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Re: Post Your Amusements!

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Amirya » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:40 pm

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:56 pm



Gonna have to call you on that one. Yoga is certainly based on eastern religions.

Yoga (Sanskrit, Pāli: योग, /ˈjəʊɡə/, yoga) is a commonly known generic term for physical, mental, and spiritual disciplines which originated in ancient India.[1][2] Specifically, yoga is one of the six āstika ("orthodox") schools of Hindu philosophy. It is based on the Yoga Sūtras of Patañjali. Various traditions of yoga are found in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism.[3][4][5]


While there is certainly a "westernized" form of Yoga, much of the way it is taught still has it's roots in eastern religion basics.

When it was mandated that as part of college class, I observed, rather than participated, in the mandatory class, and sure enough, much of the discussion and practice was all around "centers of energy, chi, etc".

I also don't think it's possible to totally remove the eastern influences from it, without replacing it with something else. There are "christian" versions of yoga, and even mystic jewish versions, but when you are told to meditate, you usually have some framework to that.

So the parents should at least have the option to opt their kids out of it, and if enough of the parents feel that way, the school should find another option. The fact that the effort is funded by a yoga 'school' that's making waves in that community also gives pause.

So yeah, this doesn't fall into the normal insanity. The parents have a right to object.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:11 pm

Not sure this really qualifies as an amusement so much as a "dafuq?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/2 ... 02848.html

Edit: Sorry, apparently this is already being discussed in frustrations... /shrug
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Amirya » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:12 pm

I didn't say based, though, I said teaches.

Also, if the parents are objecting, then why don't they just pull the kids out instead suing over an extracurricular activity?

This is, to me, as dumb as if I decided to sue my high school over football encouraging head injuries.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:18 pm

halabar wrote:So the parents should at least have the option to opt their kids out of it, and if enough of the parents feel that way, the school should find another option. The fact that the effort is funded by a yoga 'school' that's making waves in that community also gives pause.

Judging by the fact the article states that some parents have pulled their kids out of the class because they object... it's obviously an option, so the lawsuit threat is a tad overkill. It's not like the school is forcing every kid to attend these classes, is it?
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Shoju » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:23 am

I heard someone refer to marxism as a "science and mode of analysis".

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:02 am

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halabar wrote:So the parents should at least have the option to opt their kids out of it, and if enough of the parents feel that way, the school should find another option. The fact that the effort is funded by a yoga 'school' that's making waves in that community also gives pause.

Judging by the fact the article states that some parents have pulled their kids out of the class because they object... it's obviously an option, so the lawsuit threat is a tad overkill. It's not like the school is forcing every kid to attend these classes, is it?


Depends. The article wasn't clear enough on that. Doesn't say if the district is providing an alternate class for these kids.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:07 am

Amirya wrote:I didn't say based, though, I said teaches.


But it does teach the fundamentals, which are really key to Hindu "theology" for lack of a better word.

Again, consider this is being funded by an outside group that certainly has an agenda to promote their belief system. (I'm also suprised the Mormon church in the area hasn't stepped into the fray on this, they are big down there).
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Shoju » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:13 am

All I'm hearing is

ZOMG MY KIDS MIGHT LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN MY INCREDIBLY NARROW PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THINGS OMG WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? WHY CAN'T MY KIDS JUST BE FORCE FED WHAT I WANT THEM TO KNOW!?

Sorry, I don't see what the big deal is. The article states that they have taken as much of the religion out of it as possible, and it's being used as a form of being active.

I'd be more worried about what little johnny and jenny are learning on the playground from their school friends than in a class about yoga.

But then, I'm the type of person who wants my kids to learn about all types of things, and then make up their own mind on what they believe.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Amirya » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:54 am

halabar wrote:Again, consider this is being funded by an outside group that certainly has an agenda to promote their belief system. (I'm also suprised the Mormon church in the area hasn't stepped into the fray on this, they are big down there).

I can't buy that at all.

Granted, it's been well over a decade, but when I was attending high school, the Mormon church had an arrangement with my (and presumably other public) high school, in which the "pre-first class" hour was seminary, and all the good Mormons went there to study.

I'm not Mormon, so I didn't attend. But by that logic, shouldn't my mother have been eligible to sue the public school system for "having an agenda to promote their belief system"?

Also, what's the difference between meditation and prayer? It's all about having a personal moment or few to connect with <whatever>, in the end.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:06 pm

Shoju wrote:All I'm hearing is

ZOMG MY KIDS MIGHT LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN MY INCREDIBLY NARROW PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THINGS OMG WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? WHY CAN'T MY KIDS JUST BE FORCE FED WHAT I WANT THEM TO KNOW!?

Sorry, I don't see what the big deal is. The article states that they have taken as much of the religion out of it as possible, and it's being used as a form of being active.


WTF?

So, if I have children, you as a school adminstrator can decide that I'm being narrow-minded and teach my kids what you feel is appropriate, including religions other than my own? FU

So it's OK for an atheist to sue about the pledge and "In God we Trust", but it's not ok for someone to be against a exercise system that a core part of Hindu meditation?
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:37 pm

Amirya wrote:Also, what's the difference between meditation and prayer? It's all about having a personal moment or few to connect with <whatever>, in the end.


The difference is what you are focusing on. A higher power, your inner space, your energy center, what you just had for lunch.

Like I said, having gone through this in my college course, it was clear that while it was supposed to be religious-neutral, the instructor still has to give instructions on what to focus on. For yoga, it's inner-energy-chi-etc.

The core problem is that a 10 or 12 year old kid may not realize what the difference is from what he's taught at home.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Shoju » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:43 pm

halabar wrote:
Shoju wrote:All I'm hearing is

ZOMG MY KIDS MIGHT LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN MY INCREDIBLY NARROW PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THINGS OMG WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? WHY CAN'T MY KIDS JUST BE FORCE FED WHAT I WANT THEM TO KNOW!?

Sorry, I don't see what the big deal is. The article states that they have taken as much of the religion out of it as possible, and it's being used as a form of being active.


WTF?

So, if I have children, you as a school adminstrator can decide that I'm being narrow-minded and teach my kids what you feel is appropriate, including religions other than my own? FU

So it's OK for an atheist to sue about the pledge and "In God we Trust", but it's not ok for someone to be against a exercise system that a core part of Hindu meditation?


I guess you didn't read, or are holding on to something where you don't believe, that they removed most of the religious parts from the class. Are you going to hold them out of history classes too? Because those teach your children about other religions too.

I'm definitely not going to jump to conclusions and say "Well, I know that they said that they removed the religious aspects of it and are using it purely as a form of exercise, but I know that they are teaching my children to be secret HINDU AGENTS IN MY HOME."

There are alternatives to you sending your kids to a school where they might possibly learn something other than your own religious beliefs. You could always home school them, or send them to a Private Religiously affiliated school. Then, you can ensure that they don't learn about anything other than what you want, they don't have to be taught evolution, and you can have more control over how their thoughts and ideas are shaped.

I just don't get why in the world people would be bothered by a Yoga class. The parents are legally allowed to observe the class. They can't tell you "no". The parents could see if they are really being brainwashed into "Secret Hindus" before being unhappy because OMG teh skool wantz dem to be moor activ, bcuz obeesutee is killun da kideez

I would be excited if they brought a yoga class to my kids school. It would give them something interesting to learn about, and from the sounds of this class it isn't mandatory. That's great. Kids should be given every chance to learn about the world, and the people, and the cultures that are a part of it.

halabar wrote:The difference is what you are focusing on. A higher power, your inner space, your energy center, what you just had for lunch.

Like I said, having gone through this in my college course, it was clear that while it was supposed to be religious-neutral, the instructor still has to give instructions on what to focus on. For yoga, it's inner-energy-chi-etc.

The core problem is that a 10 or 12 year old kid may not realize what the difference is from what he's taught at home.


Yes. Yoga is very inner focused. It is about unlocking "something" inside yourself.

If you don't want your kids to learn about something that is different than what they are being taught at home, I reiterate my point. Home School them, or send them to a private school. Otherwise? They should learn everything that there is to know out there.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:50 pm

Shoju wrote:I guess you didn't read, or are holding on to something where you don't believe, that they removed most of the religious parts from the class. Are you going to hold them out of history classes too? Because those teach your children about other religions too.

If you don't want your kids to learn about something that is different than what they are being taught at home, I reiterate my point. Home School them, or send them to a private school. Otherwise? They should learn everything that there is to know out there.


And I guess you didn't read the part about what the core of yoga is. You can't really remove the religion without replacing it with something else. Most of the yoga moves don't make sense without the meditation part. If all they are doing are teaching the stretching moves, then it's just low-impact pilaties (sp?) and it's not an issue, but since it's funded by an outside group, I doubt that.

Also, there's a difference between learning ABOUT another religion, and PARTICIPATING in some of it's principles. Yoga is not the same as history class.

So what you are really saying is that after yoga, we should send all those kids to catechism? and then for some LDS teaching, since that's big in San Diego as well?

Actually, the best equivalent would be to teach the kids to use rosary beads as a meditation technique.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby bldavis » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:58 pm

so when i had a class on tai-chi i was being brainwashed into eastern beliefs? :roll:

i agree with the history class comment
they teach you about other religions as well, maybe we should ban them too!

just for clarification, seminary for lds kids (mormons) is like a bible study group basically
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Shoju » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:23 pm

halabar wrote:And I guess you didn't read the part about what the core of yoga is. You can't really remove the religion without replacing it with something else. Most of the yoga moves don't make sense without the meditation part. If all they are doing are teaching the stretching moves, then it's just low-impact pilaties (sp?) and it's not an issue, but since it's funded by an outside group, I doubt that.

Also, there's a difference between learning ABOUT another religion, and PARTICIPATING in some of it's principles. Yoga is not the same as history class.

So what you are really saying is that after yoga, we should send all those kids to catechism? and then for some LDS teaching, since that's big in San Diego as well?

Actually, the best equivalent would be to teach the kids to use rosary beads as a meditation technique.


I'm pretty familiar with Yoga, thanks, I understand it, and I'm pretty sure that If you've only "observed it in college", I'm probably a little more versed than you about it.

Yes. Doubt it. Please. Because it's all some giant conspiracy aimed at removing the Christian "God" from life, and trampling all over your life, while forcing your children to become a part of some other religion. :o


Participating in some of it's principles? That's your fear?! Well then, tell me Mr. Halabar, do you let your kids go Trick or Treating? Do you let them celebrate a "traiditional" Christmas, with a Christmas Tree, and Santa Claus? Because really, if you are going to start playing the "Participating Card", your life better be devoid of costumes, and Halloween, and Christmas Trees, and Santa Claus, and I could go on and on, but I think that those examples are enough.

Seriously. singling out a Yoga Class that was designed to remove the religious element, and geared for kids because you are afraid that it is going to teach them something bad, is the same type of bullshit rhetoric I heard as a kid.

"Playing Dungeons and Dragons is going to make you a Devil Worshiper! And Send you to HELL! And the DEVIL is going to EAT YOUR SOUL!"
"Listening to Rock and Roll means that you are a Devil Worshiper!"
"Participating in Yoga will make you a Hindu!"
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby bldavis » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:35 pm

i love seeing ppl claim christmas (in the middle of winter for the northern hemisphere) is celebrating the birth of jesus, even though in the bible it is stated he was born when the shepards are dealing with lambs...and lambs are born in april/may >.>

if you truly want to not have your kids exposed to any other religion well lets see
no halloween (based mostly on wiccan beliefs as well as old druidic traditions of Samhain), and no christmas (feast/festival of saturn)
at least halloween has a christian component with all hallows day
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby halabar » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:38 pm

Yes, yes, I'm the crazy paranoid one.. I should be open to everything... whatever.
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby bldavis » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:08 pm

halabar wrote:Yes, yes, I'm the crazy paranoid one.. I should be open to everything... whatever.

maybe not everything....but freaking out cause your kids might learn a little bit about another culture is a bit much
(and no that wasnt at you hal, just a statement)
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Re: Post Your Amusements!

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Re: Post Your Amusements!

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:38 pm

Would it be the same if it was Tai-chi? Although they would prolly claim they're trying to indoctrinate their kids in communist ideals
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