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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:46 am

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:47 am

So, Florida is at it again.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/tech/gami ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:51 am

florida is full of old people anyways.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Teranoid » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:00 am

halabar wrote:So, Florida is at it again.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/tech/gami ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.


Simple solution to Florida:

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:02 am

Klaudandus wrote:florida is full of old people anyways.


That might explain why our MT keeps dying...
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Worldie » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:15 am

Teranoid wrote:
halabar wrote:So, Florida is at it again.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/tech/gami ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.


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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby benebarba » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:18 am

halabar wrote:So, Florida is at it again.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/tech/gami ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.


be interesting to see if it becomes 'OK, well, if you pay <insert value here> in taxes on any earnings gained, you'll be good.' ... which is basically where many states have tried to go with anything computerized that may involve something resembeling a sales transaction.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:23 am

benebarba wrote:
halabar wrote:So, Florida is at it again.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/tech/gami ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.


be interesting to see if it becomes 'OK, well, if you pay <insert value here> in taxes on any earnings gained, you'll be good.' ... which is basically where many states have tried to go with anything computerized that may involve something resembeling a sales transaction.


Gotta remember that Florida is one of those few states that bans most "give away" type contests, like the McDonald's ones, or similar, in an effort to protect their vulnerable citizens that can't cleanly punch a chad.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Nooska » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:48 am

halabar wrote:So, Florida is at it again.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/tech/gami ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that.


No, it really doesn't.

gam·ble (gmbl)
v.gam·bled, gam·bling, gam·bles

v.intr.
1.
a. To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.
b. To play a game of chance for stakes.
2. To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit.
3. To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior: You are gambling with your health by continuing to smoke.

v.tr.
1. To put up as a stake in gambling; wager.
2. To expose to hazard; risk: gambled their lives in a dangerous rescue mission.

n.
1. A bet, wager, or other gambling venture.
2. An act or undertaking of uncertain outcome; a risk: I took a gamble that stock prices would rise


Using a bonus roll is not gambling - there are no stakes, no bet, no risk.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:58 am

Nooska wrote:
halabar wrote:So, Florida is at it again.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/tech/gami ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that.


No, it really doesn't.

gam·ble (gmbl)
v.gam·bled, gam·bling, gam·bles

v.intr.
1.
a. To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.
b. To play a game of chance for stakes.
2. To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit.
3. To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior: You are gambling with your health by continuing to smoke.

v.tr.
1. To put up as a stake in gambling; wager.
2. To expose to hazard; risk: gambled their lives in a dangerous rescue mission.

n.
1. A bet, wager, or other gambling venture.
2. An act or undertaking of uncertain outcome; a risk: I took a gamble that stock prices would rise


Using a bonus roll is not gambling - there are no stakes, no bet, no risk.


In normal states, yes...

However, this is Florida, where the McDonald's Monopoly game can be considered gambling.

From the article...

Florida's new, expanded definition of a slot machine includes "any machine or device or system or network of devices" used to play games of chance or skill, which can be activated by not just inserting money, but an "account number, code, or other object or information."


A bonus roll is a game of chance (using an in-game currency) and your computer is a slot machine since it allows you perform that bonus roll. (Especially since Blizz may start selling lesser charms for real currency).

Heck, the bonus roll even has that dice icon with it. That's all that Florida lawmakers need... :-)

Remember, this law outlawed Internet cafes.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:05 am

Other parts of the article make it clear that a "payout of any value" must be possible for it to count, so I don't think bonus rolls are at risk specifically.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:32 am

KysenMurrin wrote:Other parts of the article make it clear that a "payout of any value" must be possible for it to count, so I don't think bonus rolls are at risk specifically.


Well, your computer is illegal anyway, since it has the potential to be a slot machine, but isn't epic loot a payout? Especially when lesser charms may be bought for real-world currency soon, the Florida law would have to define a payout as a tangible real-world object, currency, or service, which it probably doesn't.

Considering the IRS is also looking at taxing the sale of virtual goods...
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:16 pm

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