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Re: All about sports

Postby Astronomic » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:22 am

So my friend had Schaub on the bench. 89.9 points right there. Least my Jaguars had a solid game for the first time in awhile.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:56 am

Pat Shurmur found a way to lose a game twice.

Weeden was efficient,
Richardson was bowling people over again
Greg Little has learned how to catch
We can dominate a half of football
We can have miracle throws with a minute left in regulation.
When our star CB is out of the Game, we play a guy that goes all Tonya Harding on the opponents WRs
When it's 3rd and 8 in OT, and the game is on the line, we will screen to the RB

God this team is killing me.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:34 am

The prolonged acts of ESPN to whore themselves to the SEC is making me nauseous.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Teranoid » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:43 am

I can't believe people still watch ESPN. It's an absolute joke.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:50 am

Teranoid wrote:I can't believe people still watch ESPN. It's an absolute joke.


I have no other option for sports related programming really. I normally check out other sites, but cruised over to ESPN to check my fantasy football team, and saw another SEC Poll on the front page. Other than that, I watch the games they have, and Mike and Mike before work.

My sports related channels.

STO (Sports Time Ohio) - Cleveland Indians Network. Does a lot of High School Stuff, but other than that, it's really Cleveland / Ohio Homers. You now, the guys trying to sell you that the Browns are getting better, and have a shot at 8-8 if they could just get lucky, or this terrible fucker named Bruce Drennen. He makes me seem like a "when I open my mouth, there is nothing but sunshine rainbows and lollipops" type of person. I swear, how that idiot has a show, is a mystery.

FSN (Fox Sports Ohio) - Not sure what they show anymore besides Cavs games and terrible (D grade) MMA. They lost the Indians Games when they got greedy.

NBC Sports - Do not have. Had it for a while, but now the channel just says "Not available"

CBS Sports - Do not have. I've heard that their network is up and running now, but I can't find it in the guide.
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Re: All about sports

Postby halabar » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:53 am

Shoju wrote:The prolonged acts of ESPN to whore themselves to the SEC is making me nauseous.


The outright cheering of the announcers of the Oregon-Stanford game for Alabama was pretty bad.
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Re: All about sports

Postby halabar » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:05 pm

Teranoid wrote:I can't believe people still watch ESPN. It's an absolute joke.


I only watch the stuff they put on broadcast TV (on ABC), and as mentioned above, the cheering for the SEC is pretty bad.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:16 pm

It was also pretty bad yesterday morning, I was watching Sunday Morning Countdown (I do like the NFL Coverage) and saw the scroll at the bottom had "Projected BCS Rankings by their expert" with Kansas State #5 and Oregon Not listed... I was floored. How in the world could you predict that K State, who got CURB KICKED by an unranked team would still be higher in the polls than Oregon, who losts to a ranked team in Overtime?

I know the Computers don't care about "style" but the voters still do.

Ugh... The fact that the winner of the SEC Champ game is going to play for the title is nauseating. I'm so tired of SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC 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Re: All about sports

Postby Koatanga » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:26 pm

I'm just glad my Seahawks managed to get what looks like a decent starting QB for a 3rd-round pick, or the NFL equivalent of pocket lint where QBs are concerned. Russell Wilson is really exciting to watch.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:34 pm

Koatanga wrote:I'm just glad my Seahawks managed to get what looks like a decent starting QB for a 3rd-round pick, or the NFL equivalent of pocket lint where QBs are concerned. Russell Wilson is really exciting to watch.



He looks to be a good find for Seattle.

I'm still torn on Wheelchair. His Comp% is low (55%), but he has dealt with more drops than any other QB in the league. How many of those were Receiver problems, isn't really a "good stat", but I do like the line "If you touch it, you catch it". He's not setting the world on fire with 2300 yards pass, but he is in the West Coast Offense, and the play calling has been.... suspect. He's at 11 TD / 12 INT, which isn't "AWFUL" for a rookie.

It's one less TD than RGIII (but 9 more INT's)
It's one less TD than Luck (who has the same amount of picks)
It's five more TD's than Tannehill (but 1 more pick)
It's four less than RW (but 4 more INT'S)

He has more yds than wilson (who has a more consistent running game)
and Tannehill
Less than Luck
and more than RGII

I don't know. I'm just tired of a loser for a team, and I'm just waiting on pins and needles for JHIII to make up his mind at this point. After the game yesterday though, it's hard to imagine him (Shurmur) staying.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Teranoid » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:51 pm

I stick to stuff like NFL/MLB network and blogs. ESPN has too many shitty biased reporters employed by them for my tastes.

Both of those channels have their homers (which makes sense because most of them are former players) but they're not talking out their ass 90% of the time.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Koatanga » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:28 pm

Shoju wrote:I'm still torn on Wheelchair. His Comp% is low (55%), but he has dealt with more drops than any other QB in the league.


From the perspective of a Seahawks fan, this is actually good news. Wilson has also had a lot of catchable passes dropped, which has cost us two games thus far (AZ and SF). I was concerned that it could be a real manifestation of the height thing.

I don't buy the "short QBs can't see" thing, because that would work both ways - tall QBs wouldn't be able to see short WRs like Steve Smith, particularly if the receiver is near the sideline due to the crown of the field.

But QBs use "throwing lanes" or they get the ball batted back in their face by defensive linesmen.

What I was concerned about is that maybe the receivers have trouble seeing the release of the ball, so it gives them less reaction time to catch the ball. But if a taller QB has more drops, maybe it's not a thing.

I remain convinced that the problem with short QBs is simply one of physics and leverage, which Wilson overcomes by having unusually long arms and large hands. The number of precision bombs I've seen this year suggests physics are not an issue.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Flex » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:05 pm

Teranoid wrote:I stick to stuff like NFL/MLB network and blogs. ESPN has too many shitty biased reporters employed by them for my tastes.

Both of those channels have their homers (which makes sense because most of them are former players) but they're not talking out their ass 90% of the time.


Deadspin and Awful Announcing had some good stuff about ESPN's fall from quality reporting to ratings reporting this past week, some good stuff.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Fridmarr » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:28 pm

Koatanga wrote:I don't buy the "short QBs can't see" thing, because that would work both ways - tall QBs wouldn't be able to see short WRs like Steve Smith, particularly if the receiver is near the sideline due to the crown of the field.

You lost me. In what way would a taller qb have less visibility? The bulk of the issue is seeing and throwing over the much taller linemen.

Wilson is athletic enough to compensate though. Sure he'll miss things occasionally because of his height but he has been able to offset by making plays from his other skills.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Koatanga » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:23 pm

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Koatanga wrote:I don't buy the "short QBs can't see" thing, because that would work both ways - tall QBs wouldn't be able to see short WRs like Steve Smith, particularly if the receiver is near the sideline due to the crown of the field.

You lost me. In what way would a taller qb have less visibility? The bulk of the issue is seeing and throwing over the much taller linemen.

Taller QBs wouldn't have less visibility than shorter QBs. I'm saying that a tall QB would have as much a problem seeing a short WR over the linemen as a short QB would have seeing a tall receiver.

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Then factor in the crown of the field. The middle of the field is 10"-16" higher than the sideline, making receivers there effectively 10"-16" shorter with regard to sight line calculations.

So if sight was really an issue, you would not expect a small receiver like Steve Smith to be very productive.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Fridmarr » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:17 pm

But the receivers aren't very close to the lineman, even on a shallow drag they are going to be a few yards up the field. The line is continually moving back towards the QB. If you can see over the line, you can pretty easily see anyone on the field. If you can't see over that line, then your sight stops at them so you have to shift around and find gaps to see anyone. There are also blocking techniques that lower the line's height for quick passes.

Basically, tall QBs can see everyone more often than a short QB, also a tall QB has an easier time throwing over the line than a short QB. That part is pretty obvious, but I don't think it's a big handicap for Wilson. He's got a knack for finding the openings he needs and the athletic ability to pull it off. Would he be better if he was 6-4 and just as mobile? Sure, but that doesn't mean he can't do the job at 5'11'' with his other skills being pretty good.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:59 am

Well, It's a hail mary this week on the waiver wire to try and save my season.

McGahee, Out
Gronk, Out

Both for what appears to be an extended period of time.

My backup TE is a joke (Brent Celek) in points, because neither Vick Nor Foles use him.
My spare RB is the Law Firm (BJGE), and he's been pretty inconsistent.

So now, I'm hoping that I can get the following 5 transactiosn completed.

1.) Drop B. Celek for V. Davis
2.) Drop Josh Gordon for Ronnie Hillman
3.) Drop Brandon Lloyd for T.Y. Hilton (A gamble. Kids been putting up good numbers. Might be helpful)
4.) Drop Stevie Johnson (what a freaking dissapointment) Add Cecil Shorts
5.) Defensive Carousel again! Bringing in the Panthers D for the week against the rookie QB Foles.

I'm just hoping that the waiver wire is kind to me this week. I put my claim in on Davis when I saw that Gronk had a broken arm monday night, so I'm hoping that no one else suffered an injury to a TE before monday night's game (I would be awarded him on time of claim)
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Re: All about sports

Postby Koatanga » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:54 pm

Really needed Chicago to step up and beat San Francisco. Now Chicago is a wild-card instead of a division leader, and my Seahawks don't hold a tie-breaker over them.

That makes the game in two weeks a Must Win, and it's an early start at Soldier Field. The Seahawks haven't been very good on the road this year, and historically have been dreadful in early games. We'll be coming off the NFL's longest road trip (Miami) as well.

New Orleans appears to have woken up, so a loss to Chicago would likely put the Bears and Saints in the wildcard spots, with Seattle on the outside looking in.
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Re: All about sports

Postby halabar » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:57 pm

Koatanga wrote:New Orleans appears to have woken up, so a loss to Chicago would likely put the Bears and Saints in the wildcard spots, with Seattle on the outside looking in.


That depends on when Cutler gets back, because they aren't winning without him.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:48 am

Well, I'm not going to call my Fantasy Football Season over, but.... my wife murdered me. We were watching the news together, and she saw that Gronk was hurt, and saw Mcgahee was hurt at the same time as me. What did she do? Did some homework, and claimed the guys I was going after. Since she is at 6-5, and I'm at 8-3, she got the claims, and I'm scrambling (seriously, I've made over my entire bench) to make it through these last two games.

I can't blame her, her division is quite tighter than mine, and if the playoffs started this week, she would be out, as the 2nd place team holds the tiebreakers against her. (same record) Her division is 7-4, 6-5, 6-5 (her), 5-6 (my son), 3-8. My division is 10-1, 8-3 (me), and then.... really bad from there.

I gotta say, Having your wife and son playing the same FF league as me is pretty cool, even when your wife steals your players.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:45 pm

Man... The Browns have hit an all time low. They are giving out White Flags to every fan in attendance at the Steelers game this Sunday. I'm not even joking.

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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:09 pm

so... they're now Le Cleveland Marrons?
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Re: All about sports

Postby Shoju » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:23 pm

I believe you misspelled Morons. Because from top to bottom, that's seemingly all they're full of.
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Re: All about sports

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:38 pm

was going for the french word for brown

maybe i should have gone with the french word for shit stain =P


Also
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--direc ... 35294.html
At a time when the NFL is so concerned about player safety, why does the league continue to have conversion kicks?

By this measure, parks should outlaw seesaws and slides because a 4 year old tumbled and scrapped its knee...
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Re: All about sports

Postby Fridmarr » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:58 pm

No kidding... I think doing away with PATs has merit because of the mechanics of it, but it's not a play where people are prone to injury, so lumping it in as a safety thing is pretty dubious. His system of making a team have to attempt them when their kicker gets injured is absurd.

You can certainly make PATs a much more compelling part of the game without removing them. Plus the ability to go for two is a great twist that should be kept. Move it back to like 35 yards or something along those lines, and then it gets a bit more interesting.

According to some officials the league would have done away with kickoffs altogether if they could come up with some equivalent mechanic to the onsides kick.
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