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Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:33 am
by Klaudandus

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:49 am
by halabar
Klaudandus wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jets-release-tim-tebow-122822442.html

Tebow released


Thank God. I hope he gets a shot again, but with someone that will give him an actual chance. Look for him to sign a very incentive-laden contract.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:31 am
by Klaudandus
If not, ESPN can always hire him and partner him with Ray Lewis, and do a sunday morning special called The Sinner and The Saint, maybe even solve crime together as well.

*Hates Ray Lewis with the strength of a thousand suns

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:43 am
by Klaudandus
Some comments on Jason Collins coming out as gay:
- That makes him the third gay wizard, right behind gandalf and dumbledoore.
- I can't imagine the shame his family and loved ones are feeling; to have somebody so close to you humiliate you by openly admitting you're...a Washington Wizard.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:48 am
by halabar
Klaudandus wrote:If not, ESPN can always hire him and partner him with Ray Lewis, and do a sunday morning special called The Sinner and The Saint, maybe even solve crime together as well.

*Hates Ray Lewis with the strength of a thousand suns


Of course, the fact that he was cut after the draft means that he's got a lot harder chance of finding a gig, but the Jets would have tipped their hand in the draft, so...

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:50 am
by halabar
Klaudandus wrote:Some comments on Jason Collins coming out as gay:
- That makes him the third gay wizard, right behind gandalf and dumbledoore.
- I can't imagine the shame his family and loved ones are feeling; to have somebody so close to you humiliate you by openly admitting you're...a Washington Wizard.


Sigh.. going to be hearing about him for months now. Until an NFL player comes out..

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:08 am
by Klaudandus
halabar wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Some comments on Jason Collins coming out as gay:
- That makes him the third gay wizard, right behind gandalf and dumbledoore.
- I can't imagine the shame his family and loved ones are feeling; to have somebody so close to you humiliate you by openly admitting you're...a Washington Wizard.


Sigh.. going to be hearing about him for months now. Until an NFL player comes out..


I thought the comments were pretty funny.

Also, didnt they find this nfl player being really cuddly with this other guy in the bahamas?

Nttawwt

I know a bunch of peeps mistake me for gay/bi because i am very pro lgbt...

Even at work, when they crack some gay jokes, sometimes they imply im gay, so i just turned it up in them and say... Well, you didnt complain about me putting it up your ass last night, and things like that.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:27 am
by Flex
halabar wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Some comments on Jason Collins coming out as gay:
- That makes him the third gay wizard, right behind gandalf and dumbledoore.
- I can't imagine the shame his family and loved ones are feeling; to have somebody so close to you humiliate you by openly admitting you're...a Washington Wizard.


Sigh.. going to be hearing about him for months now. Until an NFL player comes out..


Not really. He's a bad basketball player with little to no time left in the league.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:18 am
by halabar
Flex wrote:
halabar wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Some comments on Jason Collins coming out as gay:
- That makes him the third gay wizard, right behind gandalf and dumbledoore.
- I can't imagine the shame his family and loved ones are feeling; to have somebody so close to you humiliate you by openly admitting you're...a Washington Wizard.


Sigh.. going to be hearing about him for months now. Until an NFL player comes out..


Not really. He's a bad basketball player with little to no time left in the league.


You underestimate the spin machine. Look for howls of protest if he doesn't get resigned. It's actually the ultimate get-another-two-year-deal card.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:29 am
by Flex
Only from idiots who don't understand how sports works. Which is also a reason why Tebow will never get a starting job, he's not a good quarterback.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:36 am
by Klaudandus
Flex wrote:Only from idiots who don't understand how sports works. Which is also a reason why Tebow will never get a starting job, he's not a good quarterback.


Perhaps, but he still has as many playoff wins as Tony Romo, which is something I love to use to egg on cowboys fans. =P

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:12 am
by Fenrìr
Klaudandus wrote:
Flex wrote:Only from idiots who don't understand how sports works. Which is also a reason why Tebow will never get a starting job, he's not a good quarterback.


Perhaps, but he still has as many playoff wins as Tony Romo, which is something I love to use to egg on cowboys fans. =P



The one thing I don't get about Tebow is that he was never that good of a QB. Sure, he did some good things with Uni of Florida, but when he passed the draft up and played another year, he really screwed himself. Now he's cut hoping some team picks him as a QB. I've always felt he should have gone as a half back or a tight end. Heck, he turned down options to try out at tight end.

I just don't see him getting any thing further out of his football career he has envisioned for himself.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:26 am
by Klaudandus

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:30 am
by halabar


And he expected to be the #1?

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:36 am
by Flex
No. Not said anywhere in the article that he expected to be the #1 pick. The closest was [quote]It is understandable for Smith to be disappointed about not being a first-round pick, but unless he was specifically being told by his agents that he would go No. 1, we're not sure how they are at fault for his tumble out of Round 1./quote]

ESPN did a 30 for 30 about Agents and it is not uncommon for players to fire agents for a better deal/better promises. We don't know what went on behind the scenes and what Geno was told by his Agent.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:44 am
by halabar
Flex wrote:No. Not said anywhere in the article that he expected to be the #1 pick. The closest was
It is understandable for Smith to be disappointed about not being a first-round pick, but unless he was specifically being told by his agents that he would go No. 1, we're not sure how they are at fault for his tumble out of Round 1./quote]

ESPN did a 30 for 30 about Agents and it is not uncommon for players to fire agents for a better deal/better promises. We don't know what went on behind the scenes and what Geno was told by his Agent.


According to Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News, Smith was under the impression that he should be and would be the No. 1 overall pick of the draft.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:39 pm
by Klaudandus
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--geno- ... 46651.html

Surprise! Turns out Geno Smith is a total headcase. I can't wait for summer camp and see the Jets QB drama!

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:45 pm
by Flex
Well the sources for the first part are obviously the fired agents so take their talking points with a huge dose of doubt.

Deadspin's rundown basically jives with my own gut feeling about it.

Also league executives talk shit about prospects all the time to talk their draft position down so they can sign them for less money when it is their time to pick.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:47 pm
by Chunes
Can I get an ELI5 on how the hell the NFL draft works?

They might as well by scrying the futures of these players from chicken viscera for all the sense it makes to me.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:54 pm
by Flex
Chunes wrote:Can I get an ELI5 on how the hell the NFL draft works?


1) Get picked like a slab of meat by a team you probably don't want to play for.
2) Hug Goddell.
3) Continue hugging.
4) Still hugging.
5) Why are we still hugging?
6) Smile like you're happy you got picked by the Browns.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:57 pm
by Shoju
Flex wrote:
Chunes wrote:Can I get an ELI5 on how the hell the NFL draft works?


1) Get picked like a slab of meat by a team you probably don't want to play for.
2) Hug Goddell.
3) Continue hugging.
4) Still hugging.
5) Why are we still hugging?
6) Smile like you're happy you got picked by the Browns.


Image

I'm sure that one guy int he 7th round from a DII school that baffled everyone was happy we picked him.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:05 pm
by Koatanga
He was happy because he was drafted, not because he was drafted by the Browns.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:08 pm
by Flex
Chunes wrote:Can I get an ELI5 on how the hell the NFL draft works?

They might as well by scrying the futures of these players from chicken viscera for all the sense it makes to me.


That's pretty much what it is.

Educated guessing based on college performance and interviews.

Players picked in round 1 and often times round 2 are expected to be starters in their rookie year, if they aren't it can be considered a bust. Rounds 3 and on are projects, players you use as backups and on special teams while they get groomed for replacing aged veterans. But you probably knew all of that so I'll leave this here. Mel Kiper sucks at draft rankings just like everyone else.

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:09 pm
by Chunes
Haha ok, so it's basically just subjective evaluation of how these kids are doing in college ball. How is it determined which team gets first pick? some kind of lotto?

Re: All about sports

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:19 pm
by Flex
Chunes wrote:Haha ok, so it's basically just subjective evaluation of how these kids are doing in college ball. How is it determined which team gets first pick? some kind of lotto?


Record and assorted tiebreakers if tied.

The way the NFL is set up a team can turn around from being very bad to being very good quickly through drafting and free agency. Unfortunately sometimes are seemingly cursed to always be bad.