may share 1% of what I downloaded, but that doesn't bother me - they would have got the 1% from the source I was downloading from anyway.

Until they get rid of this DRM garbage, my heart isn't going to bleed for publishers one bit.

I bought a book from Amazon that my wife wanted. She has a Kindle Touch, but has never eneabled the wifi on it because she likes not having the adverts on it. So everything gets downloaded from her PC. Well, it turns out there really isn't a way to get the book on her Touch without hooking her up to the net and putting adverts on her idle screen. So I downloaded a pirated copy of the book and put it on her kindle. Doesn't bother me, because I bought the electronic book. But the whole thing was an exercise in frustration that illustrated quite clearly to me how much DRM sucks.

We're buyers. We like to support people who produce what we like. We buy books, music, and movies. But when it's made too hard for us to go through legal channels, we will go elsewhere.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Skye1013 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:10 pm

Otoh, the whole reason I'd be downloading the books would be to get rid of the hard copy... at that point I'd no longer own the hard copy, putting me into a gray area.
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Re: All About Books/Periodicals

Postby Fridmarr » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:05 pm

Skye1013 wrote:Otoh, the whole reason I'd be downloading the books would be to get rid of the hard copy... at that point I'd no longer own the hard copy, putting me into a gray area.

That's not gray, it's fine. Otherwise the concept of having a backup would be utterly useless.
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