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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:41 pm

You can with fishing. The sealed crates drop them occasionally.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:42 am

Skye1013 wrote:You can with fishing. The sealed crates drop them occasionally.


But not consistently enough to be a system to get them. I've gotten trillium ore once, not going to depend on those for a source of ore.

Best source is still killing higher level stuff.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Skye1013 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:32 pm

Might not be quick, but it's still doable ;). And if you're a big fan of fishing, but not killing things, then it sounds like a win to me.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:15 am

Skye1013 wrote:Might not be quick, but it's still doable ;). And if you're a big fan of fishing, but not killing things, then it sounds like a win to me.


Considering you can get 16 motes a day from the farm, getting 2 motes a week from fishing is hardly worthwhile, especially given the better drop rate in just killing stuff.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Teranoid » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:52 am

So is the shuffle even worth it in MoP? I'm sitting on a giant amount of lesser gems and I'm debating whether or not it's just better to take the risk in getting perfect gems or just make them into rings and whatnot.

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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:36 am

Teranoid wrote:So is the shuffle even worth it in MoP? I'm sitting on a giant amount of lesser gems and I'm debating whether or not it's just better to take the risk in getting perfect gems or just make them into rings and whatnot.


Too early to tell. Not enough sockets yet, and the rate of gearing has been slowed due to the new LFR loot system. I've sold some perfect gems, but the rings and whatnot sell SLOWLY.

However, what seems to be happening, at least on my server, is we are battling mature economies. Not a lot of room for major moves.

The other issue is the new dailies, which mean that people are spending a lot more time on mains, and a lot less time on alts, which result in less demand for a lot of stuff. A lot of alts are getting mothballed.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Teranoid » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:48 am

I was thinking more of just DE'ing the rings. All I know is sitting on 200+ of every lesser gem is annoying and eating away at my already limited bank space.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby sahiel » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:47 am

I've actually had great success selling the rare rings for 250-400g depending on the suffix, I suspect it all depends on how many people level alts on your server. Mine has very little raiding and such Horde side, so people tend to spend a lot of time gearing and leveling alts, which has led to a very healthy state of sales for both the Cata and MoP rare rings/necks from JCing.

The shuffle is alive and well, it just ignores perfect cuts on most realms as the jewellry gives a far better rate of return. Ghost Iron > Prospect > Cut/sell rares > craft uncommons into JC gear > sell rares > DE uncommons > sell scrolls.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Holyblaze » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:45 pm

sahiel wrote:I've actually had great success selling the rare rings for 250-400g depending on the suffix, I suspect it all depends on how many people level alts on your server. Mine has very little raiding and such Horde side, so people tend to spend a lot of time gearing and leveling alts, which has led to a very healthy state of sales for both the Cata and MoP rare rings/necks from JCing.

The shuffle is alive and well, it just ignores perfect cuts on most realms as the jewellry gives a far better rate of return. Ghost Iron > Prospect > Cut/sell rares > craft uncommons into JC gear > sell rares > DE uncommons > sell scrolls.



This...100% this.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:37 pm

Holyblaze wrote:
sahiel wrote:I've actually had great success selling the rare rings for 250-400g depending on the suffix, I suspect it all depends on how many people level alts on your server. Mine has very little raiding and such Horde side, so people tend to spend a lot of time gearing and leveling alts, which has led to a very healthy state of sales for both the Cata and MoP rare rings/necks from JCing.

The shuffle is alive and well, it just ignores perfect cuts on most realms as the jewellry gives a far better rate of return. Ghost Iron > Prospect > Cut/sell rares > craft uncommons into JC gear > sell rares > DE uncommons > sell scrolls.



This...100% this.


Hasn't worked as well on my server, what has been working better is DEing the cloth and leather items, for those that can craft them.

In other news, the best shuffle still might be the cooking mats.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Skye1013 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:26 pm

Gems are tanked on my server. We're talking ~50g for Bold/Brilliant/Delicate. Primals are all below 1k (many for MUCH less.) I kind of wonder if that's Blizz's intention... prevent people from building up massive stockpiles of gold while funneling a lot of it out with the BMAH/mounts/etc.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Teranoid » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:55 am

The enchanting mats seem to be working.. sold a couple of the rare crafted rings as well. Anything is better than them rotting I suppose.

Cut gems if they aren't pvp related seem to not be worth shit on Stormreaver sooo.. guess I'll just try and roll them into JC mounts.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:04 am

Teranoid wrote:The enchanting mats seem to be working.. sold a couple of the rare crafted rings as well. Anything is better than them rotting I suppose.

Cut gems if they aren't pvp related seem to not be worth shit on Stormreaver sooo.. guess I'll just try and roll them into JC mounts.


I think part of it may also be people are still trying to figure out what cuts to use. Some of the PVP ones that I'm trying to unload from the discovery process are down to 5G or so (that's 5G for rare gems). The good red cuts still aren't over 200G. Metas are in the 1,000-1,500 range depending on the cut.

But the gem prices (and the sales) have been slow enough with too many players that I've been making my gold elsewhere. Enchanting is busy too, too many campers to make many sales.

With all the dailies and rep needs, I don't have the time to properly manage my markets.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Holyblaze » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:46 am

Yeah...the JC gem market is shit I have to say. The rings are still selling good @300-500g (Compare that to the lame ass 5-40g for a rare cut)and Trns the Primal Meta has been a great boon for me as well. THough I am sad to say that even those are down to 600g now :(
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby oldboyz » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:56 am

i confirm same situation on my serveur : so small margin on all markets now... (i made some good margin previous week on gemm 300+, glyph 200+, meta 2000, JC ring, but very very low volume)

no time IG to try to better control the AH (thanks to PITA dailies and my 3 lv90 to manage)

look like the best way to make the most gold these days is to do it the old way : simply farm herb&ore all day long
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Flex » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:30 am

Ghost Iron to Trillium transmutes had a good rate of return, 60 gold for 20 ghost iron ore and 120ish gold for one trillium bar, but now people are cratering the cost of Trillium.

Got a couple x5 transmute procs on Trillium and made a quick 1300 gold.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:19 am

Flex wrote:Ghost Iron to Trillium transmutes had a good rate of return, 60 gold for 20 ghost iron ore and 120ish gold for one trillium bar, but now people are cratering the cost of Trillium.

Got a couple x5 transmute procs on Trillium and made a quick 1300 gold.


Hmm... need to do some analysis of the current prices, and see where the sweet spots are. Living Steel is not great as there are too many alchemists, but there might be middle options that work out.

Likely need to monitor AH for botter ore.. no time to mine it myself.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:58 am

Need to pick a new profession for my soon-to-be-90 shammy to replace skinning (the leather market has cratered, with exotic down to under 1G last night).

I'm leaning towards JC, as I don't have a JCer that can reliably get the new meta patterns. My 90s are tailor/scribe, eng/miner and the shammy that is alch/skinner.

My 85s (that will all likely remain 85) are 2 JC, 3 Alch, Ench, Herb, Scribe.

No way am I doing LW, Eng, BS from scratch, so that leaves JC, Scribe, Herb and Enchant as options for the Shammy.. thoughts?
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:48 pm

Note on the BMAH, seen the first auctions that are going for longer than 24 hours, one being a 483 gun I'm bidding on.

Also, Ashes of Alar is up now, with bidding at 200k this morning when I checked, with at least 12 hours to go.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby sahiel » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:00 pm

halabar wrote:Also, Ashes of Alar is up now, with bidding at 200k this morning when I checked, with at least 12 hours to go.

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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:05 pm

sahiel wrote:
halabar wrote:Also, Ashes of Alar is up now, with bidding at 200k this morning when I checked, with at least 12 hours to go.

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Just leave my gun alone... :D
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby sahiel » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:41 pm

halabar wrote:
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halabar wrote:Also, Ashes of Alar is up now, with bidding at 200k this morning when I checked, with at least 12 hours to go.

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Just leave my gun alone... :D

Heh you're welcome to it, I swear it's the *only* thing that's been up on my realm, I've seen 4 normal ones and 2 heroic ones at *least*, it's up every few days, really weird.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:29 am

sahiel wrote:
halabar wrote:
sahiel wrote:Just leave my gun alone... :D

Heh you're welcome to it, I swear it's the *only* thing that's been up on my realm, I've seen 4 normal ones and 2 heroic ones at *least*, it's up every few days, really weird.


First gun I've seen. Won it, paid a but much but considering the annoyance of LFR end bosses, it's worth it for a non-raiding toon.

Didn't see what the mount went for, got home too late. Interesting that the gun was 48 hours (or 36?) but the mount was 24.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Skye1013 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:54 pm

I'd love to see a graph showing the amount of player held gold throughout the xpac. I'm wondering if the BMAH is sucking out more than dailies and such are generating. If so, it's possible that 10k minimums will eventually be too high.

Makes me also wonder if Blizz would change the starting bids or maybe introduce some sort of dynamic system that bases it on player gold (kind of like how vendors work in FFXI.)
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:41 am

Skye1013 wrote:I'd love to see a graph showing the amount of player held gold throughout the xpac. I'm wondering if the BMAH is sucking out more than dailies and such are generating. If so, it's possible that 10k minimums will eventually be too high.


Nope, mainly because they aren't serving up enough items of interest to make a goblin go broke. Even with the high-price rare mounts, there's on or so on a server every 2-3 weeks.. that's not going to drain the gold.

The thing that might actually happen is that the BMAH wakes up goblins that had been on the fence due to nothing to spend their gold on. Now that some items are available, they may get back in the game.

Blizz does need to look at some of the starting bids though, mainly the rare pets. The rare pet market on my server has crashed, most rares sell for under 1k, so who is going to pay 10k at the BMAH?
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