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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Aerron » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:57 am

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The Hound's casting bothers me. Other than that, and Cat being a bit old, the rest of the cast was spot on.


I thought Catelyn was cast perfectly, but ok.


I thought she played the role well, but she just seemed older than I would have pictured her. That said, they bumped everyone's age up by at least 2 years so that some of the other scenes would be palatable to a general audience, so it's not that big of a deal.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby d503 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:01 am

Klaudandus wrote:If a character is played by Sean Bean, you know he's gonna die.

*scurries*


If that's a book spoiler, please stop doing it...there will inevitably be some new fans that come about as a result of this series (I am one of them) who are in process of reading the books, etc. I'm sure we'd rather not be spoiled on main plot points in the books :(

If it's a joke, cheers, I chuckled :)
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:04 am

Never read the book actually, so I don't know. In fact, didn't even get to watch it on Sunday -- gonna download it once I get home.

But I can't remember a character that Sean Bean has portrayed that has not died or been removed from the plot before the end of the movie.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby thatguy » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:38 am

Watched it. Enjoyed it. Will be anxiously awaiting the next installment.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Gabe » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:57 am

cerwillis wrote:
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Gabe wrote:I suppose it felt a bit too much like a play; the stage is set, people walk onto it and do their stuff and then walk away, like they're doing a scene. A good example was the when Rob and Ed were walking in the catacombs. First they walk in one direction, then stop to chat and finally turn around and go back the way they came.


iirc they were going to go pay respects to Ned's sister.

Yeah, I mean, how many catacombs have a front and back door? They went in, Robert paid his respects to the sister, whined a bit, and then made his proposal to Ned, they then exited, I don't see the problem.


Except the scene where they pay their respects to Lyanna was after the scene with the U-turn.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby d503 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:02 pm

Gabe wrote:Except the scene where they pay their respects to Lyanna was after the scene with the U-turn.


If you're watching the series to be a word-for-word depiction of scenes from the book to the screen, maybe you should just go re-read the book, 'cause you're not going to find that in any adaptation of any book to screen.

Pacing in books is dramatically different to pacing in movies/series. What is important to the reader is not necessarily important to the viewer.

Not having this as an expectation just leads to disappointment.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:05 pm

Aerron wrote:That said, they bumped everyone's age up by at least 2 years so that some of the other scenes would be palatable to a general audience, so it's not that big of a deal.

Yeah, I just started rereading the book and Bran is 7, Jon Snow is 14, etc... TV show Sansa is apparently a late bloomer... (Haven't reached Sansa in the book yet, but she was only about 13 by the third/fourth book iirc.)
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Sabindeus » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:16 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:
Aerron wrote:That said, they bumped everyone's age up by at least 2 years so that some of the other scenes would be palatable to a general audience, so it's not that big of a deal.

Yeah, I just started rereading the book and Bran is 7, Jon Snow is 14, etc... TV show Sansa is apparently a late bloomer... (Haven't reached Sansa in the book yet, but she was only about 13 by the third/fourth book iirc.)


Just in terms of finding viable actors for everyone, the age increases do not bother me even a little.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Aerron » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:17 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:
Aerron wrote:That said, they bumped everyone's age up by at least 2 years so that some of the other scenes would be palatable to a general audience, so it's not that big of a deal.

Yeah, I just started rereading the book and Bran is 7, Jon Snow is 14, etc... TV show Sansa is apparently a late bloomer... (Haven't reached Sansa in the book yet, but she was only about 13 by the third/fourth book iirc.)


Right, and in the show they make it a point to mention of Bran being 10. So if you add 3 onto about everybody, you'd probably be in the right range.

I think Sansa starts off as 12 in Game of Thrones, and by Storm of Swords she's supposed to be fourteen. So you're looking at a 15 to 17 range?
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby d503 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:18 pm

Sabindeus wrote:
KysenMurrin wrote:
Aerron wrote:That said, they bumped everyone's age up by at least 2 years so that some of the other scenes would be palatable to a general audience, so it's not that big of a deal.

Yeah, I just started rereading the book and Bran is 7, Jon Snow is 14, etc... TV show Sansa is apparently a late bloomer... (Haven't reached Sansa in the book yet, but she was only about 13 by the third/fourth book iirc.)


Just in terms of finding viable actors for everyone, the age increases do not bother me even a little.


Yeah, I'd rather fudge an age by two years than have a shitty "anakin."
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Sabindeus » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:19 pm

that having been said, I really like the kid playing Bran. What little I've seen of him really nails it imo.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Aerron » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:20 pm

d503 wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:Just in terms of finding viable actors for everyone, the age increases do not bother me even a little.


Yeah, I'd rather fudge an age by two years than have a shitty "anakin."


Well, I think the concern was more that some of those characters have scenes that a general TV audience, even an HBO one, might have issues coming to grips with.

I'd make a comment about murderous children not being give a second thought, but any more detail than that might border on spoilerish.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby d503 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:24 pm

Aerron wrote:
d503 wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:but any more detail than that might border on spoilerish.

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Re: Game of Thrones

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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:34 pm

Speaking of the children and ages, it was noticed elsewhere that Rickon, the youngest Stark (2-3 ish?) has not made an appearance in the show.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Aerron » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:47 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:Speaking of the children and ages, it was noticed elsewhere that Rickon, the youngest Stark (2-3 ish?) has not made an appearance in the show.


Actually, I remember seeing him in one scene, wherein he only laughs and gets no lines. But there were a lot of characters that were difficult to recognize. Most of the group I watched with didn't recognize the (helmetless) Hound, until I pointed out the "weird hair-do on that one dude" was actually supposed to be part of his burns.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:11 pm

Yeah, I noticed the Hound in his helmet when they first arrived, and then a brief look at him without later - his scars seem to cover a lot less of his face than I expected.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Sabindeus » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:23 pm

Jason Momoa as Khal Drogo was ftw
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Gabe » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:14 pm

d503 wrote:
Gabe wrote:Except the scene where they pay their respects to Lyanna was after the scene with the U-turn.


If you're watching the series to be a word-for-word depiction of scenes from the book to the screen, maybe you should just go re-read the book, 'cause you're not going to find that in any adaptation of any book to screen.

Pacing in books is dramatically different to pacing in movies/series. What is important to the reader is not necessarily important to the viewer.

Not having this as an expectation just leads to disappointment.


Yeah, I... *Sigh* If you read my original post you find that it was hardly my point that they didn't do turnabouts in the books.

It was that something about the direction of the show made it feel play-like, that I felt like I was watching people play the characters rather than the actual characters acting. Not fault of the actors, I think, but something in how they set up the scenes and the angles they shot the thing in. Maybe that's just me being overly used to the nowadays ubiquitous method of using "realistic", shaky handcam type of camerawork or maybe I'm just too stuck to my images of the characters, as you suggest.

So the reason why I brought up the scene was to give an example of a situation in the series that made me feel that way. Something like that just drops me right out of an experience. Not a big minus, and by the looks of it something I was in the minority in.

Pacing being a bit off is a different issue and, as I already mentioned, is an unavoidable problem with a TV adaptation and thus can't be held against the series.

Anyway dragging on for too long, apologies. Have to get that last word, or words in. :D

My biggest positive surprise of the cast was the guy they chose to play Jaime. It sort of feels like he's in a different kind of a series from the rest of the characters, which fits Jaime perfectly.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Sabindeus » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:44 pm

Gabe wrote:It was that something about the direction of the show made it feel play-like, that I felt like I was watching people play the characters rather than the actual characters acting. Not fault of the actors, I think, but something in how they set up the scenes and the angles they shot the thing in. Maybe that's just me being overly used to the nowadays ubiquitous method of using "realistic", shaky handcam type of camerawork or maybe I'm just too stuck to my images of the characters, as you suggest.

ugh... camera shake is terrible, I'm sick of it.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Gabe » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:05 pm

Sabindeus wrote:ugh... camera shake is terrible, I'm sick of it.


Not too found of it either. Just used to it.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Hamuga » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:42 pm

Hi, long time lurker, had to sign up for this thread.

Rickon is in the show, he looks like he is 7 years old or so.
Sansa said she was 13 when the queen asked.

I really liked the show it felt like a really good adaption to the books.
My wife likes the show but said it felt too rushed.
I think it will slow down a tad in a few episodes after people get hooked to the concept. At the same time they have a lot of info to squeeze into a handful of episodes.

HBO agreed to sign on for a second season, so it must be doing well ratings wise.

If you are reading the books, keep reading, they are amazing.
Book 5 is "set" to come out in June, but he has already missed the due date a bunch of times, so we will have to wait and see.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby sapientialb » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:12 pm

I was surprised at the relatively slow start (for an hour long episode format) even though the books start that way. Oftentimes TV and movie adaptations of books start with something action packed to grab the attention of their ADD viewers.

Its been forever since I read it, so going back through now and on book two. It'll be interesting to see how HBO treats some of the more grotesque scenes. Looking forward to seeing if they can make a certain main character's trek up a mountain to see his/her sister "feel" like it did in the book.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby cerwillis » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:28 pm

FYI folks:
Book 5: A Dance With Dragons - Available July 12, 2011
More than excited here. /changepants
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Mannstein » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:04 pm

Hamuga wrote:
HBO agreed to sign on for a second season, so it must be doing well ratings wise.

If you are reading the books, keep reading, they are amazing.
Book 5 is "set" to come out in June, but he has already missed the due date a bunch of times, so we will have to wait and see.


Trying not to derail but, am i the only one that thought that on fourth book, he completly lost the plot\story\any quality?
C'mon, iirc it was very bad, honestly i just wanted to end, and when it ended, i place it on the special "never to reread/worst book ever" shelf?
(disclamer: Loved the other ones and can't wait for the series)
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