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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Fetzie » Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:59 pm

Nikachelle wrote:The Talbuk was one single repeatable quest and you had to kill orcs. Hundreds and thousands of orcs.


Horde got the better deal with the Talbuks, we got to kill Draenei :)
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby bldavis » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:50 pm

so space goats with cbh vs filthy orcs....
nah i still think alliance got the better end on that one! :twisted:
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby halabar » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:51 pm

Nikachelle wrote:The Talbuk was one single repeatable quest and you had to kill orcs. Hundreds and thousands of orcs.


err... ogres... but that was profitable, and good for leveling! :wink:
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Sagara » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:53 am

I also think the point is that we shouldn't be all arush to grab whatever reward we want. Unlike most new grinds, this one isn't about grabbing super-duper stuff that will be obsolete in 2 months (HELLOOOOOOOOO Molten Front!)

It's there for a long time, to help new toons upping their craft, to help wind down between instances, raids, PvP, whatever, and grab some cute things in the process.

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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:47 am

Only thing I don't have credit for is the arch quest (1/75 arch, I should probably work on that at some point >.>)

I found it a blast, and as Nika said, there is a ton of room for expansion (not to mention the pavilions that are "Under Construction.")

@econ21: He was saying the OLD quests were a boring grind, not the new stuff.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Winkle » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:50 am

It takes all of 5 mintues to do the dailies, seems fair enough that it takes more than 1 DMF to get a mount.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:48 am

Only one I even had any sort of "difficulty" with was the cannon, and once you figure out the right timing, it's pretty easy.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby degre » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:53 am

halabar wrote:
Nikachelle wrote:The Talbuk was one single repeatable quest and you had to kill orcs. Hundreds and thousands of orcs.


err... ogres... but that was profitable, and good for leveling! :wink:

Orc and ogre, believe it or not, are two different words, and being that the race in WoW is defined as orc, the plural is NOT ogres ;)
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:56 am

What orcs? Were there orcs in Nagrand?

Most people did their grinding on the Ogres in the Northwind/Southwind clefts, I thought.

Edit: wait, are you referring to battle tokens from killing players? That was the easy part.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:05 am

Ogres were what was killed for the quest though, not orcs. And actually, I believe the technical name (since they're two-headed ogres) is Ettins.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby degre » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:16 am

Oh, I see what you mean, I thought was the PvP one while is instead the reputation mount and they were indeed ogres.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Awyndel » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:52 am

Wasn't it changed to 5 tickets per quest?

Either way this is 7x5=35 tickets per fair, plus the 90+ from the artifacts wich you can turn in once per fair. So thats at least 1 pet, or half a mount every fair, if not more.

I admit that's some of the most grindy stuff yet, but that's only condidering the low uptime of the fair, that's the real problem imo.

If you compare it to argent dailies, the grind isn't so bad, except that you can do those whenever u want.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Nikachelle » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:26 am

Bah, I meant ogres.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Astronomic » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:27 am

Nikachelle wrote:I enjoyed the fair. It's well thought out, pretty and unique. It's what the Faire should've been all along.

^

Though I do feel sorry for those that turned in a bajillion decks for their "insane in the membrane" acheivement
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Barathorn » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:19 am

Nikachelle wrote:Bah, I meant ogres.


So you say.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby econ21 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:26 am

Awyndel wrote:Wasn't it changed to 5 tickets per quest?


No, for the 5 daily game quests, I understand it was changed from 5 tickets on the PTR to the present 1 ticket.

I guess part of my problem is that I don't find the games fun or well executed (e.g. shooting the target is irritating in a crowded booth).I actually liked the Argent Tournament and the Molten Front dailies, as at least for those, I was playing WoW rather than a mini-game. And the rewards were a lot more attractive for me as they were not purely cosmetic. (Even then, Tier 1 transmog gear is meh. Tier 2 for us would have got me interested.)
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:41 am

They do need to fix a couple of things, for example there's still some text (like on the mouseover for the tickets) that suggests you can earn tickets by "winning" games (ie, getting the counter on the game UI to the required level), but in reality you get nothing for winning.

There could be some incentive to playing beyond the daily quest, but there isn't right now.


It's too difficult to "win" the shooting gallery at the moment, as it takes multiple Quick Shots to get 25 in the time limit and the Quick Shot time window is pretty small. In the ring toss game I can't tell whether my throws are landing or not.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby halabar » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:06 am

The games are a joke, the rate of earning tickets is a joke, and the rewards are meh. It's a great idea poorly executed.

Assuming the profession quests are once-per-fair, I'll simply come one time each fair, get my tickets, and eventually get a pet or two. No way am I going back to do those games every day for one ticket per game. Not that fun, and it is too grindy.

And a petting zoo?.. err.. why? I smell a new Orphan week quest.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:24 am

halabar wrote:And a petting zoo?.. err.. why?


Why not?

The best things in the game are things that have no reason for being there other than someone wanted them there. I am always surprised when there is an on-level mob in a zone I don't have to kill or rescue or interact with for a quest.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Sabindeus » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:50 am

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halabar wrote:And a petting zoo?.. err.. why?


Why not?

The best things in the game are things that have no reason for being there other than someone wanted them there. I am always surprised when there is an on-level mob in a zone I don't have to kill or rescue or interact with for a quest.


Agreed. I got a kick out of the petting zoo and the pony rides.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:57 am

One of my favorite Cataclysm additions was the huge number of critters in every zone, it made the world feel more alive like when you're in Uldum and see spiders, scorpions and lizards scurrying across the sand.
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby djlar » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:59 am

The items that drop on the dungeons and BG's are extremely rare, the 250 trophies specially, in a dungeon you get 20% chance or less to drop, about 10-15 per dungeon (of the new 3), best case scenario is 17 dungeon runs...

What I did is go to icecrown zone, aoe tons of normal 80 mobs, got a trophy from each one, rinse and repeat.

The artifacts, I got very lucky and got one in a dungeon with an alt (nexus lvl 70).. I rolled need, no one else rolled (apparently you need the journal to even see it).

Went and sold it for 3500 gold on trade...
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby halabar » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:08 am

djlar wrote:The items that drop on the dungeons and BG's are extremely rare, the 250 trophies specially, in a dungeon you get 20% chance or less to drop, about 10-15 per dungeon (of the new 3), best case scenario is 17 dungeon runs...

What I did is go to icecrown zone, aoe tons of normal 80 mobs, got a trophy from each one, rinse and repeat.

The artifacts, I got very lucky and got one in a dungeon with an alt (nexus lvl 70).. I rolled need, no one else rolled (apparently you need the journal to even see it).

Went and sold it for 3500 gold on trade...


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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Astronomic » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:30 am

I accepted that quest but didn't see the item in my inventory, is it sold seperately?
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Re: darkmoon faire is a joke

Postby Tev » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:38 am

I think this is just the begining, they have a lot of potential with that island. 3 Large tents that are barricaded off, lots of unoccupied area around the faire, I imagine they will expand on it, but right now they had their plate full with releasing 4.3. I would love to see them throw in instanced areas, that are less hack and slash, and more interaction and survival oriented. "House of Mirrors", "Tent of Horrors", etc. They could go Vincent Price meets Alfred Hitchcock with horror survival.

Will be interesting to see if they do expand on it, or if this is it, and they don't want to invest any more into it.
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