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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Brekkie » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:57 am

Invisusira wrote:First two episodes have been a bit boring. Not much happening, and the sex/nudity is more "oh yeah this is HBO by the way" than it was in season one. Not to mention the whole "wait that's who? and he's related to which guy? wait who is this one" is STILL going on.

Here's hoping the story picks up a bit.

I agree. I think a big part of it is that we spent the entire first season with NO IDEA who the hell Theon Greyjoy was. That's starting to get resolved though. Plus the actor who plays him looks quite a bit like Rob Stark, and since the two always appeared together I always got them confused.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:48 am

Really? Theon always looked rather mousey...
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Nikachelle » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:10 am

The whore on the ship... her boobs were horrifying. Just saying.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Brekkie » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:44 pm

I was more distracted by her teeth.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Thalia » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:31 pm

Brekkie wrote:I was more distracted by her teeth.


"close your mouth when you smile"
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Cema » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:05 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:The nudity and sex is beginning to seem a little too gratuitous, IMO.


Agree

Too much fan service
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Brekkie » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:18 am

Nikachelle wrote:The whore on the ship... her boobs were horrifying. Just saying.


And she wasn't a whore. He didn't pay her. :-P
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Fenrìr » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:04 am

Finally sat down to watch it last night. The sex was a bit more than I was expecting.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Sagara » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:38 am

I saw the first couple episodes with my wife, only knowing it was based on some medfan book series and it was rather good.
Let's say it was awkward towards the wedding scene... Not EXACTLY what we expected XD
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Hokahey » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:02 am

I think its been really well done so far. The first 3 to 4 episodes of a season are usually more about building tension and establishing roles, so its to be expected that they're a bit slower paced. Also, they're introducing more characters, some of whom were never even mentioned in the previous season.

The big stuff is going to happen in the last 2 to 3 episodes, with a cliffhanger to keep us interested in seeing the next season.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Fenrìr » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:28 am

Hokahey wrote:I think its been really well done so far. The first 3 to 4 episodes of a season are usually more about building tension and establishing roles, so its to be expected that they're a bit slower paced. Also, they're introducing more characters, some of whom were never even mentioned in the previous season.

The big stuff is going to happen in the last 2 to 3 episodes, with a cliffhanger to keep us interested in seeing the next season.



Thanks for describing what all on-going seasons do.




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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Hokahey » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:25 pm

Fenrìr wrote:
Hokahey wrote:I think its been really well done so far. The first 3 to 4 episodes of a season are usually more about building tension and establishing roles, so its to be expected that they're a bit slower paced. Also, they're introducing more characters, some of whom were never even mentioned in the previous season.

The big stuff is going to happen in the last 2 to 3 episodes, with a cliffhanger to keep us interested in seeing the next season.



Thanks for describing what all on-going seasons do.




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Thanks for identifying what I was doing.

On topic, I was sincerely impressed with how well they "butched-up" the actress playing Brienne.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Epimer » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:02 am

I thought the perspective tricks to make her seem taller were really poorly done.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby econ21 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:01 am

Epimer wrote:I thought the perspective tricks to make her seem taller were really poorly done.


At the risk of you thanking me for pointing out that tall women are tall:

http://thetallwomen.blogspot.co.uk/2012 ... istie.html
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Re: Game of Thrones

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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Epimer » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:33 pm

econ21 wrote:At the risk of you thanking me for pointing out that tall women are tall:

http://thetallwomen.blogspot.co.uk/2012 ... istie.html


Wow, ok, there's an actual 10" difference in height between her and Michelle Fairley, then. Fair enough.

I was thinking of the scene where they're both walking uphill in Renly's camp. Catelyn is always a reasonable distance behind Brienne and their feet are always out of shot - it just looked like a really clumsy attempt to make Brienne look significantly taller than Catelyn (and maybe it was!) but maybe I'm just being overly critical.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Nikachelle » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:00 pm

I thought the same at first as well. It wasn't till Invis looked her up after the episode that we both realized that she was actually that tall.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Cogglamp » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:18 am

Finally able to watch it last night (episode 3). I think I'm enjoying this season more than the first so far. Lots of tension/build up and they're doing a good job at showing the true colors of that brat Joffrey. Good stuff.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:09 pm

It always breaks my brain when people stand around and watch their "leader" be insane. Especially here -- it's not like there isn't immediate precedent for someone stepping up and killing the goddamn Mad King.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Hokahey » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:18 am

fuzzygeek wrote:It always breaks my brain when people stand around and watch their "leader" be insane. Especially here -- it's not like there isn't immediate precedent for someone stepping up and killing the goddamn Mad King.


Right, but that only took place when it was clear that he was going to die anyways. Hence why "the Kingslayer" gets so little respect from those who fought against the Mad King- he only did it when it was completely safe to do so. Prior to that, there was plenty of insane and horrible things going on, but no one who might have had the chance stepped up to the plate (well, so far as I know) until Robert Baratheon's rebellion had pretty much already won the war. In a way, it makes what he did even worse since all he accomplished was deny Robert Baratheon and Eddard Stark the oppurtunity to kill Targaryen themselves.

Plenty of real life precedent for this, as well. For example, plenty in the upper echelons of the German military had nothing but disdain for Hitler and his policies, but few ever tried to do anything about it, and of those that did, they got screwed by their peers who were too afraid of what would happen to them if an attempt at assassination and/or coup failed.

Fear is a very effective tool in retaining a position of power (at least for a while).

Edit-Also, the chracters in the series have an even more recent example of what will happen when an attempt to remove the king fails.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:35 am

This episode marks the biggest departures from the books so far, but it's done in a way that works. More about compressing the story and getting a bit more interaction between actors who were kept apart (Petyr acting as diplomat in the south was not shown in the books and happened later in the plot) than actually changing anything substantial to the story.

The Joffrey scene was new, but it worked. This behaviour of his doesn't show up in public all that often - the scene in court was a departure, because in the books he abuses Sansa when only the Kingsguard are around to see; he acts civil in public, most of the time. Usually the only people who see him acting that way are his family, Sansa, and the Kingsguard, and none of those are likely to do anything about it.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby alayire » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:21 am

Hokahey wrote:
fuzzygeek wrote:It always breaks my brain when people stand around and watch their "leader" be insane. Especially here -- it's not like there isn't immediate precedent for someone stepping up and killing the goddamn Mad King.


Right, but that only took place when it was clear that he was going to die anyways. Hence why "the Kingslayer" gets so little respect from those who fought against the Mad King- he only did it when it was completely safe to do so. Prior to that, there was plenty of insane and horrible things going on, but no one who might have had the chance stepped up to the plate (well, so far as I know) until Robert Baratheon's rebellion had pretty much already won the war. In a way, it makes what he did even worse since all he accomplished was deny Robert Baratheon and Eddard Stark the oppurtunity to kill Targaryen themselves.

Plenty of real life precedent for this, as well. For example, plenty in the upper echelons of the German military had nothing but disdain for Hitler and his policies, but few ever tried to do anything about it, and of those that did, they got screwed by their peers who were too afraid of what would happen to them if an attempt at assassination and/or coup failed.

Fear is a very effective tool in retaining a position of power (at least for a while).

Edit-Also, the chracters in the series have an even more recent example of what will happen when an attempt to remove the king fails.
I don't want to turn this into something else that it's not but .. your example of Hitler and German military is not exactly on the spot. the SS certainly knew about it, the Army itself was for the most part in the dark, because the SS was not part of the Army. Maybe they heard rumors about the genocides, maybe they had some knowledge about it, yes, but it's not like they witnessed it first hand and did nothing about it. The German Army officers for the most part were noblemen and quite civil. Hitler only started on berating and flailing and showing his true colors to the Army when they started losing in the East front. And it's not like they didn't try to save the country, they did and failed to kill Hitler. that failed attempt only fueled his madness. And it's not like Hitler was like that from the begging(he saved them from a depression and pulled the country back from brink of disaster way before the war). there is much more to say about it, but I don't want to turn this into something not about Game of Thrones.

anyway .. KysenMurrin said it better, only few people knew about them actually turning mad. it's hard to justify such actions to the public, when they do not see the same man you know. It's true however that in the movie Joffrey only seems to be this spoiled brat and acting mad, there is no real scene in which he acts as a real king for his people, maybe that's why we get this impression that he's mad( just to note, I had the same impression, haven't read the books ).
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:40 am

Oh, Joffrey's still pretty bad in the books (he uses a crowd of peasants protesting about lack of food as crossbow practice at one point*), but he didn't do stupid things like have his fiancee beaten in front of the whole court.

*I hope this scene will appear in the series, because it establishes context for another big event that should be happening soon.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby econ21 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:13 am

fuzzygeek wrote:It always breaks my brain when people stand around and watch their "leader" be insane. Especially here -- it's not like there isn't immediate precedent for someone stepping up and killing the goddamn Mad King.


It takes time to organise a rebellion or coup. However, almost the whole story of this season and the next few books are the different people not standing around but trying to get rid of their awful new leader. Even among the Laninsters, Tyrion is restraining Joffrey - in this very scene - presumably with the implicit support of Tywin. Cersei herself seems uneasy about the extremes Joffrey is going to, but has lost her grip over him.

Bear in mind that Joffrey is young, only just coming into maturity and as such inevitably something of an unknown commodity to most people. Rather than Hitler, I think a closer historical analogy is with Caligula.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby fuzzygeek » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:57 am

KysenMurrin wrote:The Joffrey scene was new, but it worked. This behaviour of his doesn't show up in public all that often - the scene in court was a departure, because in the books he abuses Sansa when only the Kingsguard are around to see; he acts civil in public, most of the time. Usually the only people who see him acting that way are his family, Sansa, and the Kingsguard, and none of those are likely to do anything about it.


This makes a lot more sense. I'd read the first two books when they came out (1999? 2000?), so don't remember a lot of particulars. I'm waiting for the series to be finished before reading, so I don't know what in the fuck we're doing watching the goddamn thing. Maybe because it's fricking everywhere in the geekosphere.

Lord Shithead seems to always be fondling his crossbow, so I imagine they're setting up for shooting peasants. Also, the spoiler avoidance is much appreciated.

I don't remember the last time I enjoyed a character as much as I'm enjoying Tyrion.
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