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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby bldavis » Tue May 21, 2013 12:04 pm

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Flex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:12 pm

halabar wrote:The problem with 10E is that you still don't have a lot of room for carrying someone.


Did you not raid 10s in WotLK?
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue May 21, 2013 12:15 pm

Flex wrote:
halabar wrote:The problem with 10E is that you still don't have a lot of room for carrying someone.


Did you not raid 10s in WotLK?


Yep, and then I had to pug 25s for the "real" loot... >.>

Even with 10s in WoLTK, in the guilds at the time, there were lots of deadwood that had to be carried.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Flex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:17 pm

halabar wrote:
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halabar wrote:The problem with 10E is that you still don't have a lot of room for carrying someone.


Did you not raid 10s in WotLK?


Yep, and then I had to pug 25s for the "real" loot... >.>

Even with 10s in WoLTK, in the guilds at the time, there were lots of deadwood that had to be carried.


So not a lot of room for players to be carried but you had to carry a lot of players. Got it.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue May 21, 2013 12:28 pm

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Did you not raid 10s in WotLK?


Yep, and then I had to pug 25s for the "real" loot... >.>

Even with 10s in WoLTK, in the guilds at the time, there were lots of deadwood that had to be carried.


So not a lot of room for players to be carried but you had to carry a lot of players. Got it.


And progression suffered as a result. Yep, got it. Can only tell people so many times to get out of the pools, and which slime to target.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Teranoid » Tue May 21, 2013 2:12 pm

LFR group I was just in killed Horridon before he even got the 4th door open and managed to kill Jin right before the third statue toss.

One in a million group.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Flex » Tue May 21, 2013 2:49 pm

halabar wrote:And progression suffered as a result. Yep, got it. Can only tell people so many times to get out of the pools, and which slime to target.


Social raiding has never really been about progression...
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue May 21, 2013 2:56 pm

All raiding is about progression, except for the very top end of heroic raiding where progression is pretty much guaranteed and it's about the race.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Worldie » Tue May 21, 2013 5:15 pm

Flex wrote:
halabar wrote:And progression suffered as a result. Yep, got it. Can only tell people so many times to get out of the pools, and which slime to target.


Social raiding has never really been about progression...

If social raiding is not about progression why so many people QQ as soon as a boss can't be facerolled by social guilds?
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Nikachelle » Tue May 21, 2013 5:17 pm

Is this the part where we start arguing what "social" raiding is versus "casual" raiding versus "real" raiding?
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Worldie » Tue May 21, 2013 5:33 pm

I believe Blizzard defines "social" and "casual" raiding as the same, even though we know it aint. Though, the big majority of the so called "social guild to raid with friends" goes emo when they can't faceroll a boss within the first week of the launch and blames Blizzard for having made them too hard and not cather casuals enough.

From my understanding from blizzard anyone who isn't in a progress raiding guild is "casual". Doesn't matter if he good or bad, raids with friends or just LFR.

Hell they are convinced LFR is a social tool even though I've never seen something less social than that in WoW.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Amirya » Tue May 21, 2013 5:44 pm

Worldie wrote:Hell they are convinced LFR is a social tool even though I've never seen something less social than that in WoW.


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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Koatanga » Tue May 21, 2013 9:18 pm

Amirya wrote:
Worldie wrote:Hell they are convinced LFR is a social tool even though I've never seen something less social than that in WoW.


QFT

Well, in LFR people bitch at one another, whereas in LFG not a single word is said the entire time.

So LFR is actually more social.

Demented and sad, but social.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Amirya » Tue May 21, 2013 11:24 pm

Actually, I tend to have more interaction in LFG.

Or maybe I just ignore LFR bitching...

Hmmm...

(I also cannot argue with that logic.)
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue May 21, 2013 11:38 pm

The loot gods, they are a tease...

So, AFTER I upgrade my 502 Voice of the Quillen, the 502 Drumu xbow drops, which would help, since I'm way over on hit, and can't get rid of it all.

THEN, I do the heroic scenario, and I get the 516 Panderan Xbow of the Stormblast (hit/crit), which at that point, I say screw it and update that xbow. So 1000 total valor blown, but a weapon upgrade. It's not ideal as in it's upgrade form it provides ~710 weapon dps over the upgraded Voice, but is ~26 Agi less (and ~100 more crit). I think that's still an upgrade, even for BM. (I can't check MrRobot or FemaleDwarf yet, as they don't have those weapons listed yet). With either weapon I'm way over the hitcap and can't do a thing about it. I could upgrade the Drumu bow which has no hit, but that would be yet another 500 valor, and that could be better spend on another upgrade.

Now I'm wait for ToT tomorrow night to see if the 522/528 shared boss loot bow drops... :lol:
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Jabari » Wed May 22, 2013 1:03 am

Hey Halabar - you tried AoE-ing anything yet? *laugh*

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby benebarba » Wed May 22, 2013 3:38 am

Koatanga wrote:Demented and sad, but social.


Well played ;)
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby benebarba » Wed May 22, 2013 3:39 am

I seriously spent like 5 minutes at a target dummy after having my rotation feel super slow when I logged in after the patch. I swear I'd just played my pally too and things felt fine.

I blame my monk :P
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby benebarba » Wed May 22, 2013 3:56 am

Worldie wrote:
Flex wrote:
halabar wrote:And progression suffered as a result. Yep, got it. Can only tell people so many times to get out of the pools, and which slime to target.


Social raiding has never really been about progression...

If social raiding is not about progression why so many people QQ as soon as a boss can't be facerolled by social guilds?


KysenMurrin wrote:All raiding is about progression, except for the very top end of heroic raiding where progression is pretty much guaranteed and it's about the race.


not to dwell on it - but the first thing (the QQ) is unavoidable now. That said, I'm pretty sure blizzard doesn't mind a few tears until they have actual data of unintended roadblocks, or simply decide it's time to remove them (Elegon, Garalon). For the second: I think the emphasis on rate of progression is what differentiates groups. If you have a lot of people who'll bail and go to a faster guild because your social guild isn't progressing fast enough for their tastes, I wouldn't call them social raiders.

That said, I think at some point you can only tune content so much. If a very large percentage of your group can't grasp the fundamental mechanics of a fight even with a few weeks (and presumably a number of attempts each night) of trying, I'd argue that is a strong indicator that your group isn't ready to raid at that level, and if that level is the lowest, then they aren't ready to raid. And frankly, that's gotta happen at some point... there's just too many people in this game for everything to be for everybody.

The idea of having a lower tuned 10 man, but allowing up to 15 people could be a possible solution (should still drop the same amount of loot as a 10 man though, IMO), but I feel like if you do it with 10+ in your group, you should get LFR-level drops (or maybe 1/4 upgraded LFR), while if you do it with 10 or less you should get 2/4 upgraded LFR, just so this doesn't become more widely used as a 'AFK for upgrades' method.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Worldie » Wed May 22, 2013 4:42 am

Speaking about amusements:

Tonight I had a dream, where I was in a soccer field, then I clicked a corner flag, and I learned triple specialization.


When I woke up I was like "dafuq did I just dream?"
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Zalaria » Wed May 22, 2013 5:26 am

Worldie wrote:Speaking about amusements:

Tonight I had a dream, where I was in a soccer field, then I clicked a corner flag, and I learned triple specialization.


When I woke up I was like "dafuq did I just dream?"


Wasn't there a datamined triple spec on the 5.3 ptr at some point? Maybe it made it in, and the only way to get it is to click a flag on that game field in the Goblin starting area. And you must have dual spec already.

Yes, I know it's impossible. That's the point.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Era » Wed May 22, 2013 6:06 am

Worldie wrote:Speaking about amusements:

Tonight I had a dream, where I was in a soccer field, then I clicked a corner flag, and I learned triple specialization.


When I woke up I was like "dafuq did I just dream?"


So you dreamt you could play both offence, defence and keeper? :wink:
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Nikachelle » Wed May 22, 2013 6:34 am

Koatanga wrote:
Amirya wrote:
Worldie wrote:Hell they are convinced LFR is a social tool even though I've never seen something less social than that in WoW.


QFT

Well, in LFR people bitch at one another, whereas in LFG not a single word is said the entire time.

I'm one of those weirdos that at least makes a point to say hi when I start a dungeon.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed May 22, 2013 6:38 am

That's the social side of LFG: "Hi" at the start, "thanks" at the end. ;)
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Worldie » Wed May 22, 2013 6:46 am

I occasionally compliment with people if their performance is particularly good or if their transmog is interesting!

Era wrote:
Worldie wrote:Speaking about amusements:

Tonight I had a dream, where I was in a soccer field, then I clicked a corner flag, and I learned triple specialization.


When I woke up I was like "dafuq did I just dream?"


So you dreamt you could play both offence, defence and keeper? :wink:

No, in the dream I was clearly my gnome priest and specced my third spec Holy after this.

No clue wtf my gnome was doing in a soccer field with real people.
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