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Re: All about sports

Postby Fetzie » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:55 pm

Klaudandus wrote:I'm really liking janowicz' style -- he seems to approach the net more than other players. Still not pure Serve and Volley, but I'll take it.

Seeing him Ace murray is just icing on top.


Murray has over twice as many aces though. Heck, the last 4 games he hardly dropped any points at all.

edit: I told you he'd win
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:15 pm

Apparently, Dwight Howard has picked Houston to be the next city where he will be unhappy.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Fetzie » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:22 am

An epic match happening on Centre Court right now, the first set alone took an hour, with the average game being 5 minutes long.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:33 am

I can't believe Murray is winning 2 sets to zero.

More amazing, he has broken Djokovic 5 times.

Wonder if Djokovic is just too exhausted from the Del Potro match. I mean, Djokovic with 4 double faults, and going out constantly.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Fetzie » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:54 am

Klaudandus wrote:I can't believe Murray is winning 2 sets to zero.

More amazing, he has broken Djokovic 5 times.

Wonder if Djokovic is just too exhausted from the Del Potro match. I mean, Djokovic with 4 double faults, and going out constantly.

Well, Murray won it in straight sets (on the 4th deuce after 3 championship points).
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:16 am

for a moment, I thought djokovic was gonna win the 3rd set, after being 4-2
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Re: All about sports

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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:25 am

Fenrìr wrote:Holy balls...soccer is cray cray...


http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/07/world ... ?hpt=hp_t3


Yeah well... if someone stabs and kills a loved one in front of me, I think its gonna be very hard to stop me from beating the living shit, and possibly kill, of the attacker.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Teranoid » Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:31 pm

BUT SOCCER IS SUCH A SOPHISTICATED SPORT US PLEB AMERICANS CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLE NUANCES OF THE FOOTBALL!
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:51 pm

I find soccer to be the equivalent of 22 headless chickens running around in a yard.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Teranoid » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:59 pm

I said on Twitter that "The world may mock american football but at least we have the decency to stab someone AFTER the game not during"
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:24 pm

Teranoid wrote:I said on Twitter that "The world may mock american football but at least we have the decency to stab someone AFTER the game not during"

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Re: All about sports

Postby Fetzie » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:50 pm

Teranoid wrote:BUT SOCCER IS SUCH A SOPHISTICATED SPORT US PLEB AMERICANS CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLE NUANCES OF THE FOOTBALL!


Yeah, and football in the back streets of one of the poorest and most violent areas of Brazil is exactly the same as in a 30k-100k seater stadium in a major European city...
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Re: All about sports

Postby Paxen » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:52 pm

Soccer fans are violent. Amateur soccer players are just soccer fans who happen to be on the pitch.

Dismemberment is taking it to a new level though. But at that point it had gone beyond the game.

Even though football (soccer) is not a matter of life or death, but something far more important. Sigh.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Fridmarr » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:56 pm

Yeah, you can't really blame this on the sport. I remember reading this yesterday thinking that there had to be more to the story (USA Today only had a pretty short blurb about it), but even if there isn't, it's not really the fault of the sport.

Why the heck would a referee have a knife on him during the game?
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:00 pm

Fetzie wrote:
Teranoid wrote:BUT SOCCER IS SUCH A SOPHISTICATED SPORT US PLEB AMERICANS CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLE NUANCES OF THE FOOTBALL!


Yeah, and football in the back streets of one of the poorest and most violent areas of Brazil is exactly the same as in a 30k-100k seater stadium in a major European city...


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... ltras.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012 ... ssociation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6189888.stm
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Re: All about sports

Postby Fetzie » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:29 pm

Klaudandus wrote:
Fetzie wrote:
Teranoid wrote:BUT SOCCER IS SUCH A SOPHISTICATED SPORT US PLEB AMERICANS CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLE NUANCES OF THE FOOTBALL!


Yeah, and football in the back streets of one of the poorest and most violent areas of Brazil is exactly the same as in a 30k-100k seater stadium in a major European city...


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... ltras.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012 ... ssociation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6189888.stm

The Italians are scary, I'll give you that. You couldn't pay me enough money to go watch a football match in Italy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20025830 the guy got 16 weeks in jail, a 6 year ban from any FA football matches and a life-time ban from Leeds football ground.
The thing in France was in 1996, the entire country was awash with anti-everything-not-french sentiment.

Hooliganism was quite bad in England in the 80s and 90s, but it has been reined in quite a bit thanks to draconian punishments and travel bans for known hooligans. If you are a convicted hooligan part of the punishment is you can have to give up your passport before a major international game in a different country, just to make sure you don't go making any trouble.

I tried watching the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, but I just got really frustrated by the way the game seemed to stop every 10-20 seconds, and every ~2 minutes there was an advertisement break. They managed to string out a ~80 minute game to over 3 hours, and the half-time show was 30 minutes. There seemed to be more filler than there was game. Are the normal games any different?
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Re: All about sports

Postby theckhd » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:39 pm

Fetzie wrote:Are the normal games any different?

The commercials aren't as good?

And a shorter halftime, generally - no show, just talking heads.

My fiancee doesn't understand why I like watching soccer either. *shrug*
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Re: All about sports

Postby Koatanga » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:05 pm

I sort of "get" soccer, but the downside is that it so often ends in a draw. The superfun trivia question is "which team in the last World Cup didn't lose any matches?", the answer being "New Zealand". We drew all our games, which was somehow very very exciting down here.

It's not as bad as Cricket, however. To play for 5 days and end up in a draw... Come on, if you can't figure out who won after 5 days, something's seriously wrong. If it was the most epic pairing of equal sides ever, then I could understand, but it happens all the time. When New Zealand plays India, we have no hope of a win; we just play to draw.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Fridmarr » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:11 pm

I enjoy just about any sport, and I like and played soccer as youth. I love american football though. The set play system is somewhat unique, and to me that adds more than enough excitement to offset the start/stop nature of it.

It's odd to me that the two sports are compared so often and seem to be polarizing among fans. Soccer is much closer to basketball and hockey than to american football.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:15 pm

I dont mind watching Soccer during the world cup, in which case I'll go with Die Mannschaft... oh yeah, and England whenever they play Argentina.

I agree with Fridmarr's analogy of soccer being closer to basketball/hockey than it is to football.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Flex » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:55 am

Fetzie wrote:I tried watching the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, but I just got really frustrated by the way the game seemed to stop every 10-20 seconds, and every ~2 minutes there was an advertisement break. They managed to string out a ~80 minute game to over 3 hours, and the half-time show was 30 minutes. There seemed to be more filler than there was game. Are the normal games any different?


It is roughly 12 minutes of game action in a 60 minute of game time game spread out over 3+ hours. It is the ideal TV talking head sport. Short action, lots of replays and chance for commentary on every play.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Flex » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:28 am

So the NFL sent up a trial balloon about banning academically ineligible players from attending the scouting combine. Is this a punitive action against players whose only goal is to make it to the NFL and have to go through the college system?
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:32 am

Not sure i see anything wrong with that.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Flex » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:57 am

Klaudandus wrote:Not sure i see anything wrong with that.


My issue stems from:
NCAA college football is basically the NFL's minor league due to bizarre draft eligibility rules.
A decent subset of players have the skill to play in the NFL but not the desire to go to college, and to be honest, some wouldn't have gone to college if not for their football skills in the first place.
It perpetuates the false culture of the student-athlete the NCAA wants to project but we both know the two biggest money makers in football and basketball is far from that ideal.
It'll further encourage "cooking the books" for star athletes.

If there was a better alternate route for these players to get to the NFL, and NBA (the D league is a joke), I'd have less of an issue.
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