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Farewell, Flash

Postby Invisusira » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:56 am

Just over a year and a half after Jobs' thoughts on Flash letter, Adobe has announced that it will no longer be updating Flash for mobile devices and will instead work on contributing more towards HTML5.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exclus ... ated/19226

Thoughts? Predictions? Is Flash going away for good?
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:00 am

I fucking hope so

edit: Ok that was harsh. Flash has provided an easy studio for people without a lot of engineering background to create lots of great stuff. What we need is an Adobe app that provides that same framework but outputs HTML5 code.
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Flex » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:04 am

I do enjoy that RIM announced that they have licensed the Flash source code and will continue developing it for their QNX/BBX platforms.

I say within 2 years Adobe will complete the HTML5 tools for their suite and will announce the end of Flash on the desktop.
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby halabar » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:15 am

Flex wrote:I do enjoy that RIM announced that they have licensed the Flash source code and will continue developing it for their QNX/BBX platforms.

I say within 2 years Adobe will complete the HTML5 tools for their suite and will announce the end of Flash on the desktop.


RIM really is that stupid, isn't it?...

Yep, Flash will be dead on the web in 2 years. Flash just got sent to hospice care.

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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Malthrax » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:26 am

Sabindeus wrote:edit: Ok that was harsh. Flash has provided an easy studio for people without a lot of engineering background to create lots of great stuff. What we need is an Adobe app that provides that same framework but without all the gaping security holes.

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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:46 am

Malthrax wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:edit: Ok that was harsh. Flash has provided an easy studio for people without a lot of engineering background to create lots of great stuff. What we need is an Adobe app that provides that same framework but outputs HTML5 code which shouldn't have all the gaping security holes that Flash did.

fix't

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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Flex » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:53 am

JIT compilers and WebGL are so open for exploits...
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Jeremoot » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:55 am

Sabindeus wrote:
Malthrax wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:edit: Ok that was harsh. Flash has provided an easy studio for people without a lot of engineering background to create lots of great stuff. What we need is an Adobe app that provides that same framework but outputs HTML5 code which shouldn't have all the gaping security holes that Flash did.

fix't

re-fix't


I approve of this.

Unfortunately, Internet Explorer won't (at least not for 3 years when they finally support it).
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby halabar » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:00 am

Sabindeus wrote:
Malthrax wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:edit: Ok that was harsh. Flash has provided an easy studio for people without a lot of engineering background to create lots of great stuff. What we are open-source tools and independent ones that output HTML5 code which shouldn't have all the gaping security holes that Flash did, with browsers that actually provide accurate HTML5 support.

fix't

re-fix't


re-refix't

I want Adobe to make Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign. I want Adobe to polish publishing to the iPad format from InDesign. I don't need a HTML5 version of Dreamweaver. Much of my web development is done in Wordpress and custom PHP, I don't want Dreamweaver going there. It will end badly.
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Invisusira » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:00 am

Jeremoot wrote:Internet Explorer

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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:05 am

halabar wrote:I want Adobe to make Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign. I want Adobe to polish publishing to the iPad format from InDesign. I don't need a HTML5 version of Dreamweaver. Much of my web development is done in Wordpress and custom PHP, I don't want Dreamweaver going there. It will end badly.


Not what I'm suggesting. I'm saying that we need an app that lets you make animations in html5, with some limited scriptability.
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby bldavis » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:29 am

Invisusira wrote:
Jeremoot wrote:Internet Explorer

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do you use firefox or chrome?
or another one?
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Flex » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:53 am

bldavis wrote:
Invisusira wrote:
Jeremoot wrote:Internet Explorer


do you use firefox or chrome?
or another one?


Chrome at work on my XP machine.
Safari on the home Mac and home Windows 7 VM.
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby Jeremoot » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:55 am

I use Chrome out of preference, and the Developer Tools come in handy.

Invisusira wrote:
Jeremoot wrote:Internet Explorer

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I wish it were that simple. 10% of web development is coding, the other 90% is attempting to add IE support.
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Re: Farewell, Flash

Postby halabar » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:58 am

Sabindeus wrote:Not what I'm suggesting. I'm saying that we need an app that lets you make animations in html5, with some limited scriptability.


Ah.. yes. But Dreamweaver needs to die.
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